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I know a lot of people aren't taking the Peterson to Browns speculation seriously, but I have a weird feeling he falls to us.
Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.
Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.
http://sea.scout.com/2/816748.html
History I've seen of him while he was GM and coach for Seattle, agreed with that article, I wasn't really excited over Holmgren's hire until he was named President and not the GM whom Heckert is and i believe Heckert is the main man doing our drafting while Holmgren oversees it. Also have to realize Holmgren was GM AND head coaching those years, I believe just doing one or the other and not both helps greatly in doing those jobs well.
Heckert's tenure with the Eagle's really showed his eye for talent.
Here is Heckert's history before last year's draft: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/04/in_the_shadows_browns_gm_tom_h.html
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Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.
http://sea.scout.com/2/816748.html
History I've seen of him while he was GM and coach for Seattle, agreed with that article, I wasn't really excited over Holmgren's hire until he was named President and not the GM whom Heckert is and i believe Heckert is the main man doing our drafting while Holmgren oversees it. Also have to realize Holmgren was GM AND head coaching those years, I believe just doing one or the other and not both helps greatly in doing those jobs well.
Heckert's tenure with the Eagle's really showed his eye for talent.
Here is Heckert's history before last year's draft: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/04/in_the_shadows_browns_gm_tom_h.html
http://sea.scout.com/2/816748.html
History I've seen of him while he was GM and coach for Seattle, agreed with that article, I wasn't really excited over Holmgren's hire until he was named President and not the GM whom Heckert is and i believe Heckert is the main man doing our drafting while Holmgren oversees it. Also have to realize Holmgren was GM AND head coaching those years, I believe just doing one or the other and not both helps greatly in doing those jobs well.
Heckert's tenure with the Eagle's really showed his eye for talent.
Here is Heckert's history before last year's draft: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/04/in_the_shadows_browns_gm_tom_h.html
It looks like his best draft was in 2002 when he didn't make any trades. Look at all of the trades he made afterwards.
It looks like a crap shoot.
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I know a lot of people aren't taking the Peterson to Browns speculation seriously, but I have a weird feeling he falls to us.
Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.
Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.
I do not believe that Holmgren was making the personell decisions when he was with the Packers. I believe that was Ron Wolfe, so it might be misleading to look at those and apply them to Holmgren's record, though I am sure he had some input.
And here, actually, most of the player acquisition is supposed to be made by Heckert, not Holmgren, though again, I am sure he has significant input.
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Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.
I do not believe that Holmgren was making the personell decisions when he was with the Packers. I believe that was Ron Wolfe, so it might be misleading to look at those and apply them to Holmgren's record, though I am sure he had some input.
And here, actually, most of the player acquisition is supposed to be made by Heckert, not Holmgren, though again, I am sure he has significant input.
I do not believe that Holmgren was making the personell decisions when he was with the Packers. I believe that was Ron Wolfe, so it might be misleading to look at those and apply them to Holmgren's record, though I am sure he had some input.
And here, actually, most of the player acquisition is supposed to be made by Heckert, not Holmgren, though again, I am sure he has significant input.
I was referring to Heckert's tenure with the Eagles according to the Plain Dealer article. They made numerous trades and most of them didn't pan out.
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Hey guys new poster here. First off great site you have here, I have been filling my down time at work reading your posts for a few months now. Ok so here's my take on things. I really think with the 6th pick we will address one of the holes in the front 7 or take peterson or the kid from nebraska. Although I like aj green and jones I don't think wr is the way to go mostly because of the way the cba is shaping up. If there are no mini camps training camp etc. They will not have the time needed to learn the new system or mesh with colt and the coaches. Its a lot easier to have a rookie jump in and learn on the fly on defense as opposed to a wr doing the same. Wouldn't surprise me if we trade down for extra picks either.
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mikeyP72 said:
No WR on that list.
Not surprising...
I still have no idea why we believe that position is set? All we got is MoMass and Watson to throw to. You play a team with a good secondary they could double cover those guys all day and we'd be screwed.
Don't get me wrong, I think MoMass is great, but he needs help!!!!
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mikeyP72 said:
No WR on that list.
Not surprising...
I still have no idea why we believe that position is set? All we got is MoMass and Watson to throw to. You play a team with a good secondary they could double cover those guys all day and we'd be screwed.
Don't get me wrong, I think MoMass is great, but he needs help!!!!
Not surprising...
I still have no idea why we believe that position is set? All we got is MoMass and Watson to throw to. You play a team with a good secondary they could double cover those guys all day and we'd be screwed.
Don't get me wrong, I think MoMass is great, but he needs help!!!!
No one said we're not drafting a WR, probably just not in the 1st round. And for the millionth time, there IS free agency.
And MoMass is great? Have we been watching the same team? He has the potential (not yet achieved) to be a good #2.
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Were going to draft green if hes there...mark it down!
Imagine both Peterson and Green fall to us. That'll be one awesome problem to have, no?
if that does happen, Peterson is too great of a prospect (better than Green) to pass up.
I've already jumped on the Alshon Jeffrey bandwagon. He's a better prospect than AJ Green.
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Were going to draft green if hes there...mark it down!
Imagine both Peterson and Green fall to us. That'll be one awesome problem to have, no?
if that does happen, Peterson is too great of a prospect (better than Green) to pass up.
I've already jumped on the Alshon Jeffrey bandwagon. He's a better prospect than AJ Green.
Imagine both Peterson and Green fall to us. That'll be one awesome problem to have, no?
if that does happen, Peterson is too great of a prospect (better than Green) to pass up.
I've already jumped on the Alshon Jeffrey bandwagon. He's a better prospect than AJ Green.
Yeah but Alshon Jeffery will be a top 5 selection next year so unless were picking top 5, i dont see us getting him ethier...Heres hoping Green falls to us which may happen if the Bengals take a QB....Also Justin Blackmon is my guy next year i dont think we'll have a shot at Jeffery
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mikeyP72 said:
No WR on that list.
Not surprising...
I still have no idea why we believe that position is set? All we got is MoMass and Watson to throw to. You play a team with a good secondary they could double cover those guys all day and we'd be screwed.
Don't get me wrong, I think MoMass is great, but he needs help!!!!
Not surprising...
I still have no idea why we believe that position is set? All we got is MoMass and Watson to throw to. You play a team with a good secondary they could double cover those guys all day and we'd be screwed.
Don't get me wrong, I think MoMass is great, but he needs help!!!!
MoMass and great are 2 words that should never be in the same sentence.
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mikeyP72 said:
MoMass was effective when lined up opposite of Braylon Edwards. He's shown glimpses and can be a solid WR in the NFL if we had more of a passing threat opposite of him...
His numbers weren't entirely too much different. He had about 200 more yards, and one more touchdown against opposing teams #2's. It's a difference, but not anything drastic. I agree, we need a passing threat next to him, I don't think MoMass will ever be a solid #1.
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Sources: Von Miller to visit Browns, Bills
March, 14, 2011
MAR 14
5:30
By James Walker
Following a very strong combine and pro day, Texas A&M linebacker Von Miller is generating a lot of interest at the top of the NFL draft.
Multiple sources tell the AFC North blog that Miller will visit with the Buffalo Bills this week on March 16-17, as well as the Cleveland Browns on April 11-12. Buffalo and Cleveland hold the No. 3 overall pick and No. 6 pick, respectively.
Miller is considered the top linebacker prospect in this year's draft. He is also the only rookie who is part of the NFLPA's lawsuit against the league, joining high-profile veterans such as quarterbacks Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Drew Brees.
There is some speculation about whether Miller could be blackballed by teams during the lockout. But that doesn't appear to be the case, as Cleveland and Buffalo are showing interest and hold very high picks in the first round. Both teams also need help in the front seven of its struggling defenses.
Miller recorded 68 tackles, 11 sacks and an interception last season for the Aggies. He recently wowed scouts by running a blazing 4.49 in the 40-yard dash during his pro day.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/25671/sources-von-miller-to-visit-browns-bills
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It doesn't matter who we pick as long as he is the bpa on Heckert's board.
Does anyone else think Raheem Moore might be there in the 2nd? That would be a steal.
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It doesn't matter who we pick as long as he is the bpa on Heckert's board.
Does anyone else think Raheem Moore might be there in the 2nd? That would be a steal.
It doesn't matter who we pick as long as he is the bpa on Heckert's board.
Does anyone else think Raheem Moore might be there in the 2nd? That would be a steal.
Im glad someone else was thinking the same thing, i would love to grab Rahim Moore in the 2nd to pair with Ward they would complenet each other perfectly
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It doesn't matter who we pick as long as he is the bpa on Heckert's board.
Does anyone else think Raheem Moore might be there in the 2nd? That would be a steal.
Im glad someone else was thinking the same thing, i would love to grab Rahim Moore in the 2nd to pair with Ward they would complenet each other perfectly
Im glad someone else was thinking the same thing, i would love to grab Rahim Moore in the 2nd to pair with Ward they would complenet each other perfectly
All the mocks Ive seen have Moore going late 1st so I doubt he'll be there in the 2nd, but if he is, I would love to grab him to round out our secondary (with an upgraded CB soonish).
As for Von Miller, I keep hearing he is a prototypical 3-4 OLB and that his strength is rushing the QB. Apparently he showed good skills dropping back in coverage at the combine, but Im not sure drafting him to play a 4-3 LB who wont rush much in Jaurons system is the right way to go, especially since our DL is shit and there will be a lot of good talent available. You build in the trenches or else a good/great LB has little impact. That being said, I would love to trade down is someone is salivating over Miller at 6.
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