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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I was all in favor of taking DL with Browns first pick. The Browns were highly vulnerable against the run, and this guy certainly fills the bill of being a young Shaun Rogers type run stuffer. But a pass rusher definitely needs to be addressed.

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    runyon27R runyon27 wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    I was all in favor of taking DL with Browns first pick. The Browns were highly vulnerable against the run, and this guy certainly fills the bill of being a young Shaun Rogers type run stuffer. But a pass rusher definitely needs to be addressed.

    Yes we do need a pass rusher, more DL help is needed. It looks like the plan the front office has they are going to stop the run and make people pass against us. With Rubin and Taylor clogging the middle it should make running against us a lot harder. Be interesting to see how today shakes out.

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      C ClevelandBigDawg wrote on last edited by
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      DE and a WR today. You can count on that.

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        BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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        My Take - Optimistic but not satisfied.

        Iam worried about the foot problems that Phil has been associated with esp. since Hardesty has been on the same boat. Does us taking him mean we are slowly moving away from Big Baby ? I hoper we do not draft WR's in the second round and just get an established solid one through the free agency. Hopefully we concentrate more on solidifying our Offensive line as far as the Offense side of things goes.

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          My Take - Optimistic but not satisfied.

          Iam worried about the foot problems that Phil has been associated with esp. since Hardesty has been on the same boat. Does us taking him mean we are slowly moving away from Big Baby ? I hoper we do not draft WR's in the second round and just get an established solid one through the free agency. Hopefully we concentrate more on solidifying our Offensive line as far as the Offense side of things goes.

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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @brownindian said:

          My Take - Optimistic but not satisfied.

          Iam worried about the foot problems that Phil has been associated with esp. since Hardesty has been on the same boat. Does us taking him mean we are slowly moving away from Big Baby ? I hoper we do not draft WR's in the second round and just get an established solid one through the free agency. Hopefully we concentrate more on solidifying our Offensive line as far as the Offense side of things goes.

          Shaun Rogers is no longer on the Browns roster, so we are not moving "slowly" away from him. We sprinted away and left him in the dust. In fact, I think he is now on the Saints roster.

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          • WRREBEL WRREBELW
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            WRREBELW WRREBEL wrote on last edited by
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            Listen, our first day couldn't have been better. We got a ton of value with trading with the falcons.

            As a browns fan it is about time we did one of these trades. As fans we always want that sexy pic. This puts our team in great position to add a butt load of talent this year and next..

            Plus, and this isn't what I'm hoping for but let's say colt mccoy doesn't look like he is the guy after this year. This gives us ammunition to go up and get an andrew luck!

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            • WRREBELW WRREBEL

              Listen, our first day couldn't have been better. We got a ton of value with trading with the falcons.

              As a browns fan it is about time we did one of these trades. As fans we always want that sexy pic. This puts our team in great position to add a butt load of talent this year and next..

              Plus, and this isn't what I'm hoping for but let's say colt mccoy doesn't look like he is the guy after this year. This gives us ammunition to go up and get an andrew luck!

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              LoyaltyL Loyalty wrote on last edited by
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              @wrrebel said:

              Listen, our first day couldn't have been better. We got a ton of value with trading with the falcons.

              As a browns fan it is about time we did one of these trades. As fans we always want that sexy pic. This puts our team in great position to add a butt load of talent this year and next..

              Plus, and this isn't what I'm hoping for but let's say colt mccoy doesn't look like he is the guy after this year. This gives us ammunition to go up and get an andrew luck!

              I was afraid of this... I really don't want anything to do with Luck.

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              • BrownIndianB BrownIndian

                My Take - Optimistic but not satisfied.

                Iam worried about the foot problems that Phil has been associated with esp. since Hardesty has been on the same boat. Does us taking him mean we are slowly moving away from Big Baby ? I hoper we do not draft WR's in the second round and just get an established solid one through the free agency. Hopefully we concentrate more on solidifying our Offensive line as far as the Offense side of things goes.

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                Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                @brownindian said:

                My Take - Optimistic but not satisfied.

                Iam worried about the foot problems that Phil has been associated with esp. since Hardesty has been on the same boat. Does us taking him mean we are slowly moving away from Big Baby ? I hoper we do not draft WR's in the second round and just get an established solid one through the free agency. Hopefully we concentrate more on solidifying our Offensive line as far as the Offense side of things goes.

                His foot issues turned out to be false rumors from everything I have heard. Heckert said that not only did the NFL give his foot a clean bill or healthy, but the team doctors found nothing wrong with it after all the x-rays and mri's.

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                  USFBrownU USFBrown wrote on last edited by
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                  The only thing I didn't like about Phil is his Twitter saying "Washington DC/Waco, TX gonna go get that money, ya dig?". To me, that's a big problem. Let's hope the guy has his head and heart in the right place.

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                    M mcbrownies23 wrote on last edited by
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                    yeah heckert seems to like smaller DEs trent cole for example. So I think there just trying to get the biggest wall of meat up the middle they can so they can have those quicker DEs, Justin Houston maybe? he has more of a 34 olb body just like cole did

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                      The only thing I didn't like about Phil is his Twitter saying "Washington DC/Waco, TX gonna go get that money, ya dig?". To me, that's a big problem. Let's hope the guy has his head and heart in the right place.

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                      @usfbrown said:

                      The only thing I didn't like about Phil is his Twitter saying "Washington DC/Waco, TX gonna go get that money, ya dig?". To me, that's a big problem. Let's hope the guy has his head and heart in the right place.

                      Yeah, I couldn't help but notice that watch he was wearing- loan money from an agent? That toy had to cost at least 10 grand.

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                        @wrrebel said:

                        Listen, our first day couldn't have been better. We got a ton of value with trading with the falcons.

                        As a browns fan it is about time we did one of these trades. As fans we always want that sexy pic. This puts our team in great position to add a butt load of talent this year and next..

                        Plus, and this isn't what I'm hoping for but let's say colt mccoy doesn't look like he is the guy after this year. This gives us ammunition to go up and get an andrew luck!

                        I was afraid of this... I really don't want anything to do with Luck.

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                        @loyalty said:

                        I was afraid of this... I really don't want anything to do with Luck.

                        Luck is as close to a sure thing as you get in the NFL.

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                          nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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                          Im dissapointed because there where better players at the pick available on the board and why they took a guy whose a 3 tech stance 3-4 guy made absoluetly no sense whatsover. hes a 3-4 NT not a 4-3 DE/DT. and upon listening to him talk...He sounds like a dumb bag of rocks. Book it "BUST"

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                            Im dissapointed because there where better players at the pick available on the board and why they took a guy whose a 3 tech stance 3-4 guy made absoluetly no sense whatsover. hes a 3-4 NT not a 4-3 DE/DT. and upon listening to him talk...He sounds like a dumb bag of rocks. Book it "BUST"

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                            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                            @nickers said:

                            Im dissapointed because there where better players at the pick available on the board and why they took a guy whose a 3 tech stance 3-4 guy made absoluetly no sense whatsover. hes a 3-4 NT not a 4-3 DE/DT. and upon listening to him talk...He sounds like a dumb bag of rocks. Book it "BUST"

                            You know what: Oddly, I will trust Heckert and Holmgren's judgment on talent evaluation more than I will trust yours. Can you possibly imagine why that would be?

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                              Im dissapointed because there where better players at the pick available on the board and why they took a guy whose a 3 tech stance 3-4 guy made absoluetly no sense whatsover. hes a 3-4 NT not a 4-3 DE/DT. and upon listening to him talk...He sounds like a dumb bag of rocks. Book it "BUST"

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                              Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                              @nickers said:

                              Im dissapointed because there where better players at the pick available on the board and why they took a guy whose a 3 tech stance 3-4 guy made absoluetly no sense whatsover. hes a 3-4 NT not a 4-3 DE/DT. and upon listening to him talk...He sounds like a dumb bag of rocks. Book it "BUST"

                              Considering that he HAS PLAYED IN A 4-3 HIS WHOLE COLLEGE CAREER I think he will do fine. And please name who was a better player to play 4-3 DT at not just 21 but spot 27. There was Cam Jordan, who is too big for a 4-3 DE and too small for a 4-3 DT (not to mention that he never played DT in college so there would be a learning curve) and then there is that dude from Temple who is just 15 pounds lighter that Taylor (but played in a much weaker league against much weaker competition) and then there was Cameron Heyward who could have moved into DT (but he is coming off a serious injury and would still have to put on at least 10 to 20 pounds since he is only like 290). Oh and you know what else I read. Taylor is still losing weight, and Shurmer said that when he shows up to the facility that he is going to tell him to stop losing weight and keep it where it currently is. Cause apparently THEY WANTED A GUY HIS SIZE!!!

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                                slowburnS slowburn wrote on last edited by
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                                gotta agree with the stated mentality on the board regarding Brown's NOT being one player away from division champ/playoffs/super bowl. H & H seem rooted in the reality

                                that the Browns have a multitude of needs in every phase and the quickest way to plug the holes is to bring in as many quality players as possible. I like the trade with

                                ATL and firmly believe it will pay dividends as the Brown's claw their way back to the top of the division.

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                                  @nickers said:

                                  Im dissapointed because there where better players at the pick available on the board and why they took a guy whose a 3 tech stance 3-4 guy made absoluetly no sense whatsover. hes a 3-4 NT not a 4-3 DE/DT. and upon listening to him talk...He sounds like a dumb bag of rocks. Book it "BUST"

                                  You know what: Oddly, I will trust Heckert and Holmgren's judgment on talent evaluation more than I will trust yours. Can you possibly imagine why that would be?

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                                  Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  You know what: Oddly, I will trust Heckert and Holmgren's judgment on talent evaluation more than I will trust yours. Can you possibly imagine why that would be?

                                  Agreed. We are building a DL from inside out. Stuffing the run inside is a priority, not only in our division, but toward allowing our outside guys the freedom to get disruptive. I like the table that is being set & I have complete trust in H, H & Co. This is fun stuff to watch.

                                  Mike

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                                    D DawgTracker wrote on last edited by
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                                    I liked the trade a lot but on the surface it does look like we drafted a 3/4 nose tackle. Usually when a guy is that big he continues to gain weight which means he will soon become an immovable and immobile object, perfect for the 3/4

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