Andrew Luck Sweepstakes?
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Yeah next2nothing,
I'm just extremely frustrated. Cause I agree we shouldn't just go out and sign players ro sign players. But I thought we would be involved with at least mid tier free agents.
I mean you sign guys who fit your scheme or can be a starter. I don't think s rice would have been a good fit either, but this is the second off season where were passing over glaring needs.
Every other team is the league with the exception of us and the bengals are making moves, improving there roster.
Now I see we don't actually have to spend the min for the salary cap until 2013..
My theory is this, you have money to spend. People ar right we aren't going to be a superbowl contender this year and at the rate were addking talent wee won't be a play off contender in 5 years..
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Not the only one with this line of thinking
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youve stated a bunch of problems other than QB....so how is getting a rookie QB going to help everything you just said lol...id rather have colt anyway
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Ok so your saying that robiske and momass have huge years??? Your saying the lock out doesn't hurt our new schemes?? Your saying greg little, bucks all odds and has a huge impact as a rookie wr??
Your saying we aren't depending on our 2 rookie dlineman to have a huge impact???
I think you are being a complete "glass half empty" kind of guy. To say that the Browns could be in the hunt for the worst record in the league, I think, is absurd. I am not saying the Browns will probably be in the playoff hunt either. They will probably be stuck in the middle somewhere. They may get off to a rough start.....but look at our first opponent.
The Bengals are FAR more likely to be a frontrunner for the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes than the Browns.
I think you are being a complete "glass half empty" kind of guy. To say that the Browns could be in the hunt for the worst record in the league, I think, is absurd. I am not saying the Browns will probably be in the playoff hunt either. They will probably be stuck in the middle somewhere. They may get off to a rough start.....but look at our first opponent.
The Bengals are FAR more likely to be a frontrunner for the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes than the Browns.
Las Vegas doesn't think it's that absurd, The Browns being stuck in the middle so i'm guessing that is an 8-8 record i think you might need to not drink jesus juice before you get on and post. I don't think we will be andrew luck bound anyways even if we had the first pick in next years draft.
Realistically the browns are still a 5-11 to 6-10 team and best case scenerio everything goes right 7-9 we won't compete within our division for another 3 years with a draft only system and dramatic changes to the Ravens and Steelers rosters.
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I think you are being a complete "glass half empty" kind of guy. To say that the Browns could be in the hunt for the worst record in the league, I think, is absurd. I am not saying the Browns will probably be in the playoff hunt either. They will probably be stuck in the middle somewhere. They may get off to a rough start.....but look at our first opponent.
The Bengals are FAR more likely to be a frontrunner for the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes than the Browns.
Las Vegas doesn't think it's that absurd, The Browns being stuck in the middle so i'm guessing that is an 8-8 record i think you might need to not drink jesus juice before you get on and post. I don't think we will be andrew luck bound anyways even if we had the first pick in next years draft.
Realistically the browns are still a 5-11 to 6-10 team and best case scenerio everything goes right 7-9 we won't compete within our division for another 3 years with a draft only system and dramatic changes to the Ravens and Steelers rosters.
Las Vegas doesn't think it's that absurd, The Browns being stuck in the middle so i'm guessing that is an 8-8 record i think you might need to not drink jesus juice before you get on and post. I don't think we will be andrew luck bound anyways even if we had the first pick in next years draft.
Realistically the browns are still a 5-11 to 6-10 team and best case scenerio everything goes right 7-9 we won't compete within our division for another 3 years with a draft only system and dramatic changes to the Ravens and Steelers rosters.
Vegas predicts us to go 7-9 next year. That's one game away from "stuck in the middle". I guess Vegas should stop drinking the Kool-Aid, or Jesus Juice, or whatever it is you want to call it.
There have been no drastic changes to the Steelers or Ravens rosters this offeseason.
The Steelers lost TE Matt Spaeth, WR Antonio Randle-El, OT Flozell Adams, OT Max Starks and DE Nick Eason. They resigned OT Willie Colon, OT John Scott, CB Ike "I beat my wife" Taylor, and K Shaun Suisham, and signed 20 UDFA's. The only possible big name acquisition on the radar at the moment would be resigning Plaxico Burress, who's in Pittsburgh today for a meeting.
The Ravens released OG Chris Chester, RB Willis McGahee, WR Derrick Mason, TE Todd Heap, DT Kelly Gregg, OT Jared Gaither, S Dawan Landry, WR Donte Stallworth, and CB Josh Wilson. They resigned OG Marshall Yanda, and signed 26 UDFA's.
Neither team has been active in Free Agency signings. We've signed more FA's from other teams than they have combined.
Realistically, everything you say is complete bullshit.
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I think Andrew Luck should've come out this year, because he will not be the number #1 pick this year, nor the #1 QB taken off the boards. Playing football presents a high risk of injury, missing 2-3 weeks with even a minor injury will cause one's stock to fall. Second Luck will be playing under a new coach and a new system, that projects his numbers will not look as good. Third, there's bound to be 1-2 QBs who put up better stats to become next year's media darlings, ala Vince Young or Jamarcus Russell. In all, I think Luck will be a solid pick at QB for whoever gets him, unlike Lienart. But like Lienart, when you have the chance to go #1 overall, you shouldn't pass on it. My prediction is Luck will fall to the Browns with a pick between 10-15, but then again I don't profess to be psychic.
Endymion said:
I think Andrew Luck should've come out this year, because he will not be the number #1 pick this year, nor the #1 QB taken off the boards. Playing football presents a high risk of injury, missing 2-3 weeks with even a minor injury will cause one's stock to fall. Second Luck will be playing under a new coach and a new system, that projects his numbers will not look as good. Third, there's bound to be 1-2 QBs who put up better stats to become next year's media darlings, ala Vince Young or Jamarcus Russell. In all, I think Luck will be a solid pick at QB for whoever gets him, unlike Lienart. But like Lienart, when you have the chance to go #1 overall, you shouldn't pass on it. My prediction is Luck will fall to the Browns with a pick between 10-15, but then again I don't profess to be psychic.
I would probably make a major wager with you that Luck does not fall to between 10-15. Hell, he could get hurt and miss this entire upcoming season and I bet he would be taken in the top 5.
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I think Andrew Luck should've come out this year, because he will not be the number #1 pick this year, nor the #1 QB taken off the boards. Playing football presents a high risk of injury, missing 2-3 weeks with even a minor injury will cause one's stock to fall. Second Luck will be playing under a new coach and a new system, that projects his numbers will not look as good. Third, there's bound to be 1-2 QBs who put up better stats to become next year's media darlings, ala Vince Young or Jamarcus Russell. In all, I think Luck will be a solid pick at QB for whoever gets him, unlike Lienart. But like Lienart, when you have the chance to go #1 overall, you shouldn't pass on it. My prediction is Luck will fall to the Browns with a pick between 10-15, but then again I don't profess to be psychic.
Endymion said:
I think Andrew Luck should've come out this year, because he will not be the number #1 pick this year, nor the #1 QB taken off the boards. Playing football presents a high risk of injury, missing 2-3 weeks with even a minor injury will cause one's stock to fall. Second Luck will be playing under a new coach and a new system, that projects his numbers will not look as good. Third, there's bound to be 1-2 QBs who put up better stats to become next year's media darlings, ala Vince Young or Jamarcus Russell. In all, I think Luck will be a solid pick at QB for whoever gets him, unlike Lienart. But like Lienart, when you have the chance to go #1 overall, you shouldn't pass on it. My prediction is Luck will fall to the Browns with a pick between 10-15, but then again I don't profess to be psychic.
Bradford went #1 overall despite the fact he was injured his whole senior year. And he's an inferior prospect in comparison to Andrew Luck.
Trust me, there's no way in hell (especially with the cap on rookie contracts) that Luck drops out of the top 3. Barring Barkley makes quantam leaps in his development this year, Luck isn't getting pushed out of that top spot.
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Endymion said:
I think Andrew Luck should've come out this year, because he will not be the number #1 pick this year, nor the #1 QB taken off the boards. Playing football presents a high risk of injury, missing 2-3 weeks with even a minor injury will cause one's stock to fall. Second Luck will be playing under a new coach and a new system, that projects his numbers will not look as good. Third, there's bound to be 1-2 QBs who put up better stats to become next year's media darlings, ala Vince Young or Jamarcus Russell. In all, I think Luck will be a solid pick at QB for whoever gets him, unlike Lienart. But like Lienart, when you have the chance to go #1 overall, you shouldn't pass on it. My prediction is Luck will fall to the Browns with a pick between 10-15, but then again I don't profess to be psychic.
Bradford went #1 overall despite the fact he was injured his whole senior year. And he's an inferior prospect in comparison to Andrew Luck.
Trust me, there's no way in hell (especially with the cap on rookie contracts) that Luck drops out of the top 3. Barring Barkley makes quantam leaps in his development this year, Luck isn't getting pushed out of that top spot.
Bradford went #1 overall despite the fact he was injured his whole senior year. And he's an inferior prospect in comparison to Andrew Luck.
Trust me, there's no way in hell (especially with the cap on rookie contracts) that Luck drops out of the top 3. Barring Barkley makes quantam leaps in his development this year, Luck isn't getting pushed out of that top spot.
I wouldn't be that high on Barkley. I think he is overrated simply because he goes to USC.
Landry Jones, Ryan Tannenhill, Kellen Moore could all be better.
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This year im not really expecting much other than to see this team successfully plant the seeds that sprout the roots of a winner..
I like most fans am always aware that in the nfl any team can rise from nowhere to win it all and like many other browns fans i am always hoping to see this happen but if it doesnt its no big deal as long as certain key things develop and appear workable for the future..
Regardless of what some think heckert is loading this team with talented youth and at the end of the day i am willing to bet we wont even be close to being in the race for andrew luck, im honestly thinking 6-10 as a worse case scenario..
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I don't get the lack of any moves.. heckerts ego is going to cost us... he thinks he can build through the draft alone... well in that case he better start hitting on his 4th, 5th and 6th rd picks and make sure his 2nd rd picks aren't mr glass (hardesty)
I'm still a little confused cause when heckert was
in philly they signed players, terrel owens, asante samuel ect...
And holgrem is seatlle didn't hestitate to sign players..
I don't get the lack of any moves.. heckerts ego is going to cost us... he thinks he can build through the draft alone... well in that case he better start hitting on his 4th, 5th and 6th rd picks and make sure his 2nd rd picks aren't mr glass (hardesty)
I'm still a little confused cause when heckert was
in philly they signed players, terrel owens, asante samuel ect...
And holgrem is seatlle didn't hestitate to sign players..
It helps when there is a moderate amount of good talent already there....
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