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  • mikeyP72 said:

    Can a kid that goes straight to Arena League or UFL, enter the NFL at a certain point?

    As I said earlier, it is 3 years out of high school.

    http://www.ehow.com/about_4778601_nfl-draft-eligibility-rules.html

    Player Eligibility

    Football players who have been out of high school for at least three years are eligible for the NFL draft. The rules do not state that a player must attend college, but virtually all of the players selected in the NFL draft played college football. A year as a "redshirt" player in college counts toward eligibility even though the player was not allowed to participate in games during that year. Therefore players who have completed their redshirt sophomore year can enter the NFL draft. A few players are also selected from other football leagues like the Arena Football League or the Canadian Football League.

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  • mikeyP72 said:

    Actually, Ballpeen, that's exactly what it means.

    The system IS flawed and Jim Tressel DID make a critical error.

    Sorry Mike...I just don't buy the flawed argument in this context.

    Can it, should it be changed...that is a valid topic, but using the flaw as a defense isn't germane.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President

    Hillis-iz-Boss said:

    Ya but players make that 200,000 ish grand threw rent and tuition but it still doesn't pay to put cloths on their backs and a lot come from poor families. Yes they should be happy they are getting the education but they are alos being told to dress nice for banquets and shit but then told they have to pay for their own damn suit. I'm just a normal college student and I spent about 2+ grand out of pocket last year just on things like gas and clothes that I needed for school. I'm lucky enough to have a summer job to pay for it while these guys can't be hired by a lot of places in the towns they play for because of the pay for play rule. I think I know of half a dozen guys on the football team at BG who get summer work in the area by bailing hay for 24 hours a week and thats only for about a month of the summer. At the same time even small schools like BGSU make a shit ton of money off of game and merchandise that the players never see. I'm not saying they should make 100,000 grand a year, but 2-3 grand shouldn't be out of the question in just free range do what you want with it money.

    Bullshit. Boo hoo, they come from a poor family, then that should be all the more reason they should understand the value of that scholarship and free room and board. Quit your whining and get to studying.

    @kosar_for_president said:

    Bullshit. Boo hoo, they come from a poor family, then that should be all the more reason they should understand the value of that scholarship and free room and board. Quit your whining and get to studying.

    Well, my son had a free ride in college. That doesn't mean he didn't need money aside from that for food. If a kid has a car, it needs maintenance and fuel and insurance. If he doesn't have a car, there are transportation costs. If a kid wants to go home now and then, there may be high transportation costs if he's not in school near home. How about if we send all of you guys back to college and tell you that you can't date. A kid doesn't "need" a tatoo but haircuts aren't free. To contend that these scholar-athletes don't need money other than that provided by the scholarship is shortsighted. No matter how much pocket money they are given, some of these athletes will abuse the system and want more. That doesn't mean most of them couldn't use a little help to make their budgets more realistic.

    The other thing to remember is that these are kids with undeveloped frontal lobes. Their judgment and impulse control are not well developed. Neither they nor their coaches or atheletic directors should be on the chopping block for relatively minor infractions that are the result of immature behavior. They ARE immature.

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  • It's amazing how people keep finding ways to defend these clowns...

    If this were happening at Michigan OSU fans would be celebrating in the streets.

    Spare me.

  • I agree with this much: If the players are not allowed to sell these trinkets that they receive...which become their personal property...then why the eff do you give them to them? If they are not theirs to do with what they want, don't award them.

    Here is a question: what if they sold their books? Are they allowed to sell their books that are bought for them with their scholarship? Every college student resells their used books. Are athletes not allowed to do that?

    What about anything else they own? Their shoes, their sweaters, their T-shirts, their jock straps?

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I agree with this much: If the players are not allowed to sell these trinkets that they receive...which become their personal property...then why the eff do you give them to them? If they are not theirs to do with what they want, don't award them.

    Here is a question: what if they sold their books? Are they allowed to sell their books that are bought for them with their scholarship? Every college student resells their used books. Are athletes not allowed to do that?

    What about anything else they own? Their shoes, their sweaters, their T-shirts, their jock straps?

    @the-gipper said:

    I agree with this much: If the players are not allowed to sell these trinkets that they receive...which become their personal property...then why the eff do you give them to them? If they are not theirs to do with what they want, don't award them.

    Here is a question: what if they sold their books? Are they allowed to sell their books that are bought for them with their scholarship? Every college student resells their used books. Are athletes not allowed to do that?

    What about anything else they own? Their shoes, their sweaters, their T-shirts, their jock straps?

    They aren't allowed to sell them back. From what I heard Akron's former QB Chris Jacquemain got kicked off the team for this.

    Riffer XR 1 Reply

  • Athletes have to return their books at the end of the semester.

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    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I agree with this much: If the players are not allowed to sell these trinkets that they receive...which become their personal property...then why the eff do you give them to them? If they are not theirs to do with what they want, don't award them.

    Here is a question: what if they sold their books? Are they allowed to sell their books that are bought for them with their scholarship? Every college student resells their used books. Are athletes not allowed to do that?

    What about anything else they own? Their shoes, their sweaters, their T-shirts, their jock straps?

    @the-gipper said:

    I agree with this much: If the players are not allowed to sell these trinkets that they receive... their jock straps?

    um...

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    Athletes have to return their books at the end of the semester.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Athletes have to return their books at the end of the semester.

    I assume that is because unlike all other students they don't pay for their books?

    But here again, it seems different because what you are telling me is that they actually own their own books. Yet they do "own" the trinkets that are given to them.

  • I agree, if the items aren't their own personal property, then why award them with them? Why not store away all awards to be given to the players until the time of graduation or when they leave school?

    If the awards have value, then isn't the NCAA guilty of awarding and benefitting the players for their accomplishments?

  • F FearTheRoo

    @the-gipper said:

    I agree with this much: If the players are not allowed to sell these trinkets that they receive...which become their personal property...then why the eff do you give them to them? If they are not theirs to do with what they want, don't award them.

    Here is a question: what if they sold their books? Are they allowed to sell their books that are bought for them with their scholarship? Every college student resells their used books. Are athletes not allowed to do that?

    What about anything else they own? Their shoes, their sweaters, their T-shirts, their jock straps?

    They aren't allowed to sell them back. From what I heard Akron's former QB Chris Jacquemain got kicked off the team for this.

    @feartheroo said:

    They aren't allowed to sell them back. From what I heard Akron's former QB Chris Jacquemain got kicked off the team for this.

    You heard wrong.

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  • He should've thrown his chair across the room.

    But I agree that if this is their personal property then they can do with it as they will.

    Hell some fans will dig through trash left behind by athletes. Should we sanction that as well?

    Head or Gut?
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