Gradkowski era to begin on Sunday

? mz.

Methinks, my ass. Quinn (the all-time leader at Notre Dame in many categories) would have lost in the MAC? This is what you're saying? As a self-professed numbers guy, that assessment should embarrass you. Give me a piece of data, just one, to back this ludicrous assertion. I am an avid Notre Dame hater, by the way.

And we weren't talking about "Sewage" here.

Mr. T

Whoever the QB is we should wish them Well!

And Beat the Steelers!!!

Sez.EJ

a 1 game stint does not an ERA make... he will barely be a blip on the screen....

DawgTracker

I think it would be funny if Cribbs played and looked like Steve Young. Do the Browns then give Cribbs a legitimate chance next year?

hoorta

Zombo said:
I think Gradkowski will play well, and I'm serious about the Browns winning it, they will.
I see us scoring 24. Jamal Lewis is a proud man. He is ninety-some yards from 1,000 and when a team like the Steelers is in a position where they are more concerned with staying healthy than anything else, they can be run on.

The players like Romeo, they know this is his last game and with the Steelers playing some backups and thinking about the playoffs, the Browns will win.

If you look at Gradkowski's stats from 2006, they were pretty similar to leftwich that year. I assume he'll be starting or playing most of the game? Grad will play well, the Browns will run weel, and the Romeo factor will push us over the top.

Then we can hire a real coach and grad can compete to backup Brady next year.

Zombo

I'm doing my festive holiday colors. The only thing I agree on is- this is Gradowski's audition to be Quinn's backup next year. Dorsey has proved he's not an NFL level backup. I don't totally rule out Anderson coming back at a greatly reduced price, but I seriously doubt it. Someone's going to offer DA stupid money after we cut him loose. All I want for Christmas is a decent coach for the Browns. Cribbs got a broken arm, or something? You'd think they should throw once in awhile out of the flash formation.

Oh and I don't share your optimism about beating the Steelers. If they can't beat a lousy team like the Bengals at home, how are they going to beat a decent Steeler team on the road? The Browns have just looked horrendously unmotivated the last couple of games. Bye, Romeo.

rich4eagle

I like Bruce .........he played big in big games in college as opposed to centerfold boy Quinn............

I firmly believe he can give a REAL SHOT become a noteworthy QB in the NFL

but never as worthy as some ........dyh er lineman

And there it goes folks

WE THE BROWNS PAID A FORTUNE FOR OL GUYS GOING NOWHERE

and here is Bruce on the chopping block

Go figure how absolute dumb the mentality can be

? mz.

@rich4eagle said:
I like Bruce .........he played big in big games in college as opposed to centerfold boy Quinn............

Since you ignored me the first time, I'll give you the opportunity to try again, since you're obviously not ready to give it a rest.

I said:

Methinks, my ass. Quinn (the all-time leader at Notre Dame in many categories) would have lost in the MAC? This is what you're saying? As a self-professed numbers guy, that assessment should embarrass you. Give me a piece of data, just one, to back this ludicrous assertion.

Along with some data, please list all of the "big games" Bruce has played in.

Merry Xmas.

rich4eagle

Championships and lighting it up..............Bradkowski did at Toledo.............meanwhile Quinn lost nearly every big game he was in and massacred by OSU and LSU in consecutive bowl games

hope that suffices............I got my evidence show me yours

? mz.

@rich4eagle said:
Championships and lighting it up

That's evidence??? C'mon, man. If you don't feel like debating this seriously, just say so.

Furnier

After watching Dorsey play I'd say 3rd string is WIDE open.

I'm cool with Gradkowski nailing that spot down. He toiled in Toledo so he deserves a break.

Meaningless game or not, I hope we destroy Pittshole.

Doug

PlaygroundLegend

We still need another second/third string QB, Gradkowski is a good backup (3rd string most likely but could be a serviceable 2) once DA is gone we need a QB, I'd see if I could barter Troy Smith off of the Ravens

rich4eagle

mz. said:
That's evidence??? C'mon, man. If you don't feel like debating this seriously, just say so.

I can say as well Gradkowski won the MAC almost single handidly in the

Championship Game what has Quinn ever won besides glowing awards for ...........sumtim????????????

and sucking huge in every big game he played in

? mz.

"Losing games against better teams" and "sucking hard in big games" are not the same thing, rich.

And calling MAC Championships "big games" is funny. I fondly remember being glued to my seat during the Buffalo/Ball State game...

Fan Of STEEL 1

Zombo said:
You know, I haven't been around much this year, which was great timing, because I hate these QB soap operas. I hope Quinn takes over next year and keeps the job for 12 years so we have don't have to have any more gay QB controversies.
But I have to say that Browns fans, and this board in particular, have been WAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY to harsh on Anderson. Maybe you guys just don't like Lumbergh, so you hold it against Anderson. Maybe Anderson's an "outsider" cause he's a West Coast guy or something. But anybody who started for the Browns at QB this year deserves a medal of honor just for getting abused by a horrible surrounding cast that couldn't catch, couldn't run, and had numerous blocking breakdowns.

Anderson was 13-10 as a starter the past two seasons as a former 6th rounder with limited experience. I'm glad he came along. Some of the games like the barn-burner against Cincy last year, the last-second win over Seattle, and the stomping of the Giants this year were the most entertaining games of the new era and Anderson brought a live arm and a great attitude, too.

Not sure why everyone around here hates him. We haven't done any better without him. And we didn't do any better before him.

You have to be kidding. Anderson had one season, and not even that one was a full season where he played well. After the 6th game last season, he started to come back to earth and crashed playing the bungles. He was overrated to begin with and had most of his stats in a few games against teams with very poor records.

I have nothing invested in your team or your QBs except that I would like to have the division be competetive instead of a pushover. Quinn gave you the best chance of that, but your dumbass coach never made the adjustment until it was near the finish for your team. Quinn should have been in by the fifth game you played at the latests. He will be your teams future and if you can get a coach that is not a complete dumbass, you should do well. Considering all the high draft picks and offseason moves, your team should have excelled. Instead they floundered and the buck stops with Romeo. He is the dumbest coach in all of football and was so uninspiring that your team fell worse than ever. He should be ran out of town right before this game.

Sorry, I had to. I seriously expected much more from the browns this year.

Holmes10_Ward_86

Zombo said:
I think Gradkowski will play well, and I'm serious about the Browns winning it, they will.
I see us scoring 24. Jamal Lewis is a proud man. He is ninety-some yards from 1,000 and when a team like the Steelers is in a position where they are more concerned with staying healthy than anything else, they can be run on.

The players like Romeo, they know this is his last game and with the Steelers playing some backups and thinking about the playoffs, the Browns will win.

If you look at Gradkowski's stats from 2006, they were pretty similar to Leftwich that year. I assume he'll be starting or playing most of the game? Grad will play well, the Browns will run well, and the Romeo factor will push us over the top.

Then we can hire a real coach and grad can compete to backup Brady next year.

Zombo

Hahahahahahaha wow that's all I have to say about what you just wrote there. You actually think the Browns after getting shutout by the Bengals and not being able to score a offensive TD since the Monday night game in Buffalo, that they are going to put up 24 points against the Steelers defense who is going to be pissed off and want to avenge a sub-par performance last week against Tennessee?? Wow give me some of that shit you're smokin dude it must be strong.

Holmes10_Ward_86

Zombo said:
Yes I do. The Browns will score multiple TDs and win the game. I guarantee it.
It sure loosened your Mom up.

Zombo

If the Browns somehow do win this game on Sunday like you think they will, I will change my name to I am Zombo's bitch for a whole week on here next week when I post. That's how positively certain I am that the Browns will not win this game. So there you go you have a deal and a bet here hold me too it because if the Browns would win in Pittsburgh Sunday I would have no problem doing it. But the fact of the matter is I dont even have to remotely think about this because the Browns have absolutely positively no chance in hell of winning this game in Pittsburgh on Sunday period.

nickers

@rich4eagle said:
Championships and lighting it up..............Bradkowski did at Toledo.............meanwhile Quinn lost nearly every big game he was in and massacred by OSU and LSU in consecutive bowl games
hope that suffices............I got my evidence show me yours

I picture this guy sounding like Myron Cope when he talks,,,,and thats just downright disgusting!

Fan Of STEEL 1

Zombo said:
Fag o Steel, I see you still like nothing more than talking out your ass.
First of all, I am pro-Quinn. always have been. I was pimping his ass at Notre Dame when Shep was still too moonstruck by Leinart to notice him. Brady Quinn is the future of this franchise, and the future looks damn good at the QB position

But Brady Quinn held out last year and left a window open for Anderson, and he went 10-5 and threw for 29 TDs.

You have that all figured out though, it all happened early, and against bad teams ... well he threw 3 TDs and with no turnovers or sacks against Pittsburgh in Week 10. I guess you think Pittsburgh sucks. Finally we agree on something. He also shredded the Giants this year. Do they suck too?

Listen, I never said the dude wasn't inconsistant, most young QBs are. I'm saying we sucked hard before him and after him. He was not, nor is not, in any way, shape or form, the problem with this football team.

We were 4-13 team before he took over, we are 1-6 since he was benched. When he was the man we were 13-10. There are alot of things to hate about this team. Derek Anderson isn't one of them. He busted his ass, threw 37 TD passes and won games we used to lose.

Listen, we can't run, we can't stop the run, we can't catch easy passes and haven't fielded a real defense since 1994, and we are never going to beat out the Steelers and Ravens until we do. So ragging on Derek Anderson is pointless. It's Quinn's job now and should be. But what's wrong with this franchise has nothing to do with Derek Anderson.

You are a delusional man Zombie.

Yeah, Quinn held out like a dumbass and did lose his starting job. Yeah, Anderson threw for all those TDs. What did that get you? Nothing except an overrated QB for the next season. Anderson threw the majority of those TDs in the first 6 games of your season, and during garbage time of the other games. He went downhill after the midway point of the season and never looked like the QB he was made out to be by his inflated stats. BTW, what did Anderson do in Pittsburgh? It's called a Loss. And his one game against the Giants does not make him a good QB. Every QB in the league can win a game here or there, even against good teams. Anderson WAS the problem with this team along with Romeo. The rest of the problem was because your team gave up. That is also on Anderson, but especially on Romeo. Anderson is the guy who busted his ass and won games you used to lose? When was that? It was for a couple of games, end of story.

Fan Of STEEL 1

Zombo said:
So explain why we are 5-14 in games he DIDN'T start the past three years...
Zombo

--HINT: Our defense has ranked 26th, 30th, and 27th the past three years.

Frye sucked ass and obviously Anderson was a better choice at the time. But to say that he is not the problem is like putting your head in the sand. He is the leader of the offense and your offense with him has not only gone downhill since about the 6th game of last season, it completely tanked. As you said, he had a decent game against the Giants, but every dog has his day. That does not make him a good QB, it makes him a very inconsistant QB. The browns as a team quit on him because he was being touted as this great QB, and everyone saw that he was not getting it done when needed. Winning some games is great if that is all you want. Winning the important games, when you HAVE TO late in the game, or need the W to get you into the post season is where it counts. It would have been nice to see your coach make the right choice earlier in the season and put in Quinn to try and spark that offense. It is only my opinion, but I really think the browns waited longer than they should have with Frye, and Romeo did the same thing with Anderson. His decision making had me questioning how the hell he got the job in the first place.

I really do hope that the browns get a good coach and why the hell they are waiting makes no sense. The browns need a new coach that is tough on his players, expects them to perform or benches them, even if they are the big money makers or the popular player. The browns need a coughlin or cowher type of coach to get them to perform. It's not like you don't have the talent on offense and a start of a defense (however, I think the defense is your weakest point).

Anyway, as I said, I want our division to be known as the toughest and we need the browns to step up. The bungles.... god they need more than help. Pathetic team all around.

? Ghoolie

Zombo said:
I'm sure he'll do as well as the other three in that great "cockpit" that we built for our QBs.
Zombo

Over-rated O-line, aging lumbering running back, oft-injured TE, Butter-fingered #1 wideout, absolutely NO #2 wideout ... How Did Derek only win three games?

The O line isn't over rated. we never really have had a bad OL. Offensive Linemen are a dime a dozen, and while the line has to be good as a unit, it isn't that hard to find good fat asses to clog things up.

As ou astutely noted, we have no skilled players on offense and the D is worn out.