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  • CLEVELandMILIDH C
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    C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by CLEVELandMILIDH
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    @RavensInsider: Louisville cornerback Johnny Patrick met with a dozen NFL teams, including the Cleveland Browns. 02-28

    <b>Browns | Talked with Noel Devine

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    Mon, 28 Feb 2011 13:15:11 -0800

    West Virginia RB Noel Devine said he has talked with the Cleveland Browns at the NFL Scouting Combine.

    <b>Browns | Met with Patrick Peterson

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    Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:00:05 -0800

    Louisiana State CB Patrick Peterson said he has met with the Cleveland Browns at the NFL Scouting Combine.

    <b>Browns | Have talked with Will Hill

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    Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:56:27 -0800

    University of Florida S Will Hill said he has spoken with the Cleveland Browns at the NFL Scouting Combine.

    <b>Browns | Have talked with Allen Bailey

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    Sat, 26 Feb 2011 14:14:16 -0800

    University of Miami DE Allen Bailey said he has talked with Cleveland Browns at the NFL Scouting Combine.

    <b>Browns | Have met with Tyron Smith

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    Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:05:43 -0800

    Southern California OT Tyron Smith said he has met with the Cleveland Browns at the NFL Scouting Combine.

    Read more: <a href="http://www.kffl.com/team/13/nfl#ixzz1FIGbDY86" target="_blank">http://www.kffl.com/team/13/nfl#ixzz1FIGbDY86</a>

    1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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      C ClevelandBigDawg wrote on last edited by
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      Glad to see Patrick Peterson there.

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        I know a lot of people aren't taking the Peterson to Browns speculation seriously, but I have a weird feeling he falls to us.

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          I know a lot of people aren't taking the Peterson to Browns speculation seriously, but I have a weird feeling he falls to us.

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          Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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          @secondwave said:

          I know a lot of people aren't taking the Peterson to Browns speculation seriously, but I have a weird feeling he falls to us.

          Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.

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            @secondwave said:

            I know a lot of people aren't taking the Peterson to Browns speculation seriously, but I have a weird feeling he falls to us.

            Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.

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            K Kovah wrote on last edited by Kovah
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            @mr.-t said:

            Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.

            http://sea.scout.com/2/816748.html

            History I've seen of him while he was GM and coach for Seattle, agreed with that article, I wasn't really excited over Holmgren's hire until he was named President and not the GM whom Heckert is and i believe Heckert is the main man doing our drafting while Holmgren oversees it. Also have to realize Holmgren was GM AND head coaching those years, I believe just doing one or the other and not both helps greatly in doing those jobs well.

            Heckert's tenure with the Eagle's really showed his eye for talent.

            Here is Heckert's history before last year's draft: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/04/in_the_shadows_browns_gm_tom_h.html

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              halfsaneH halfsane wrote on last edited by
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              I noticed that.

              We are going to draft Peterson!

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                @mr.-t said:

                Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.

                http://sea.scout.com/2/816748.html

                History I've seen of him while he was GM and coach for Seattle, agreed with that article, I wasn't really excited over Holmgren's hire until he was named President and not the GM whom Heckert is and i believe Heckert is the main man doing our drafting while Holmgren oversees it. Also have to realize Holmgren was GM AND head coaching those years, I believe just doing one or the other and not both helps greatly in doing those jobs well.

                Heckert's tenure with the Eagle's really showed his eye for talent.

                Here is Heckert's history before last year's draft: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/04/in_the_shadows_browns_gm_tom_h.html

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                Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                @kovah said:

                http://sea.scout.com/2/816748.html

                History I've seen of him while he was GM and coach for Seattle, agreed with that article, I wasn't really excited over Holmgren's hire until he was named President and not the GM whom Heckert is and i believe Heckert is the main man doing our drafting while Holmgren oversees it. Also have to realize Holmgren was GM AND head coaching those years, I believe just doing one or the other and not both helps greatly in doing those jobs well.

                Heckert's tenure with the Eagle's really showed his eye for talent.

                Here is Heckert's history before last year's draft: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/04/in_the_shadows_browns_gm_tom_h.html

                It looks like his best draft was in 2002 when he didn't make any trades. Look at all of the trades he made afterwards.

                It looks like a crap shoot.

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                  @secondwave said:

                  I know a lot of people aren't taking the Peterson to Browns speculation seriously, but I have a weird feeling he falls to us.

                  Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.

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                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                  @mr.-t said:

                  Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.

                  I do not believe that Holmgren was making the personell decisions when he was with the Packers. I believe that was Ron Wolfe, so it might be misleading to look at those and apply them to Holmgren's record, though I am sure he had some input.

                  And here, actually, most of the player acquisition is supposed to be made by Heckert, not Holmgren, though again, I am sure he has significant input.

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                  • halfsaneH halfsane

                    I noticed that.

                    We are going to draft Peterson!

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @halfsane said:

                    I noticed that.

                    We are going to draft Peterson!

                    I believe we will be taking one of the DL.

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                    • The GipperT The Gipper

                      @mr.-t said:

                      Who knows? Does anyone have a history on the Walrus and his draft selections over the years? That may be a tip on how he likes the draft in the early rounds.

                      I do not believe that Holmgren was making the personell decisions when he was with the Packers. I believe that was Ron Wolfe, so it might be misleading to look at those and apply them to Holmgren's record, though I am sure he had some input.

                      And here, actually, most of the player acquisition is supposed to be made by Heckert, not Holmgren, though again, I am sure he has significant input.

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                      Mr. TM Mr. T wrote on last edited by
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                      @the-gipper said:

                      I do not believe that Holmgren was making the personell decisions when he was with the Packers. I believe that was Ron Wolfe, so it might be misleading to look at those and apply them to Holmgren's record, though I am sure he had some input.

                      And here, actually, most of the player acquisition is supposed to be made by Heckert, not Holmgren, though again, I am sure he has significant input.

                      I was referring to Heckert's tenure with the Eagles according to the Plain Dealer article. They made numerous trades and most of them didn't pan out.

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                        slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by
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                        Hey guys new poster here. First off great site you have here, I have been filling my down time at work reading your posts for a few months now. Ok so here's my take on things. I really think with the 6th pick we will address one of the holes in the front 7 or take peterson or the kid from nebraska. Although I like aj green and jones I don't think wr is the way to go mostly because of the way the cba is shaping up. If there are no mini camps training camp etc. They will not have the time needed to learn the new system or mesh with colt and the coaches. Its a lot easier to have a rookie jump in and learn on the fly on defense as opposed to a wr doing the same. Wouldn't surprise me if we trade down for extra picks either.

                        !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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                          F FearTheRoo wrote on last edited by
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                          mikeyP72 said:

                          No WR on that list.

                          Not surprising...

                          I still have no idea why we believe that position is set? All we got is MoMass and Watson to throw to. You play a team with a good secondary they could double cover those guys all day and we'd be screwed.

                          Don't get me wrong, I think MoMass is great, but he needs help!!!!

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                            N Nw220 wrote on last edited by
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                            Theres no way Peterson falls to us im sorry hes the best player in this draft but if he some how managed to fall to us we'd be foolish not to draft him

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                              mikeyP72 said:

                              No WR on that list.

                              Not surprising...

                              I still have no idea why we believe that position is set? All we got is MoMass and Watson to throw to. You play a team with a good secondary they could double cover those guys all day and we'd be screwed.

                              Don't get me wrong, I think MoMass is great, but he needs help!!!!

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                              @feartheroo said:

                              Not surprising...

                              I still have no idea why we believe that position is set? All we got is MoMass and Watson to throw to. You play a team with a good secondary they could double cover those guys all day and we'd be screwed.

                              Don't get me wrong, I think MoMass is great, but he needs help!!!!

                              No one said we're not drafting a WR, probably just not in the 1st round. And for the millionth time, there IS free agency.

                              And MoMass is great? Have we been watching the same team? He has the potential (not yet achieved) to be a good #2.

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                                I noticed that.

                                We are going to draft Peterson!

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                                nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                                @halfsane said:

                                I noticed that.

                                We are going to draft Peterson!

                                Were going to draft green if hes there...mark it down!

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                                  @halfsane said:

                                  I noticed that.

                                  We are going to draft Peterson!

                                  Were going to draft green if hes there...mark it down!

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                                  @nickers said:

                                  Were going to draft green if hes there...mark it down!

                                  Imagine both Peterson and Green fall to us. That'll be one awesome problem to have, no?

                                  if that does happen, Peterson is too great of a prospect (better than Green) to pass up.

                                  I've already jumped on the Alshon Jeffrey bandwagon. He's a better prospect than AJ Green.

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                                    @nickers said:

                                    Were going to draft green if hes there...mark it down!

                                    Imagine both Peterson and Green fall to us. That'll be one awesome problem to have, no?

                                    if that does happen, Peterson is too great of a prospect (better than Green) to pass up.

                                    I've already jumped on the Alshon Jeffrey bandwagon. He's a better prospect than AJ Green.

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                                    N Nw220 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @secondwave said:

                                    Imagine both Peterson and Green fall to us. That'll be one awesome problem to have, no?

                                    if that does happen, Peterson is too great of a prospect (better than Green) to pass up.

                                    I've already jumped on the Alshon Jeffrey bandwagon. He's a better prospect than AJ Green.

                                    Yeah but Alshon Jeffery will be a top 5 selection next year so unless were picking top 5, i dont see us getting him ethier...Heres hoping Green falls to us which may happen if the Bengals take a QB....Also Justin Blackmon is my guy next year i dont think we'll have a shot at Jeffery

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                                      mikeyP72 said:

                                      No WR on that list.

                                      Not surprising...

                                      I still have no idea why we believe that position is set? All we got is MoMass and Watson to throw to. You play a team with a good secondary they could double cover those guys all day and we'd be screwed.

                                      Don't get me wrong, I think MoMass is great, but he needs help!!!!

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                                      J jnuh wrote on last edited by
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                                      @feartheroo said:

                                      Not surprising...

                                      I still have no idea why we believe that position is set? All we got is MoMass and Watson to throw to. You play a team with a good secondary they could double cover those guys all day and we'd be screwed.

                                      Don't get me wrong, I think MoMass is great, but he needs help!!!!

                                      MoMass and great are 2 words that should never be in the same sentence.

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                                        Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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                                        mikeyP72 said:

                                        MoMass was effective when lined up opposite of Braylon Edwards. He's shown glimpses and can be a solid WR in the NFL if we had more of a passing threat opposite of him...

                                        His numbers weren't entirely too much different. He had about 200 more yards, and one more touchdown against opposing teams #2's. It's a difference, but not anything drastic. I agree, we need a passing threat next to him, I don't think MoMass will ever be a solid #1.

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                                          Momass Will not be a Number 1 reciever in the NFL, but could you imagne adding AJ Green one of his best friends to the roster...I think it would make them only train harder and want to suceed all the more, spend plenty of time developing there game.

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