Gradkowski era to begin on Sunday
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Evidently, stuff like strength of schedule and pro scouting reports have eluded you, rich.
What the fcuk do you think Quinn's numbers and W-L record would have looked like playing a MAC schedule like Grad's?
Come on, man. Get a grip. You may not like Quinn, but claiming Grad is a superior QB based upon his collegiate W-L record is really quite stupid.
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ummmmmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhh, Me thinks Quinn would have lost the MAC championship instead of winning it like 'Grad..........and me thinks we would have what we have.....Mr a number one round pick and a mr two round pick.............who never won shit at any level........
and NOW PRAISE THE LORD BRADY QUINN AND PHIL SEWAGE ARE GOING TO LEAD US TO AT LEAST FIVE SUPER BOWL WINS'
or maybe one winning season...........right now a proven stiff (sewage) and a guy who never won a game against formidable opposition
wtf is wrong wit diss assessment
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Methinks, my ass. Quinn (the all-time leader at Notre Dame in many categories) would have lost in the MAC? This is what you're saying? As a self-professed numbers guy, that assessment should embarrass you. Give me a piece of data, just one, to back this ludicrous assertion. I am an avid Notre Dame hater, by the way.
And we weren't talking about "Sewage" here.
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I think it would be funny if Cribbs played and looked like Steve Young. Do the Browns then give Cribbs a legitimate chance next year?
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Zombo said:
I think Gradkowski will play well, and I'm serious about the Browns winning it, they will.I see us scoring 24. Jamal Lewis is a proud man. He is ninety-some yards from 1,000 and when a team like the Steelers is in a position where they are more concerned with staying healthy than anything else, they can be run on.
The players like Romeo, they know this is his last game and with the Steelers playing some backups and thinking about the playoffs, the Browns will win.
If you look at Gradkowski's stats from 2006, they were pretty similar to leftwich that year. I assume he'll be starting or playing most of the game? Grad will play well, the Browns will run weel, and the Romeo factor will push us over the top.
Then we can hire a real coach and grad can compete to backup Brady next year.
Zombo
I'm doing my festive holiday colors.
The only thing I agree on is- this is Gradowski's audition to be Quinn's backup next year. Dorsey has proved he's not an NFL level backup. I don't totally rule out Anderson coming back at a greatly reduced price, but I seriously doubt it. Someone's going to offer DA stupid money after we cut him loose. All I want for Christmas is a decent coach for the Browns. Cribbs got a broken arm, or something? You'd think they should throw once in awhile out of the flash formation. Oh and I don't share your optimism about beating the Steelers. If they can't beat a lousy team like the Bengals at home, how are they going to beat a decent Steeler team on the road? The Browns have just looked horrendously unmotivated the last couple of games. Bye, Romeo.
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I like Bruce .........he played big in big games in college as opposed to centerfold boy Quinn............
I firmly believe he can give a REAL SHOT become a noteworthy QB in the NFL
but never as worthy as some ........dyh er lineman
And there it goes folks
WE THE BROWNS PAID A FORTUNE FOR OL GUYS GOING NOWHERE
and here is Bruce on the chopping block
Go figure how absolute dumb the mentality can be
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I like Bruce .........he played big in big games in college as opposed to centerfold boy Quinn............
I firmly believe he can give a REAL SHOT become a noteworthy QB in the NFL
but never as worthy as some ........dyh er lineman
And there it goes folks
WE THE BROWNS PAID A FORTUNE FOR OL GUYS GOING NOWHERE
and here is Bruce on the chopping block
Go figure how absolute dumb the mentality can be
I like Bruce .........he played big in big games in college as opposed to centerfold boy Quinn............
Since you ignored me the first time, I'll give you the opportunity to try again, since you're obviously not ready to give it a rest.
I said:
Methinks, my ass. Quinn (the all-time leader at Notre Dame in many categories) would have lost in the MAC? This is what you're saying? As a self-professed numbers guy, that assessment should embarrass you. Give me a piece of data, just one, to back this ludicrous assertion.
Along with some data, please list all of the "big games" Bruce has played in.
Merry Xmas.
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Championships and lighting it up..............Bradkowski did at Toledo.............meanwhile Quinn lost nearly every big game he was in and massacred by OSU and LSU in consecutive bowl games
hope that suffices............I got my evidence show me yours
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes -
Championships and lighting it up..............Bradkowski did at Toledo.............meanwhile Quinn lost nearly every big game he was in and massacred by OSU and LSU in consecutive bowl games
hope that suffices............I got my evidence show me yours
Championships and lighting it up
That's evidence??? C'mon, man. If you don't feel like debating this seriously, just say so.
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We still need another second/third string QB, Gradkowski is a good backup (3rd string most likely but could be a serviceable 2) once DA is gone we need a QB, I'd see if I could barter Troy Smith off of the Ravens
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Championships and lighting it up
That's evidence??? C'mon, man. If you don't feel like debating this seriously, just say so.
mz. said:
That's evidence??? C'mon, man. If you don't feel like debating this seriously, just say so.I can say as well Gradkowski won the MAC almost single handidly in the
Championship Game what has Quinn ever won besides glowing awards for ...........sumtim????????????
and sucking huge in every big game he played in
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Zombo said:
You know, I haven't been around much this year, which was great timing, because I hate these QB soap operas. I hope Quinn takes over next year and keeps the job for 12 years so we have don't have to have any more gay QB controversies.But I have to say that Browns fans, and this board in particular, have been WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY to harsh on Anderson. Maybe you guys just don't like Lumbergh, so you hold it against Anderson. Maybe Anderson's an "outsider" cause he's a West Coast guy or something. But anybody who started for the Browns at QB this year deserves a medal of honor just for getting abused by a horrible surrounding cast that couldn't catch, couldn't run, and had numerous blocking breakdowns.
Anderson was 13-10 as a starter the past two seasons as a former 6th rounder with limited experience. I'm glad he came along. Some of the games like the barn-burner against Cincy last year, the last-second win over Seattle, and the stomping of the Giants this year were the most entertaining games of the new era and Anderson brought a live arm and a great attitude, too.
Not sure why everyone around here hates him. We haven't done any better without him. And we didn't do any better before him.
You have to be kidding. Anderson had one season, and not even that one was a full season where he played well. After the 6th game last season, he started to come back to earth and crashed playing the bungles. He was overrated to begin with and had most of his stats in a few games against teams with very poor records.
I have nothing invested in your team or your QBs except that I would like to have the division be competetive instead of a pushover. Quinn gave you the best chance of that, but your dumbass coach never made the adjustment until it was near the finish for your team. Quinn should have been in by the fifth game you played at the latests. He will be your teams future and if you can get a coach that is not a complete dumbass, you should do well. Considering all the high draft picks and offseason moves, your team should have excelled. Instead they floundered and the buck stops with Romeo. He is the dumbest coach in all of football and was so uninspiring that your team fell worse than ever. He should be ran out of town right before this game.
Sorry, I had to. I seriously expected much more from the browns this year.
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Zombo said:
I think Gradkowski will play well, and I'm serious about the Browns winning it, they will.I see us scoring 24. Jamal Lewis is a proud man. He is ninety-some yards from 1,000 and when a team like the Steelers is in a position where they are more concerned with staying healthy than anything else, they can be run on.
The players like Romeo, they know this is his last game and with the Steelers playing some backups and thinking about the playoffs, the Browns will win.
If you look at Gradkowski's stats from 2006, they were pretty similar to Leftwich that year. I assume he'll be starting or playing most of the game? Grad will play well, the Browns will run well, and the Romeo factor will push us over the top.
Then we can hire a real coach and grad can compete to backup Brady next year.
Zombo
Hahahahahahaha wow that's all I have to say about what you just wrote there. You actually think the Browns after getting shutout by the Bengals and not being able to score a offensive TD since the Monday night game in Buffalo, that they are going to put up 24 points against the Steelers defense who is going to be pissed off and want to avenge a sub-par performance last week against Tennessee?? Wow give me some of that shit you're smokin dude it must be strong.
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Zombo said:
Yes I do. The Browns will score multiple TDs and win the game. I guarantee it.It sure loosened your Mom up.
Zombo
If the Browns somehow do win this game on Sunday like you think they will, I will change my name to I am Zombo's bitch for a whole week on here next week when I post. That's how positively certain I am that the Browns will not win this game. So there you go you have a deal and a bet here hold me too it because if the Browns would win in Pittsburgh Sunday I would have no problem doing it. But the fact of the matter is I dont even have to remotely think about this because the Browns have absolutely positively no chance in hell of winning this game in Pittsburgh on Sunday period.
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Championships and lighting it up..............Bradkowski did at Toledo.............meanwhile Quinn lost nearly every big game he was in and massacred by OSU and LSU in consecutive bowl games
hope that suffices............I got my evidence show me yours
Championships and lighting it up..............Bradkowski did at Toledo.............meanwhile Quinn lost nearly every big game he was in and massacred by OSU and LSU in consecutive bowl games
hope that suffices............I got my evidence show me yours
I picture this guy sounding like Myron Cope when he talks,,,,and thats just downright disgusting!
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Zombo said:
Fag o Steel, I see you still like nothing more than talking out your ass.First of all, I am pro-Quinn. always have been. I was pimping his ass at Notre Dame when Shep was still too moonstruck by Leinart to notice him. Brady Quinn is the future of this franchise, and the future looks damn good at the QB position
But Brady Quinn held out last year and left a window open for Anderson, and he went 10-5 and threw for 29 TDs.
You have that all figured out though, it all happened early, and against bad teams ... well he threw 3 TDs and with no turnovers or sacks against Pittsburgh in Week 10. I guess you think Pittsburgh sucks. Finally we agree on something. He also shredded the Giants this year. Do they suck too?
Listen, I never said the dude wasn't inconsistant, most young QBs are. I'm saying we sucked hard before him and after him. He was not, nor is not, in any way, shape or form, the problem with this football team.
We were 4-13 team before he took over, we are 1-6 since he was benched. When he was the man we were 13-10. There are alot of things to hate about this team. Derek Anderson isn't one of them. He busted his ass, threw 37 TD passes and won games we used to lose.
Listen, we can't run, we can't stop the run, we can't catch easy passes and haven't fielded a real defense since 1994, and we are never going to beat out the Steelers and Ravens until we do. So ragging on Derek Anderson is pointless. It's Quinn's job now and should be. But what's wrong with this franchise has nothing to do with Derek Anderson.
You are a delusional man Zombie.
Yeah, Quinn held out like a dumbass and did lose his starting job. Yeah, Anderson threw for all those TDs. What did that get you? Nothing except an overrated QB for the next season. Anderson threw the majority of those TDs in the first 6 games of your season, and during garbage time of the other games. He went downhill after the midway point of the season and never looked like the QB he was made out to be by his inflated stats. BTW, what did Anderson do in Pittsburgh? It's called a Loss. And his one game against the Giants does not make him a good QB. Every QB in the league can win a game here or there, even against good teams. Anderson WAS the problem with this team along with Romeo. The rest of the problem was because your team gave up. That is also on Anderson, but especially on Romeo. Anderson is the guy who busted his ass and won games you used to lose? When was that? It was for a couple of games, end of story.
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