Still doubt Julio's Speed?

ClevelandFanForLife

I have been saying for a while that I think that if we go the WR route in the first that we should trade down and take Julio Jones. He has a big frame and is stronger than any other receiver in the draft. A knock on him has been that his speed isn't there. I am watching the combine and Jones just ran a 4.43 which is better than AJ Green's 4.48. Jones may be working himself into the top ten and we may not have to trade down.

pizzadeliveryguy

@clevelandfanforlife said:
I have been saying for a while that I think that if we go the WR route in the first that we should trade down and take Julio Jones. He has a big frame and is stronger than any other receiver in the draft. A knock on him has been that his speed isn't there. I am watching the combine and Jones just ran a 4.43 which is better than AJ Green's 4.48. Jones may be working himself into the top ten and we may not have to trade down.

If I am not mistaken, the knock on him is his inconsistent hands.

ClevelandFanForLife

Edit: Jones just posted a 4.39. Wow, to have that size and speed is rare. I like him even more now. This guy may be working himself ahead of Green.

ClevelandFanForLife

@pizzadeliveryguy said:
If I am not mistaken, the knock on him is his inconsistent hands.

That is a concern that I have heard but I have also heard mumblings about his speed. This just busted that.

pizzadeliveryguy

Also, Jones is not close to being the prospect that AJ Green is. If we could get him at 2.6, I would be happy but taking Jones in the top 20 will be a mistake.

secondwave

@clevelandfanforlife said:
Edit: Jones just posted a 4.39. Wow, to have that size and speed is rare. I like him even more now. This guy may be working himself ahead of Green.

I've seen EVERY single Alabama game for the past 12 years, so I can tell you more about Alabama players than most "pundits". I can tell you myself, Julio Jones' hands are a big issue. He's not a sure thing.

AJ Green is. Speed isn't everything. Like the delivery guy said, he'd be a huge mistake

ClevelandFanForLife

@secondwave said:
I've seen EVERY single Alabama game for the past 12 years. I can tell you myself, Julio Jones' hands are a big issue. He's not a sure thing.
AJ Green is. Speed isn't everything.

I'll take your word for it. You know more about him than I do. I thought his hands weren't on the same level as T.O. or Braylon. I trust your judgement though.

ClevelandFanForLife

@pizzadeliveryguy said:
Also, Jones is not close to being the prospect that AJ Green is. If we could get him at 2.6, I would be happy but taking Jones in the top 20 will be a mistake.

Just curious, what exactly makes Green the better prospect? I know that speed isn't everything but it can be important.

ballpeen

Both make exciting plays. Green seems to make the routine plays more often than does Jones.

The speed is important, but Green isn't slow, so the difference between the two really won't translate in to more big plays by Jones.

pizzadeliveryguy

@clevelandfanforlife said:
Just curious, what exactly makes Green the better prospect? I know that speed isn't everything but it can be important.

Hands, Route running, body control, and size.

WRREBEL

Remember the name leonard hankerson, also google what a norwegin ice rocket is

Canton Mike

Yeah, I would LOVE to be confident in the drafting of Jones, but good hands in a WCO are VITAL. As we also know, great size, speed, athleticism & poor concentration/hands do NOT make a recipe for success. That kid is a major question mark. I'll place my confidence in Heckert & company coupled with what looks to be a pretty solid Coaching staff.

Mike

ClevelandFanForLife

@wrrebel said:
Remember the name leonard hankerson, also google what a norwegin ice rocket is

Hahaha. Nice plug (no pun intended).

pizzadeliveryguy

@wrrebel said:
Remember the name leonard hankerson, also google what a norwegin ice rocket is

Hankerson could be a steal.

WRREBEL

@pizzadeliveryguy said:
Hankerson could be a steal.

i agree.. I think if he slips to the 3rd rd he will be a good grab. Hehas the physical tools just needs to work on sataying focused

secondwave

@wrrebel said:
i agree.. I think if he slips to the 3rd rd he will be a good grab. Hehas the physical tools just needs to work on sataying focused

Can someone give me a report on Jon Baldwin? Haven't seen a Pitt game all year, and he could be an option at the 2nd round if we don't draft AJ Green in the 1st.

pizzadeliveryguy

@secondwave said:
Can someone give me a report on Jon Baldwin? Haven't seen a Pitt game all year, and he could be an option at the 2nd round if we don't draft AJ Green in the 1st.

Going by what they were saying at the combine, he needs work on route running and was just asked to mainly go vertical in college. To me, it sounded like he may not be a good fit for the WCO. I could be wrong though.

Nw220

Havent go to watch the Combine but i cant say im not surprized still Green over Jones anyday of the week

WRREBEL

Julio jones is having himself a great combine.

But really do we really care how far someone can jump? I understand the 40 drill and some of the others, but long jump?

if I was there I would have them do there end zone dance instead of the long jump

dawgpound3

@wrrebel said:
Julio jones is having himself a great combine.
But really do we really care how far someone can jump? I understand the 40 drill and some of the others, but long jump?

if I was there I would have them do there end zone dance instead of the long jump

I think Jumping is great test to see how high you can jump. As a receiver, your skill of jumping is an important asset, and jumping for a jumpball is very much an integral part of the game.