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  • @kosar_for_president said:

    True Grit, minute 4:00

    "I can listen to my headphones if you need me to listen to my headphones" - Jay Cutler.

    @kosar_for_president said:

    "I can listen to my headphones if you need me to listen to my headphones" - Jay Cutler.

    What an excellent video. If that doesn't get you fired up then you need new double A's in your pacemaker

  • @speedyd900rr said:

    Would you try it for 20 Million dollars though?

    I'm sure if his $20 MIL depended strictly on playing hurt for that one game, then Cutler would have played. But since his contract is for more than just one game, and he will get payed regardless if he played or not, and the rest of his career could have been shortened or even ended by playing further on that knee, I think Cutler made the right move.

    @lcdawgfan13 said:

    I'm sure if his $20 MIL depended strictly on playing hurt for that one game, then Cutler would have played. But since his contract is for more than just one game, and he will get payed regardless if he played or not, and the rest of his career could have been shortened or even ended by playing further on that knee, I think Cutler made the right move.

    Who the fook cares about the money. His team needed him and he was not there. If you've played organized sports, you may have, you would understand.

  • @next2nothing said:

    This x 1,000!

    I couldn't imagine trying to go out and compete in an NFL type atmosphere with any type of ligament tear.

    Would you try it for 20 Million dollars though?

    @speedyd900rr said:

    Would you try it for 20 Million dollars though?

    If you know you can't perform, being a team player means you don't go out there and give your team a better chance to win.

  • @lcdawgfan13 said:

    I'm sure if his $20 MIL depended strictly on playing hurt for that one game, then Cutler would have played. But since his contract is for more than just one game, and he will get payed regardless if he played or not, and the rest of his career could have been shortened or even ended by playing further on that knee, I think Cutler made the right move.

    Who the fook cares about the money. His team needed him and he was not there. If you've played organized sports, you may have, you would understand.

    @kosar_for_president said:

    Who the fook cares about the money. His team needed him and he was not there. If you've played organized sports, you may have, you would understand.

    His team needed him out there if he was healthy, he was not. He would have been a detriment. He tried to come back in and couldn't. I'm pretty sure that you are just arguing for the sake of arguing because no one can be a dense as you are portraying right now.

  • Awesome video. Thanks.

  • According to Saints fullback Heath Evans, Brees played “six weeks with a torn MCL’’ in his left knee, referring to a medial collateral ligament. Zing.

    @kosar_for_president said:

    According to Saints fullback Heath Evans, Brees played “six weeks with a torn MCL’’ in his left knee, referring to a medial collateral ligament. Zing.

    It should be noted that Evans made a similar reference to Brees’ injured status for a story published by USA Today in December but did not cite the extent of the knee injury.

    Saints right tackle Jon Stinchcomb acknowledged Monday that he was not privy to the extent of Brees' knee injury, only that the quarterback was playing on a bum knee.

    "It wasn't a mystery that his knee was bothering him and he was wearinjg a brace for a few weeks,'' Stinchcomb told NewOrleans.Com on Monday. "Drew was able to play through it. He's a tough guy. In no way am I saying that he's tough and Jay Cutler is not. I don't want to make that comparison. I've never played with Jay nor am I condemning the fact that he left the game yesterday.

    "But we were aware about Drew's knee. But it's not our position to speak on another player's injury.''

    Brees injured his left knee during the fourth quarter of his team's 27-24 loss in OT to the Falcons on Sept. 26, then showed up the next week in practice wearing a brace on his left knee. He also played with a brace on the injured knee in subsequent games.

    In his Monday press conference following the Falcons’ game, Saints Coach Sean Payton said Brees merely experienced a bruise and some soreness in his injured knee. Despite that acknowledgement and Brees wearing a knee brace, the quarterback was not listed on the league’s injury report leading up to the Carolina Panthers game the next week.

    It was widely reported that an MRI revealed no structural damage based on information provided during team-related press conferences.

    “There’s no situation,’’ Payton said days before the Panthers game. “His knee is sore from the game. There’s no specific injury other than he’s got soreness. We didn’t put him on the injury report. He took all the reps. There’s not an injury to report.''

    In early November, citing unnamed sources, WIST-690 am reported Brees had been playing with a “fractured’’ left knee and torn meniscus and would have to undergo micro-fracture surgery at season’s end. Payton denied the report, labeling it “inaccurate, completely false.’’

    Zing indeed.

  • @kosar_for_president said:

    Who the fook cares about the money. His team needed him and he was not there. If you've played organized sports, you may have, you would understand.

    His team needed him out there if he was healthy, he was not. He would have been a detriment. He tried to come back in and couldn't. I'm pretty sure that you are just arguing for the sake of arguing because no one can be a dense as you are portraying right now.

    @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    His team needed him out there if he was healthy, he was not. He would have been a detriment. He tried to come back in and couldn't. I'm pretty sure that you are just arguing for the sake of arguing because no one can be a dense as you are portraying right now.

    OK you win. You've proven you are as big a pussy as Cutler.

  • Just a side note, not taking sides.

    A fresh injury such as an MCL is a whole lot different to play on than an injury that has had time to settle down. I've had knee injuries and surgeries my whole life, so I know a thing or two about it. A freshly injured knee is inflamed and has absolutely no stability, not to mention can be very painful just by shifting on it the wrong way. You can stand and walk on it without looking like a total gimp, but one wrong step will shoot pains up your spine. There are also degrees of sprains that are much worse than others, regardless of what they are categorized as. It's akin to ankle sprains. For example, you can sprain your ankle and barely put pressure on it, yet be walking fine within a couple days. On the other hand, you can tweak it a little, play through it, and then not get it healthy for a couple months if ever (see 2010 Cleveland Browns QB's and Shaun Lauvao high ankle sprains)---many times the ligaments are stretched and take years to tighten up again or require surgery.

    A knee that has had time to settle down (ala the Brees/Jones Drew comparisons) can be played on depending on the extent of the injury. Guys routinely miss 4-6 weeks during the season with MCL tears though, but they generally don't require surgery. Is Fujita a pussy? He never played again after going down, that was 7 games after the Jets. It depends on the severity and the position played, also.

    I played sports and worked with a torn ACL for 13 years before getting it reconstructed, but at about 75% effectiveness from favoring it. However, if I blew it out (which I did often) rest assured I wasn't playing for a few weeks at least--and definitely not that day---I couldn't if I tried.

    My opinion on Cutler is he just isn't very smart. He should have sold it more so none of this came up. If he took the Jake Delhomme or Favre approach, even to a small extent, it would have looked like he just went through hell and back. Instead, he was cool about it and maybe pouted a little. He just isn't a very mature guy, but that doesn't mean he is not tough. None of us know for sure, though.

    Personally, I want to see my QB look like Couch when he went down in 2002. Try taking a snap and dropping back on the sidelines, and then spike the ball out of frustration and look pissed cuz he just couldn't go. I think most hardcore fans desire that sort of attitude to be convinced.

  • True Grit, minute 4:00. And minute 5:34. Kosar

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    That was a great video, K. But he needed both legs to be able to make the play.

    He didn't need his left arm that much. Different deal.

    Although, I can see Colt going back out onto the field, with the team doctor hanging onto his one good leg... and

    still finding a way to make the play. GGG

  • @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    His team needed him out there if he was healthy, he was not. He would have been a detriment. He tried to come back in and couldn't. I'm pretty sure that you are just arguing for the sake of arguing because no one can be a dense as you are portraying right now.

    OK you win. You've proven you are as big a pussy as Cutler.

    @kosar_for_president said:

    OK you win. You've proven you are as big a pussy as Cutler.

    So I'm as big a pussy as an NFL player that has missed one game in his career despite the fact that he has played behind a terrible OLine the last two years? Thanks for the compliment.

  • Zombo said:

    You'd never get McCoy off the field in the second half of a game unless there was a stretcher involved.

    That is a pretty short memory you have.

  • True Grit, minute 4:00. And minute 5:34. Kosar

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    That was a great video, K. But he needed both legs to be able to make the play.

    He didn't need his left arm that much. Different deal.

    Although, I can see Colt going back out onto the field, with the team doctor hanging onto his one good leg... and

    still finding a way to make the play. GGG

    @calfoxwc said:

    Although, I can see Colt going back out onto the field, with the team doctor hanging onto his one good leg... and

    still finding a way to make the play.

    Tell that to the Texas fans that needed him in the CG last year.

  • The fans who are critical of Cutler are the same ones who call off work when they have the sniffles. The Bears would not even have been in the NFC Championship game if it weren't for Cutler. He got injured, it happens.

    All those who are critical should never take another sick day from work again unless you are deathly ill. he is paid to play and ADD VALUE to his team's chances of winning. If you ask me Lovie did the right thing by going with his 3rd string QB who made the game somewhat competitive- yes they scored with Hanie.

  • Zombo said:

    Colt was never taken off the field, Pizza Fag, he was forced to sit the next several weeks after the injury. But he never came out of a game.

    Zombo

    He is talking about his last national championship game when he had no feeling from the elbow up, hence, he couldn't throw a football.

  • Zombo said:

    Colt was never taken off the field, Pizza Fag, he was forced to sit the next several weeks after the injury. But he never came out of a game.

    Zombo

    Why is it that when presented with facts, you guys result to personal attacks? You could at least come up with something witty or clever. Also, you missed my point entirely. I was referring to the CG where it was being widely reported that his daddy didn't want him to risk further injury by letting him go back in. I personally don't believe that story but I found it hysterical that you are trying to use McCoy as an example of what Cutler should be. You failed miserably.

  • Zombo said:

    McCoy played on a high ankle sprain in the regular season. Cutler sat on a sprained mcl in the championship. Those are facts. See? ... no personal attacks.

    Zombo

    --Faggot

    It was a grade 2 tear, Redneck.

  • McCoy as you may well remember wimped out of the National Championship game against Alabama after his 5th snap of the game. McCoy sat out the BCS Championship game because he wanted to be drafted into the NFL.

  • That is what McCoy and his father said but " all of a sudden lost his arm strength" against Alabama who was likely to end his college and potential pro- career?

    Even McCoy said he felt no pain. He bagged the BCS game against Alabama in order to be drafted

  • Zombo said:

    Whatever it was, he was standing, walking, and could throw. And his team was playing for the Super Bowl. Take a shot and get out there. He's a pussy and so are you.

    Zombo

    He did take a shot and by all accounts he tried to stay in the game but was told he couldn't. You really would be doing yourself a favor if you were more subjective. I'm honestly ashamed to root for the same team as you and a few of your brethren on here. Actually, I think I am done here. You mental midgets can keep fighting in the face of reason and logic, maybe one of these days it will work out for you. I kind of doubt it though.

  • I don't understand how he could have suddenly developed a numb arm. To me, it doesn't make medical sense.

    Could he have been faking the numbness so he would not get truly injured and lose all hopes of a futre multi-million dollar career?

    McElroy played the entire game with a cracked rib and in a flak jacket.......but he played! That's what makes champions.