Obamao's Bias Towards Arabs/muslims Sets Israel Up
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In theory the giving back of this land would solve all the Mid East problems. If this did happen, I don't believe giving back the land would be outlandish.
However, I believe these people hate Israel and giving back the land would do little to molify the situation.
I don't believe Obama used good judgment in making these statements to the public.
IMHO, there is no question who Obama favors in this situation. This either shows naivetee (sp) or a true lack of understanding.
John, come on. This is the same outline proposal from the Clinton administration, the Bush administration, and now the Obama administration. How is that evidence that there's "no question who Obama favors" in this situation? By your logic, that means George Bush favored the Palestinians, and so did Bill Clinton. It's not a very good argument.
The reality is that all three of these administrations have favored getting a peace deal in place that creates a Palestinian state, based on the 67 borders, with negotiated tweaks, because we believe it's best for America's security, and for Israel's.
Nobody imagines it's going to "solve all the Mid East problems" or end the hatred of Israel. That's not the goal.
Nobody imagines it's going to "solve all the Mid East problems" or end the hatred of Israel. That's not the goal.
Then what is the goal?
Israel has occupied this land for 44 years and progressives want them to give it back?
Whats next do we give our land back to the native Indians?
It doesn't work like that, if you bring a knife to a gun fight your going to lose.
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I'll wait to engage John/someone more sane.
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John, come on. This is the same outline proposal from the Clinton administration, the Bush administration, and now the Obama administration. How is that evidence that there's "no question who Obama favors" in this situation? By your logic, that means George Bush favored the Palestinians, and so did Bill Clinton. It's not a very good argument. HECK
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BfreakinS.
In fact, the Bush admin sent a letter clearly contradicting Obamao's stupidity, in 1994. There surely has NEVER been a dirtbag "president" who came out
and threw Israel under the bus before. Hell, not even Carter did that.
BTW, Heck, your ignorant, childish personal attacks are boring. Perhaps you should rethink what "intelligent conservation" really means. (Hint: it isn't what
you've been taught by moveonupObamao'sgroin.org)
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Here, Heck, is proof that you are talking out your dumbest orifice:
http://www.zionismontheweb.org/zionism_commentary/Israel_secure_and_recognised_borders.htm
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Come on back at ya Heck.
I was talking about Obama, not Clinton or Bush.
Sometimes it's not what you do but how and when you do it.
I don't believe, unfortunately,that giving back the land would truly ease tensions.
You mentioned the 'goal' and what would be the goal - this would be a learning for me.
PS Just to clarify your statement about my sanity - you did say MORE sane, not sane.
If a third temple is built.........................................
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It isnt' JUST that you are wrong, Heck. It's that you put other people down for opinions you don't share.
Here is another link. If you don't read it, well,
the rest of us will continue to have a intelligent conservation about FACTS and REAL OPINIONS.
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Never mind.
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How about the US stops sending $ to Israel and then they can do whatever they want.
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I meant Philistines Cal.
The region was named after the Israelites sworn enemies by Roman conquerors.
It incorporated most if not all of Jordan.
As long as we want to revert to historical borders.....
WSS
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I'll wait to engage John/someone more sane.
I'll wait to engage John/someone more sane.
In other words you are saying that you will engage John because he will allow you to be a liar and you cannot defend your statements because they are only made up from liberal fantasies.
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How about the US stops sending $ to Israel and then they can do whatever they want. PE
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No. If the US bails on Israel, they will be overrun, and a mideast war would be inevitable,
and all hell would break loose, and, if Obamao isn't president, we'd have to go help them.
How about we quit giving 1.3 billion to Pakistan and several other countries that thumb their nose at us.
Israel has never done that to us, ever.
Israel's very survival is on the line, and the UN won't do squat about Egypt, Syria, Iran and Lebannon declaring war on them,
and going for broke.
And, if Israel must, they will bring out a few nukes, as a last resort.
IOW's, we need to keep helping our huge western friend in Israel.
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I meant Philistines Cal.
The region was named after the Israelites sworn enemies by Roman conquerors.
It incorporated most if not all of Jordan.
As long as we want to revert to historical borders.....
WSS
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Ah. well, it went right past me, bro. I am not worthy. LOL (how ya doin?)
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Never mind. Heck
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Too late for that, Heck. John is abolutely correct, and my links
completely make your bs obviously... bs.
You just can't HANDLE the truth, as usual.
You libs are so seriously lacking in honesty, it's startling,
even when we expect it.
So, I believe it's unanimous - we ALL have taken your partisan hackery and made mincemeat of it, at one time or another.
I'm sure you are better at faking knowing how to dance on a dance floor. You are now nicknamed
"Whiney Dancer".
Or, maybe "He tiptoes through his two lips"
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I meant Philistines Cal.
The region was named after the Israelites sworn enemies by Roman conquerors.
It incorporated most if not all of Jordan.
As long as we want to revert to historical borders.....
WSS
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Ah. well, it went right past me, bro. I am not worthy. LOL (how ya doin?)
I meant Philistines Cal.
The region was named after the Israelites sworn enemies by Roman conquerors.
It incorporated most if not all of Jordan.
As long as we want to revert to historical borders.....
WSS
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Ah. well, it went right past me, bro. I am not worthy. LOL (how ya doin?)
Not bad. I hated to miss opening weekend at the bay but I should be out this morning.
I feel pretty good.
WSS
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So Heck doesn't want to discuss this one with anyone that doesn't just rubber stamp the 67 border?
Why is that?
If, as you say, that won't solve the problem or ease the hatred of Israel, what then does it do?
Show Hamas that's the ticket to success?
What benefit to Netanyahu to make I*srael much less secure?
(and I'm not addressing the "bail opn the Jews faction here, we can discuss that later)
WSS
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Everytime I look at that pic above, I laugh. The truth is also funny. Unless you're a lib wonk, socialist Obamao worshipper, then
you don't have a sense of humor....
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