Phil Savage fired
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Savage didnt hire Crennel...Lerner did....
I think that is one thing that hurt us that the GM did not get to hire the coach he wanted, or at least try and get the coach he wanted, being the fact that we were hiring both that year anyway. I do not want to make that mistake again. We need a true team in their not a fake one.
I think that is one thing that hurt us that the GM did not get to hire the coach he wanted, or at least try and get the coach he wanted, being the fact that we were hiring both that year anyway. I do not want to make that mistake again. We need a true team in their not a fake one.
I totally agree
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while savage isn't a great PR guy, he's a decent evaluator of talent who makes moves to get the players the team needs. we should have found a way to keep him on as director of player personnel or director of scouting.
and crennel absolutely killed savage's tenure here. the last six games have been some of the worst football i've ever watched sixteen minutes of.
while savage isn't a great PR guy, he's a decent evaluator of talent who makes moves to get the players the team needs. we should have found a way to keep him on as director of player personnel or director of scouting.
and crennel absolutely killed savage's tenure here. the last six games have been some of the worst football i've ever watched sixteen minutes of.
Don't blame Crennel for ruining Savage's tenure, Savage could have either fired Crennel or quit at ANY TIME but he stuck with Romeo.
He made his bed and this is what he deserves.
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The majors probably won't report it, roach, until it is proven 100%, but the rumor mills are running wild...
mz. said:
The majors probably won't report it, roach, until it is proven 100%, but the rumor mills are running wild...Thanks. This rumor may eventually turn out to be true, but if it already happened, the majors would have the story (and WTAM would have put it on their own website). i'm not buying that it has happened until i see it from a source that i've heard of. BTW, there is no business reason or fan reason for the Browns to keep this story off their own website (if it really already happened).
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PFT put out a somewhat unnecessary update:
SAVAGE FIRED
Posted by Mike Florio on December 28, 2008, 6:31 p.m.
We heard a couple of hours ago that G.M. Phil Savage is out in Cleveland.
We’re now told that Savage was fired.
It’s likely only a matter of time until coach Romeo Crennel joins him — unless owner Randy Lerner quickly hires Pats V.P. of player personnel Scott Pioli, and if Pioli then decides to find a way to keep Crennel on the staff.
If the Dolphins defeat the Jets and barring a collapse of epic proportions by the Ravens against the Jaguars, the Patriots will be shut out of the playoffs, which would put Pioli immediately in play to be interviewed and hired for a job that gives him final say over personnel.
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AP just made it official: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/12/28/...owns-Savage.php
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The new GM will be.................RAC
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WTAM confirms that Phil is GONE
They are the ones that reported last week that Lerner curtailed all his recruiting trips to the bowl games.
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PFT alluded to the possibility that Crennel's fate may be decided by the new GM. I know alot of people will get their panties in a bunch if RAC doesn't get canned by Wednesday, but it may be left to the new GM to decide if RAC stays or goes...in whatever capacity.
-Al
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It seems Phil will get a job somewhere. His resume isn't that bad.
His 10 Pro Bowl players in Baltimore: tackle Jonathan Ogden, linebacker Ray Lewis, receiver Jermaine Lewis, linebacker Peter Boulware, defensive back Chris McAlister, running back Jamal Lewis, linebacker Adalius Thomas, tight end Todd Heap, safety Ed Reed and linebacker Terrell Suggs.
His 8 Pro Bowl players in Cleveland: long snapper Ryan Pontbriand, special teams Joshua Cribbs, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, left tackle Joe Thomas, QB Derek Anderson, TE Kellen Winslow. DT Shaun Rogers and LT Joe Thomas are both going to the Pro Bowl in '09, then Josh Cribbs was selected as first alternate for return and special teams utility, Phil Dawson was selected as a second alternate, and linebacker D'Qwell Jackson and left guard Eric Steinbach were named as third alternates.
Prior to Phil, Jamir Miller in 2002 was the only Browns Pro Bowler since they came back in '99.
To me, the cornerstone of his downfall was not getting anything for DA earlier this year.
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i just found the report on FOX Sports.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8997948...ter-4-12-season
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Reghi was saying this right after the game on WKNR. He said sources out of Pittsburgh said he's gone. RAC hasn't been determined yet, he said after the game he will find out tomorrow.
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It seems Phil will get a job somewhere. His resume isn't that bad.
His 10 Pro Bowl players in Baltimore: tackle Jonathan Ogden, linebacker Ray Lewis, receiver Jermaine Lewis, linebacker Peter Boulware, defensive back Chris McAlister, running back Jamal Lewis, linebacker Adalius Thomas, tight end Todd Heap, safety Ed Reed and linebacker Terrell Suggs.
His 8 Pro Bowl players in Cleveland: long snapper Ryan Pontbriand, special teams Joshua Cribbs, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, left tackle Joe Thomas, QB Derek Anderson, TE Kellen Winslow. DT Shaun Rogers and LT Joe Thomas are both going to the Pro Bowl in '09, then Josh Cribbs was selected as first alternate for return and special teams utility, Phil Dawson was selected as a second alternate, and linebacker D'Qwell Jackson and left guard Eric Steinbach were named as third alternates.
Prior to Phil, Jamir Miller in 2002 was the only Browns Pro Bowler since they came back in '99.
To me, the cornerstone of his downfall was not getting anything for DA earlier this year.
His 8 Pro Bowl players in Cleveland: long snapper Ryan Pontbriand, special teams Joshua Cribbs, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, left tackle Joe Thomas, QB Derek Anderson, TE Kellen Winslow. DT Shaun Rogers and LT Joe Thomas are both going to the Pro Bowl in '09, then Josh Cribbs was selected as first alternate for return and special teams utility, Phil Dawson was selected as a second alternate, and linebacker D'Qwell Jackson and left guard Eric Steinbach were named as third alternates.
winslow and pontbriand were drafted by butch davis, and dawson has been here since chris palmer.
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Well....I just hope we're all prepared for the 3-4 year rebuilding period. Doesn't matter who the new guy is, but there is always 2-3 years of no accountability under new management. You got what you wished for.
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Well....I just hope we're all prepared for the 3-4 year rebuilding period. Doesn't matter who the new guy is, but there is always 2-3 years of no accountability under new management. You got what you wished for.
Well....I just hope we're all prepared for the 3-4 year rebuilding period. Doesn't matter who the new guy is, but there is always 2-3 years of no accountability under new management. You got what you wished for.
Stupid is staying with proven failures. This needed to happen just like Butch Davis needed to go.
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Miami wins...Pats don't make playoffs...Pioli & McDaniels available for interviews/hiring.
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