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Phil Dawson is Still a Brown!

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  • DawgTracker D
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    D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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    Smart move because it only requires a one year commitment and eliminates having another hole to fill

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    • Harry Buffalo Harry BuffaloH
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      Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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      Plus he gets even more money than he wanted in a contract (thought he wanted around 2 million) and lets be honest he deserves every penny.

      Ruining threads since 1897.
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        halfsaneH halfsane wrote on last edited by
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        That's great news!

        Phil deserves it!

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        • nickers nickersN Conversation Starter Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
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          nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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          Thats freakin awesome!

          Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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          • Erie Dawg Erie DawgE
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            Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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            That's good news we have Dawson for another year.

            I wonder if its exclusive or nonexclusive?

            And I would have thought the Browns could've saved some money by using the transition tag?

            Now do we still take the best kicker in the draft for next year?

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            • TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound

              Breaking news via Adam Schefter Twitter:

              "Browns placed their franchise tagon kicker Phil Dawson. Kicker tag projects to be about $3.25 million."

              http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter

              Doubt a team is gonna snag him for more than $3.25 million. Can't believe we used our tag on a kicker but Phil deserves it.

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              S SJ_Browns wrote on last edited by
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              @theclevelandsound said:

              Breaking news via Adam Schefter Twitter:

              "Browns placed their franchise tagon kicker Phil Dawson. Kicker tag projects to be about $3.25 million."

              http://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter

              Doubt a team is gonna snag him for more than $3.25 million. Can't believe we used our tag on a kicker but Phil deserves it.

              this is definitely good news!

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              • Erie DawgE Erie Dawg

                That's good news we have Dawson for another year.

                I wonder if its exclusive or nonexclusive?

                And I would have thought the Browns could've saved some money by using the transition tag?

                Now do we still take the best kicker in the draft for next year?

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                S SJ_Browns wrote on last edited by
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                @erie-dawg said:

                I wonder if its exclusive or nonexclusive?

                good question.

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                  S SJ_Browns wrote on last edited by
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                  http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/...nchise_kic.html

                  CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns have franchised veteran kicker Phil Dawson, a league source said.

                  Dawson, who has been seeking a new contract for several years, is expected to make about $3.25 million, the franchise amount for kickers.

                  Dawson, who made $1 million a year under his previous contract, sold his house in Westlake and didn't expect to be back with the Browns. He can continue to negotiate a long-term deal with the Browns depending on what happens with the new collective bargaining agreement.

                  A 13-year veteran, Dawson passed Hall of Famer Lou Groza (234) for first place on the team's all-time field goal list in 2010.

                  Dawson converted all 28 extra points in 2010 and 23 of 28 field goals with a long of 48. He's also third in most points scored by a Browns player with 1,063, trailing Groza and Don Cockroft.

                  Dawson is the only player on which the Browns have used the franchise tag.

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                    rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                    oh great we have an ordinary kicker at the end of his career as our franchise player,,,,,,,,,,why do I think this is not good news

                    Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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                    • Browns57 B Dedicated Conversation Starter Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                      B Browns57 wrote on last edited by
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                      I love Dawson and I have been glad that he has remained on our team but this is a ridiculous move. Sign the man for $2 mil. Last year was not a good year for Dawson and we reward him with this salary? This makes me excited to see what other stupid moves this braintrust will make next. Maybe it will be a right tackle as the first pick in the draft. The sounds about right.

                      I am really hoping that Holmgren isn't an idiot. Because when an idiot surrounds himself with other idiots who are more like him (SEE RECENT HIRES) idiocy prevails.

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                        Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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                        Well who's going to replace him?

                        An unproven rookie?

                        For some reason top kickers in college never seem to transition well into the nfl.

                        Atleast this way we know what we've got for another year till we find a replacement.

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                          F FearTheRoo wrote on last edited by FearTheRoo
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                          @slurp-and-burp said:

                          only the Browns would franchise a kicker who is over the hill and on the decline. Holmgren is a genius!

                          Big money for a kicker who will get the average of the top 5 kickers when he is ranked 17th out of 32 with his peers.

                          http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?arc...e&Submit=Go

                          Where is

                          ranked??

                          It must suck that even the Browns have a better kicker than you idiots.

                          So that gives us the advantage at TE, RB, P, KR, CB, and now K

                          oh well at least he only missed that fg by about 50 yards to the left...blame the wind right? in the dome? makes sense...

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                            P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                            Who else were they going to tag?

                            I don't know that I'd consider a 13 year veteran kicker to be on the downside of their career. Many kickers last forever.

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                              Who else were they going to tag?

                              I don't know that I'd consider a 13 year veteran kicker to be on the downside of their career. Many kickers last forever.

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                              F FearTheRoo wrote on last edited by
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                              @pumpkin-eater said:

                              Who else were they going to tag?

                              I don't know that I'd consider a 13 year veteran kicker to be on the downside of their career. Many kickers last forever.

                              Lou Groza, greatest kicker of all-time lasted 21 years. To me kicking is not as rough as other positions. Not saying it isn't as important, just that they aren't physically active as much. Keep the leg healthy and stay in shape. They don't need to worry about getting hit like other positions, and the running is a minimum. He doesn't seem to be struggling, and I'd take Phil over a rookie any day...

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                                S Slurp and Burp wrote on last edited by
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                                Dawson might be good and produce but tagging him as untouchable with a $3M price tag seems weird. The Steelers would never make a buffoonish move like that.

                                Funny stuff from Mike Holmgren.

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                                  Dawson might be good and produce but tagging him as untouchable with a $3M price tag seems weird. The Steelers would never make a buffoonish move like that.

                                  Funny stuff from Mike Holmgren.

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                                  F FearTheRoo wrote on last edited by
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                                  @slurp-and-burp said:

                                  Dawson might be good and produce but tagging him as untouchable with a $3M price tag seems weird. The Steelers would never make a buffoonish move like that.

                                  Funny stuff from Mike Holmgren.

                                  They would never sign a GOOD kicker...

                                  wide left

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                                    @slurp-and-burp said:

                                    Dawson might be good and produce but tagging him as untouchable with a $3M price tag seems weird. The Steelers would never make a buffoonish move like that.

                                    Funny stuff from Mike Holmgren.

                                    They would never sign a GOOD kicker...

                                    wide left

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                                    nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by nickers
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                                    @feartheroo said:

                                    They would never sign a GOOD kicker...

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                                    Whats gonna be funny is watching Mike Wallace bolt pittspuke for big money when his contract runs up cuz I highly doubt the rooneys will show it to him.

                                    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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                                      @slurp-and-burp said:

                                      Dawson might be good and produce but tagging him as untouchable with a $3M price tag seems weird. The Steelers would never make a buffoonish move like that.

                                      Funny stuff from Mike Holmgren.

                                      They would never sign a GOOD kicker...

                                      wide left

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                                      TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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                                      @feartheroo said:

                                      They would never sign a GOOD kicker...

                                      wide left

                                      On a side note, please beat Miami (OH) tomorrow so we can have first place in the MAC.

                                      Oh, and your getting your ass kicked on ESPN2 next Friday.

                                      Continue 🙂

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                                      • rich4eagleR rich4eagle

                                        oh great we have an ordinary kicker at the end of his career as our franchise player,,,,,,,,,,why do I think this is not good news

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                                        hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                                        @rich4eagle said:

                                        oh great we have an ordinary kicker at the end of his career as our franchise player,,,,,,,,,,why do I think this is not good news

                                        Because you're a Steeler fan?

                                        Ordinary? Buy a CLUE Rich. Dawson has moved into the top 50 all time points scored (#43 to be exact). He's in the TOP 10 career field goal accuracy- ahead of Adam Vinaterri I may add. This is one time I'll say the guy deserves every damn cent.

                                        And as others have said, great kickers can last 20 years or so. Seven of the top ten guys in most games played were kickers (Morten Anderson tops the list) my dear friend. Dawson passes Don Cockroft this year in points scored- and if the Browns finally start playing decent- he has a legit shot at topping Lou Groza down the road.

                                        In fact (regardless of who he plays for) me and Zombo (I hope) will allow you redemption on the Willie Green- Clarett bet. Buck for every point over under career on Dawson vs. Groza. Right now, that's $545 IOU. Seasonal updates will be prominently posted.

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                                          oh great we have an ordinary kicker at the end of his career as our franchise player,,,,,,,,,,why do I think this is not good news

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                          @rich4eagle said:

                                          oh great we have an ordinary kicker at the end of his career as our franchise player,,,,,,,,,,why do I think this is not good news

                                          He has not been an ordinary kicker, he has been an outstanding kicker. And remember, he is a KICKER. He is "only" 36. That might be old for most other football players, but with a kicker he could have another good 5 years or more. Half the active kickers in the NFL are probably his age.

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