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  • i would love to swap places with Cincy but im sure it would cost way to much, i think Green is as good as gone to them and lets hope Haden can shut him down twice a year...Also if they do draft him i wouldnt be even more upset if we were to grab Peterson or Prince that would help the Seconadry alot.....Other than that i think if there really looking for a playmaker on the Offensive why not just trade back a couple of spots and get say Julio Jones while picking up a couple extra picks that we could use towards the D

  • Also i hope we cut Delhomme and keep Wallace, while adding a QB in one of the later rounds to try to groom into the WCO

  • with all of the talk of cincy possible drafting aj green do you think the question mark at qb could affect their choice? i'm not sure what the latest is, but didn't palmer want out of bengal town? and palmer hasn't been looking all that great the past few years. any thoughts on cincy going after a qb in the first rd?

  • I HOPE Palmer is serious, and that would leave Cincy drafting a qb.. maybe Cam Newton.. @@

    Yes, trading up would be too costly, for the Browns.

    My hunch is, that Cincy won't draft Green, because with their stud wr's, they still sucked and

    finished badly in the division. I see them going after Fairley with his character issues. That'd fit their tendencies...

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  • mikeyP72 said:

    Think we could trade Jake for a washing machine and get rid of his contract????

    I need a new washing machine. Do you think the Browns would trade him so that I could get a new washing machine?

  • I think that Cincy may go for a QB if Palmer does indeed retire like he says he will do, but i see them grabbing Green to try and make his life a lil easier....But ill be hoping they go after Cam Newton or another QB but i just dont see that theres any QBs worth taking at the #4 spot unless Newton blows people away with his Pro day and 40 time and other things

  • halfsaneH halfsane

    I would love Peterson. I love me some good corner play!

    @halfsane said:

    I would love Peterson. I love me some good corner play!

    He's a tank but does he make it to 6? I think he's a top 5 talent.

    EDIT: And for those suggesting a trade up it would be ABSOLUTELY mental. You're picking 6th and will have a great talent at that spot no matter what. I don't know what trading up would cost but it would likely too much and you may only need to move up one spot. Most of the mocks I've seen have the Browns drafting AJ Green so I imagine that's the pick especially if the Bengals lose Palmer and even then I don't see them drafting a WR. They still have CJ and Owens will probably stick around. I don't think a WR makes Palmer stay.

    AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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    @halfsane said:

    I would love Peterson. I love me some good corner play!

    He's a tank but does he make it to 6? I think he's a top 5 talent.

    EDIT: And for those suggesting a trade up it would be ABSOLUTELY mental. You're picking 6th and will have a great talent at that spot no matter what. I don't know what trading up would cost but it would likely too much and you may only need to move up one spot. Most of the mocks I've seen have the Browns drafting AJ Green so I imagine that's the pick especially if the Bengals lose Palmer and even then I don't see them drafting a WR. They still have CJ and Owens will probably stick around. I don't think a WR makes Palmer stay.

    Homotron said:

    He's a tank but does he make it to 6? I think he's a top 5 talent.

    Most of the mocks I've seen have the Browns drafting AJ Green so I imagine that's the pick especially if the Bengals lose Palmer and even then I don't see them drafting a WR. They still have CJ and Owens will probably stick around. I don't think a WR makes Palmer stay.

    I don't see any way that Owens will be allowed to say after running his mouth at the end of last season. But, Cincy has done a great job of drafting receivers in the past and not first rounds. Whosyourmomma and Chad were both second rounders I think

  • VagitronV Vagitron

    @halfsane said:

    I would love Peterson. I love me some good corner play!

    He's a tank but does he make it to 6? I think he's a top 5 talent.

    EDIT: And for those suggesting a trade up it would be ABSOLUTELY mental. You're picking 6th and will have a great talent at that spot no matter what. I don't know what trading up would cost but it would likely too much and you may only need to move up one spot. Most of the mocks I've seen have the Browns drafting AJ Green so I imagine that's the pick especially if the Bengals lose Palmer and even then I don't see them drafting a WR. They still have CJ and Owens will probably stick around. I don't think a WR makes Palmer stay.

    Homotron said:

    He's a tank but does he make it to 6? I think he's a top 5 talent.

    EDIT: And for those suggesting a trade up it would be ABSOLUTELY mental. You're picking 6th and will have a great talent at that spot no matter what. I don't know what trading up would cost but it would likely too much and you may only need to move up one spot. Most of the mocks I've seen have the Browns drafting AJ Green so I imagine that's the pick especially if the Bengals lose Palmer and even then I don't see them drafting a WR. They still have CJ and Owens will probably stick around. I don't think a WR makes Palmer stay.

    A lot of teams go BPA instead of need and AJ Green is the BPA. I really don't see any way he makes it to 6. As far as being mental for suggesting a trade up, I stated that I almost always hate the idea but when there is a chance to fill your biggest need with the best prospect that has come along in 3-4 years sometimes you have to bite the bullet. Is it worth the price/risk? I am not sure. But if the FO truly believes in McCoy then they need to get him some weapons. If you go into next season with Ben Watson and Peyton Hillis as your top receiving threats then you should just press the fast forward button until it is time for the 2012 draft.

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  • Lets trade Delhomme and a 4th rounder to Cincy for their pick. I'm game.

    Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10

  • question: where can i find combine results?

  • There is no way we trade a pick. If Cincinnati drafts green, we definitely need to draft a corner. This year almost seems like a wash with all the cba drama heading in a bad direction. Also I have a feeling Cribbs will be traded on draft day, for what I am not sure.

  • IMO, trading up for a WR would be insane. But exactly the kind of stupid move we have been known for I guess. We aren't a WR away from contending. If we were a strong team with one major weakness at wr then it might make sense. Too many holes to fill on this roster right now.

    I don't see how this team can afford to burn a draft pick on another developmental QB, even in the 5th or 6th round. There will be plenty of undrafted guys you can look at for training camp qb's. It is a lot more likely to find a useful lineman, linebacker or special teams player with the lower picks. That is how the best teams solidify their rosters.. by finding useful players in the lower rounds and among undrafted players.

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    IMO, trading up for a WR would be insane. But exactly the kind of stupid move we have been known for I guess. We aren't a WR away from contending. If we were a strong team with one major weakness at wr then it might make sense. Too many holes to fill on this roster right now.

    I don't see how this team can afford to burn a draft pick on another developmental QB, even in the 5th or 6th round. There will be plenty of undrafted guys you can look at for training camp qb's. It is a lot more likely to find a useful lineman, linebacker or special teams player with the lower picks. That is how the best teams solidify their rosters.. by finding useful players in the lower rounds and among undrafted players.

    @4browns said:

    IMO, trading up for a WR would be insane. But exactly the kind of stupid move we have been known for I guess. We aren't a WR away from contending. If we were a strong team with one major weakness at wr then it might make sense. Too many holes to fill on this roster right now.

    I don't see how this team can afford to burn a draft pick on another developmental QB, even in the 5th or 6th round. There will be plenty of undrafted guys you can look at for training camp qb's. It is a lot more likely to find a useful lineman, linebacker or special teams player with the lower picks. That is how the best teams solidify their rosters.. by finding useful players in the lower rounds and among undrafted players.

    Tyrod Taylor. Will at the very least become a good Wild Dawg QB, could develop into a Mick Vick type of player who we could either trade for more than we spent, or have take over if Colt doesn't pan out. That is what homlgren was known for, taking QB's late and shipping them out later after he had turned them into something. Think of it as an investment.

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  • Yeah I would spend a 7th on Tyrod Taylor. He could be descent 24 td and only 4 picks plus over 800 yards rushing on 19 attempts. I would take him in the 7th, maybe 6th.

  • you guys are crazy if you think Green is gonna slip all the way to 6 hes the best player on alot of teams board and they will just draft strictly on BPA not on needs, so to people saying that hes gonna slip Ill be here on Draft Day when Cincy grabs him

  • Yeah, if Green runs a solid sub 4.35, he'll most definitely be gone by 6.

  • S secondwave

    Yeah, if Green runs a solid sub 4.35, he'll most definitely be gone by 6.

    @secondwave said:

    Yeah, if Green runs a solid sub 4.35, he'll most definitely be gone by 6.

    I don't think he is that fast, more like a 4.4 - 4.45. And you rright there is a good chance that he is taken by Cinci as long as they still think Palmer isn't serious and teams before them might pick best available player with at least Cam Newton and maybe that dude from Missouri going too. But if you think about it one of the 5 players will fall to us, Miller, Green, Peterson, Fairly, Bowers and I am fine with taking any of these guys.

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  • I think Palmer is serious. In my opinion, who wants to play and stay for that piece of shit organization who only have two winning season over the last 20 years??? However....They had better receivers last year. No question about it. The Bengals gave Palmer Ocho and Owens. Weren't those two good enough? If you can't do good with those two, then you suck period.

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    I think Palmer is serious. In my opinion, who wants to play and stay for that piece of shit organization who only have two winning season over the last 20 years??? However....They had better receivers last year. No question about it. The Bengals gave Palmer Ocho and Owens. Weren't those two good enough? If you can't do good with those two, then you suck period.

    @dawgpound3 said:

    I think Palmer is serious. In my opinion, who wants to play and stay for that piece of shit organization who only have two winning season over the last 20 years??? However....They had better receivers last year. No question about it. The Bengals gave Palmer Ocho and Owens. Weren't those two good enough? If you can't do good with those two, then you suck period.

    He may be serious, but take a look at the Bengals organization.

    They don't budge when it comes to threats like that.

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