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Flawed argument Vapor. Cal pointed it out in a different way. Pursuing happiness is subject to legal constraints, if not you have anarchy. And marriage is a legal contract, recognized by the state. So gay marriage might not bother you, but it happens to bother plenty of other people, majority rules. Don't like it? Get enough of your like minded brethren to change the rules.
Currently working on it, bro.
Just the way they are? You want to condone psychopathic killers and child rapists? That happens to be the way they are. Extreme example might be someone whose idea of pursuing happiness is getting an AK47 and shooting a former teacher and 30 students that pissed him off. Oh, that's hurting someone else. So then tell me why in MY pursuit of happiness I shouldn't be able to walk down to the local pharmacy and buy about about 30 grams of cocaine, no questions asked?
No, you're an idiot. You're comparing apples to oranges. Their getting married isn't infringing on anyone else's right to life, liberty, or happiness. When you murder someone, guess what? You're infringing on their right to life.
BTW, there's a right way to complain if you don't like the way a mod is running things- and crying over on the main board that your posts are getting deleted ain't it. So yeah, I moved your post- I could have flat out deleted it as inappropriate, but I have a very slow trigger on the delete button. PM or e-mail Atenears- he's the guy in charge.
Hoorta, you can kiss my ass. I messaged Stan a few days ago when they first started editing my posts. He hasn't been online to respond, so I did the next best thing. Don't jump to conclusions, asshole. Just look at how T is parading around his mod powers by changing the topic title and pinning it to the forum. It's like a trophy for him. He doesn't deserve to be the mod, here.
You DO NOT be extremely offensive to someone, out of hate, to hurt them for disagreeing with you,
and to stop them from disagreeing with you.
That's funny cal, because I find it extremely offensive when you tell me that my disagreements are due to my lack of years on you. You're an idiot, too, and so long as you insult me like that, I'm going to keep insulting your blind religious beliefs.
Just the way they are? You want to condone psychopathic killers and child rapists? That happens to be the way they are. Extreme example might be someone whose idea of pursuing happiness is getting an AK47 and shooting a former teacher and 30 students that pissed him off. Oh, that's hurting someone else. So then tell me why in MY pursuit of happiness I shouldn't be able to walk down to the local pharmacy and buy about about 30 grams of cocaine, no questions asked?
No, you're an idiot. You're comparing apples to oranges. Their getting married isn't infringing on anyone else's right to life, liberty, or happiness. When you murder someone, guess what? You're infringing on their right to life.
BTW, there's a right way to complain if you don't like the way a mod is running things- and crying over on the main board that your posts are getting deleted ain't it. So yeah, I moved your post- I could have flat out deleted it as inappropriate, but I have a very slow trigger on the delete button. PM or e-mail Atenears- he's the guy in charge.
Hoorta, you can kiss my ass. I messaged Stan a few days ago when they first started editing my posts. He hasn't been online to respond, so I did the next best thing. Don't jump to conclusions, asshole. Just look at how T is parading around his mod powers by changing the topic title and pinning it to the forum. It's like a trophy for him. He doesn't deserve to be the mod, here.
Hmmm.... I'd suggest you learn how carry on a polite discussion first kiddo- which is why T just might be deleting your posts. FWIW, I've never liked (or agreed with) some of the Topic changing and poster name changing that Stan permits- but it's his board- not mine. I've never intentionally jacked anyone around. If someone's too obnoxious, I go for the outright ISP ban, no sense of dicking around with them.
I've posted this before- so here's a little FYI to anyone who thinks "anything should go" on a forum, as to how the Hoorta became a Mod. Ya see, I'm the late night eyes and ears here. Well Vapor, does Gay Marriage particularly offend me? Not really- but it happens to be a line in the sand that's getting continually pushed in the wrong direction- just MHO. Familiar with the Latin facilis decendus avernus? The road to hell is easy? I've known a lesbian couple for the last 20 years- that I happen to like a lot. However, if they ever decided to "legalize" their union and invite me to their "marriage" I'd have to respectfully decline.
Sorry about my digression- but it will eventually wind up with what happened one night about 2AM after the Browns beat the Jets- and one POed Jets fan thought it would be way cool to show his displeasure after the loss by posting some graphic porn (involving some toilet fun- use your imagination) on the board.
Now if I happened to have mod powers on THIS forum, I'd have 1\2 a mind to start deleting your stuff too. Let's see "idiot", "kiss my ass", "asshole". That's the best you got? My, my, frustrated a tad? Frankly, not very impressed with either your name-calling (you obviously haven't yet learned calling a "customer service rep" -and that would be me- an "asshole" will get you nowhere fast) or your self-perceived mental superiority.
Wah, wah, big bad T is deleting my stuff. (OK, T let the guy have his way- unlock the thread, unpin it, and re-title it- ) Read the above again REAL SLOW go look in a mirror and it MIGHT just possibly sink in why your stuff is getting deleted. It's now TWO mods against (and one you jerked in from another board) so you want to take a wild guess who Stan is going to side with?
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testify to what? that's the first time I've heard that stupid question.
You thnk it's okay because "everybody does it now" ????
really, really moronic. Any of us who are against perversion can accurately be considered
to be innocent of perversion.
But, to go irate about the subject, then be irate about the question of why you'd be irate about the subject...... that's really ignorant.
Actually, "really ignorant" is a huge understatement.....
And Vapor, I've treated you with respect for a good while, even though you keep bringing the stupid subject up.
and then you sent berserk with a wild rant.
If I angrily supported the KKK, wouldn't you wonder if I was a racist?
Vaporized translation response:
"waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I can't win without vicious and vulgar cheapshots like James Harrison, ...wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa "
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I didn't post the button, but T did a nice job. Great timing !
I'm a child? LOL, and yet, I am profoundly far more wise about life than you, and and much, much older, and funny.. whereas you
never have been funny, and you are just droll, boring, and immature, 34 IQuit.
You little squeaky, vulgar, and impish fan of perversion telethons, you..
Have a nice day.
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I didn't post the button, but T did a nice job. Great timing !
I'm a child? LOL, and yet, I am profoundly far more wise about life than you, and and much, much older, and funny.. whereas you
never have been funny, and you are just droll, boring, and immature, 34 IQuit.
You little squeaky, vulgar, and impish fan of perversion telethons, you..
Have a nice day.
I didn't post the button, but T did a nice job. Great timing !
I'm a child? LOL, and yet, I am profoundly far more wise about life than you, and and much, much older, and funny.. whereas you
never have been funny, and you are just droll, boring, and immature, 34 IQuit.
You little squeaky, vulgar, and impish fan of perversion telethons, you..
Have a nice day.
He posted the easy button because he deleted one of my posts. I guess if you can't win a argument it's best to delete the argument.
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testify to what? that's the first time I've heard that stupid question.
You thnk it's okay because "everybody does it now" ????
really, really moronic. Any of us who are against perversion can accurately be considered
to be innocent of perversion.
But, to go irate about the subject, then be irate about the question of why you'd be irate about the subject...... that's really ignorant.
Actually, "really ignorant" is a huge understatement.....
And Vapor, I've treated you with respect for a good while, even though you keep bringing the stupid subject up.
and then you sent berserk with a wild rant.
If I angrily supported the KKK, wouldn't you wonder if I was a racist?
Vaporized translation response:
"waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I can't win without vicious and vulgar cheapshots like James Harrison, ...wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa "
testify to what? that's the first time I've heard that stupid question.
You thnk it's okay because "everybody does it now" ????
really, really moronic. Any of us who are against perversion can accurately be considered
to be innocent of perversion.
But, to go irate about the subject, then be irate about the question of why you'd be irate about the subject...... that's really ignorant.
Actually, "really ignorant" is a huge understatement.....
And Vapor, I've treated you with respect for a good while, even though you keep bringing the stupid subject up.
and then you sent berserk with a wild rant.
If I angrily supported the KKK, wouldn't you wonder if I was a racist?
Vaporized translation response:
"waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I can't win without vicious and vulgar cheapshots like James Harrison, ...wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa "
That all depends on what you consider "perversion" to be. As I said, you can look at the bible and take it literally that oral sex is a sin, or a perversion. Or that sex for any reason other than procreation is a perversion or sin. In God's eyes, all sin is equally bad.
So you can pick and choose which areas of the bible you want to quote in an attempt to tell others how to live their life which is blasphemy, or you can use it correctly; for guidance for the proper way to live your own life and not worry so much about what other people do that have no effect on you.
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True, but I don't tell anybody nothin.
I have my opinions about certain behaviors, and others try to intimidate me and others,
one way or another, into pretending I agree with them.
I just don't. Never will.
The problem with "gay marriage", is that the proponents of that nonsense,
are trying to force it into our collective American faces.
Adam and Eve - God made Eve as a mate for Adam. I didn't tell God to do it, for cryin out loud.
It just is that way. Let's put it this way -
Vaporized brags about a victory in Cali and says two states and 38 to go.
Well, there are at least 38 states with some degree of Castle laws, and they angrily oppose those.
But let us oppose their business, and we get railed, denounced, etc etc etc etc etc.
The libs want gay marriage, marriage to tree stumps, etc, illegal drugs legalized ... "doesn't hurt anybody else"...
but they are strong advocates for unlimited abortions of the unborn, and the murder of unwanted born children.
I say what I believe about the hideous travesty of abortions, and I get enraged libs starting personal attacks.
But if they want to do away with churches and God, and genuine marriage between a man and a woman, why, you
had better not disagree with them or the personal attacks come out....
Yeah, I don't get stupidity and hypocrisy.
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Hey, I agree with legalizing mary jane, as long as there is a real, long-term study that says it does not affect reproductive health. I don't buy any the BS that legalization proponents spew out about how great it is, how it's non-addictive, and saved their dog's best friends master's wife's sister. Some real, unbiased studies need to be done.
Just think of the taxes the Gov't could collect by regulating it rather than banning it.
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The problem with "gay marriage", is that the proponents of that nonsense,
are trying to force it into our collective American faces.
And gay marriage being legalized will affect you... how?
My rule of thumb is that you should be allowed your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, if and only if it does not infringe on others' rights to the same thing. Gay marriage does not infringe on any of that.
The libs want gay marriage, marriage to tree stumps, etc, illegal drugs legalized ... "doesn't hurt anybody else"...
Way to keep putting gays on the same level as inanimate objects. Gays getting married doesn't hurt anybody else.
but they are strong advocates for unlimited abortions of the unborn, and the murder of unwanted born children.
Abortion is a separate topic, but where we disagree is the point at which an embryo becomes a human. It's not murder in my eyes, and let's face it, if it were made illegal, we'd be back to the days where butchers and doctors would have backdoor abortion businesses.
But if they want to do away with churches and God, and genuine marriage between a man and a woman, why, you had better not disagree with them or the personal attacks come out....
Wrong. The personal attacks come out because you consistently attribute my strongly held beliefs on atheism and such as being naive and childish. Guess what, Cal, that's a personal attack. I find that just as offensive as you find my calling the Bible a stone age book of myths. Quit pretending you're on some higher moral or argumentative standing than I am. You're name-calling, and you don't like it when I call you names back.
Yeah, I don't get stupidity and hypocrisy.
It's funny because you're a shining example of both.
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And gay marriage being legalized will affect you... how?
My rule of thumb is that you should be allowed your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, if and only if it does not infringe on others' rights to the same thing. Gay marriage does not infringe on any of that.
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Baloney, It devastes society's right to protect itself from destructive forces. Meaning, parents should have the right to teach their children
that marriage is between a man and a woman, and society should have the same right to establish that as a fundemental law.
You characters insist on destroying those parents rights, destroying the teaching of most churches, and destroying
the institution of matrimony.
Doesrn't effect anything? Come on..... it openly slaps parents and churches and natural law... in their collective faces.
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Abortion is a separate topic, but where we disagree is the point at which an embryo becomes a human. It's not murder in my eyes, and let's face it, if it were made illegal, we'd be back to the days where butchers and doctors would have backdoor abortion businesses.
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Baloney. That's like saying we should legalize rape because it continues to happen and we can't make rapes completely stop.
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Wrong. The personal attacks come out because you consistently attribute my strongly held beliefs on atheism and such as being naive and childish. Guess what, Cal, that's a personal attack. I find that just as offensive as you find my calling the Bible a stone age book of myths. Quit pretending you're on some higher moral or argumentative standing than I am. You're name-calling, and you don't like it when I call you names back.
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Guess what, I never personally attack someone unless they start their crap, which you did. It's really inane for you to blame your previous crap.
You have openly dissed God and the Bible and Christians in a pretty notable way. And I never once was offensively attacking you, not ever. None of us did.
But you libs are so arrogant, that you break rules when YOU decide you can break them, along with your childish rationalizations... and you all turn on a dime to demand
that others not be allowed to break the rules.
Exactly like: The Dems were solidly against raising the debt limit under Bush.... but are solidly FOR it now that Obamao is in there. It benefitted them to take one stance,
then later it benefitted them to take the opposite stance. Liberals all LIVE this way. They emote. They don't adhere to time and heart forged principles as guidelines
for living.
With them, self benefit, financially and emotionally, are what guides them. Which freakin changes any freakin time they want it to.
The trouble you have, Vaporized, along with most other libs - is a complete lack of principle. Whatever you emotionally decide for yourselves, that's what everybody else
had better be deciding.
The further trouble is - that when your emotions change, and the shoe in on the other foot, you all reverse yourselves and take the opposite view on an issue because
the emotions are different..
on the crap you received after the fact --- You're just PO'd that you aren't allowed to repeatedly kick those who disagree with you below the belt, and you aren't allowed to
bite their ear off, in online discussion board terms. Your extremely grotesque and offensive outbursts have never called for. And there was was no excuse for it.
NONE. that's why your viscious blurts were censored. If you don't know the difference, really, then stop bragging about your IQ and your science ... because you contradict yourself.
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