Odds of winning the 2011 season Super Bowl

The Gipper

@slurp-and-burp said:
The Browns are still drafting in the top ten year after year while the Steelers draft in the much later category and yet we have owned the Browns with 20 wins in the last 24 games played.
These are the facts.

You have to do much more analysis of a situation that you have put forth such as this above. It is not enough to just state facts, you must explain why those facts exists.

Example: We know for a fact that you suck dicks and eat shit for breakfast. Those are given facts. The question is: Why?

Vagitron

mikeyP72 said:
Historically maybe, what stats are you looking at numb nutts? Try looking at 2010-2011.
You need to re-read my posts sugartits.

So the guy has one solid season since his second in the league and he's now all world? I don't think the guy is awful but he's not the best in the AFC north, nor the most complete. My opinion. Nothing less, nothing more.

Slurp and Burp

I Ben Watson is so damn good why did the Browns only win a total of 10 games these past two years? Why doesn't Watson have any Post Season statistics? hmmmm.

USFBrown

@slurp-and-burp said:
I Ben Watson is so damn good why did the Browns only win a total of 10 games these past two years? Why doesn't Watson have any Post Season statistics? hmmmm.

Because one player makes an entire team.

Dumb ass.

P.S. He was only on the team this last season.

pizzadeliveryguy

@slurp-and-burp said:
I Ben Watson is so damn good why did the Browns only win a total of 10 games these past two years? Why doesn't Watson have any Post Season statistics? hmmmm.

You can't even troll well. Nice fail.

Thomaspro

Slurp and Burp and Homotron,

You can not even troll well. It is ok to admit your wrong once in a while. We are all human. So let it go. You lost this one.

Vagitron

@thomaspro said:
Slurp and Burp and Homotron,
You can not even troll well. It is ok to admit your wrong once in a while. We are all human. So let it go. You lost this one.

If I thought I was wrong I would have admitted it already. Ben Watson dropped off the map in New England and is exactly why they let him walk and drafted two rookies. The same two rookies that saw the ball a TON this year. Watson had a rookie QB and very marginal targets on either side of him. He certainly has speed so he proves to be a bit of a match up problem for some LB's. If you're getting more targets than any other receiver on the team one could expect a player in the NFL to rack up decent yardage. I'd love to see the targets break down for all receivers/tight ends on the Browns this past season. If we're all being objective and Watson is so good then why did he end up with the Browns? People didn't go hard for him in free agency despite him being rated the top TE in a free agent class that was absolutely dismal AT best. Who knows maybe the Browns are a good fit for him and he'll see a resurgence but once season until proven otherwise is aberration. He had one other good season statistically and the rest ducks up until now. His previous team New England loves to use their TE's and are pass happy with Brady. Sorry guys I'd admit I was wrong if I felt I was/am wrong but I'm not on this one. Watson may prove otherwise. I still wouldn't take him over Miller or Heap. Gresham doesn't have enough of a track record so I'll stop "trolling" with the "worst in the AFC north" He may be 3rd (Watson)

FearTheRoo

Last season Watson had more receiving yards and more TDs than Miller.

Argument ended, stats don't lie

get over it

Comparison.

Vagitron

@feartheroo said:
Last season Watson had more receiving yards and more TDs than Miller.
Argument ended, stats don't lie

get over it

Comparison..

And Ben Watson has less yards and less TD's than Miller over the length of his career with ONE MORE SEASON than Miller. Argument ended. The Stats don't lie

Get over it.

FearTheRoo

Homotron said:
And Ben Watson has less yards and less TD's than Miller over the length of his career with ONE MORE SEASON than Miller. Argument ended. The Stats don't lie
Get over it.

I never said anything about careers. Who was the better tight end last year? Ben Watson...no matter how you try to spin it, Watson was better! deal with it

If we're talking about the past, using your "logic"....Colt is better than Ben because he won more games in college right

Slurp and Burp

and the Browns won 5 games. big whoop dee doo.

FearTheRoo

@slurp-and-burp said:
and the Browns won 5 games. big whoop dee doo.

and the Steelers lost to the Packers and the Pirates have been irrelevant for 20 years. big whoop dee doo

Slurp and Burp

and the Browns big bad tough football team has never even set foot in a Super Bowl game let alone win 6 Super Bowls like the Steelers have done.

We have played in 8 Super Bowls and won 6 of them. Now go eat a moon pie and cry in your beer.

sucks to be you.

nickers

Homotron said:
And Ben Watson has less yards and less TD's than Miller over the length of his career with ONE MORE SEASON than Miller. Argument ended. The Stats don't lie
Get over it.

Theres actually times id love to cut you some slack but your cry baby rant on Miller..just keeps Me from letting it happen...please...do the Browns and Stooler nation a favor and dive off a cliff...because you're an embarrasment to your own bretheren even....

dawgpound3

@slurp-and-burp said:
and the Browns big bad tough football team has never even set foot in a Super Bowl game let alone win 6 Super Bowls like the Steelers have done.
We have played in 8 Super Bowls and won 6 of them. Now go eat a moon pie and cry in your beer.

sucks to be you.

And the Pirates haven't won a world series since 1979

Sucks to be you bitchzz

dawgpound3

Miller and Watson are both great blockers but Watson is the better receiving tight end. End of argument.

Slurp and Burp

and the Pirates who blow still have won more World Series Titles than the Indians. We have won 5 you have only won 2..

Even the Pirates put your town to shame..

@dawgpound3 said:
And the Pirates haven't won a world series since 1979
Sucks to be you bitchzz

nickers

@dawgpound3 said:
Miller and Watson are both great blockers but Watson is the better receiving tight end. End of argument.

not only the better the better recieving TE but has MORE speed and is MORE athletic.

dawgpound3

@slurp-and-burp said:
and the Pirates who blow still have won more World Series Titles than the Indians. We have won 5 you have only won 2..
Even the Pirates put your town to shame..

Least we've had a winning season in 2007 and sniffed the playoffs while your Pirates haven't had a winning season in 18 years, which is crazy.

Vagitron

@nickers said:
Theres actually times id love to cut you some slack but your cry baby rant on Miller..just keeps Me from letting it happen...please...do the Browns and Stooler nation a favor and dive off a cliff...because you're an embarrasment to your own bretheren even....

Yo Nickers I don't want your slack nor have I ever asked for it. It's not even a cry baby rant on Heath Miller but rather a realistic take on Ben Watson who couldn't find a team outside of the Browns to sign him.