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  • PFT put out a somewhat unnecessary update:

    SAVAGE FIRED

    Posted by Mike Florio on December 28, 2008, 6:31 p.m.

    We heard a couple of hours ago that G.M. Phil Savage is out in Cleveland.

    We’re now told that Savage was fired.

    It’s likely only a matter of time until coach Romeo Crennel joins him — unless owner Randy Lerner quickly hires Pats V.P. of player personnel Scott Pioli, and if Pioli then decides to find a way to keep Crennel on the staff.

    If the Dolphins defeat the Jets and barring a collapse of epic proportions by the Ravens against the Jaguars, the Patriots will be shut out of the playoffs, which would put Pioli immediately in play to be interviewed and hired for a job that gives him final say over personnel.

  • @ pl4tinum: good point about savage being able to fire crennel whenever he wanted. but, before this season, how do you fire a guy who just went 10-6 and was the surprise of the league?

  • The new GM will be.................RAC

  • WTAM confirms that Phil is GONE

    @listercat said:

    WTAM confirms that Phil is GONE

    They are the ones that reported last week that Lerner curtailed all his recruiting trips to the bowl games.

  • PFT alluded to the possibility that Crennel's fate may be decided by the new GM. I know alot of people will get their panties in a bunch if RAC doesn't get canned by Wednesday, but it may be left to the new GM to decide if RAC stays or goes...in whatever capacity.

    -Al

  • The new GM will be.................RAC

    @lumbergh said:

    The new GM will be.................RAC

    I guess now that the DA talk is dead, all you're left with is stupid jokes.

  • It seems Phil will get a job somewhere. His resume isn't that bad.

    His 10 Pro Bowl players in Baltimore: tackle Jonathan Ogden, linebacker Ray Lewis, receiver Jermaine Lewis, linebacker Peter Boulware, defensive back Chris McAlister, running back Jamal Lewis, linebacker Adalius Thomas, tight end Todd Heap, safety Ed Reed and linebacker Terrell Suggs.

    His 8 Pro Bowl players in Cleveland: long snapper Ryan Pontbriand, special teams Joshua Cribbs, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, left tackle Joe Thomas, QB Derek Anderson, TE Kellen Winslow. DT Shaun Rogers and LT Joe Thomas are both going to the Pro Bowl in '09, then Josh Cribbs was selected as first alternate for return and special teams utility, Phil Dawson was selected as a second alternate, and linebacker D'Qwell Jackson and left guard Eric Steinbach were named as third alternates.

    Prior to Phil, Jamir Miller in 2002 was the only Browns Pro Bowler since they came back in '99.

    To me, the cornerstone of his downfall was not getting anything for DA earlier this year.

  • i just found the report on FOX Sports.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8997948...ter-4-12-season

  • Reghi was saying this right after the game on WKNR. He said sources out of Pittsburgh said he's gone. RAC hasn't been determined yet, he said after the game he will find out tomorrow.

  • Just came on ESPN News they are both fired and out of here!!!!!

    EDIT: Crennel has not been officially fired, yet.

  • It seems Phil will get a job somewhere. His resume isn't that bad.

    His 10 Pro Bowl players in Baltimore: tackle Jonathan Ogden, linebacker Ray Lewis, receiver Jermaine Lewis, linebacker Peter Boulware, defensive back Chris McAlister, running back Jamal Lewis, linebacker Adalius Thomas, tight end Todd Heap, safety Ed Reed and linebacker Terrell Suggs.

    His 8 Pro Bowl players in Cleveland: long snapper Ryan Pontbriand, special teams Joshua Cribbs, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, left tackle Joe Thomas, QB Derek Anderson, TE Kellen Winslow. DT Shaun Rogers and LT Joe Thomas are both going to the Pro Bowl in '09, then Josh Cribbs was selected as first alternate for return and special teams utility, Phil Dawson was selected as a second alternate, and linebacker D'Qwell Jackson and left guard Eric Steinbach were named as third alternates.

    Prior to Phil, Jamir Miller in 2002 was the only Browns Pro Bowler since they came back in '99.

    To me, the cornerstone of his downfall was not getting anything for DA earlier this year.

    @oconrecon said:

    His 8 Pro Bowl players in Cleveland: long snapper Ryan Pontbriand, special teams Joshua Cribbs, wide receiver Braylon Edwards, left tackle Joe Thomas, QB Derek Anderson, TE Kellen Winslow. DT Shaun Rogers and LT Joe Thomas are both going to the Pro Bowl in '09, then Josh Cribbs was selected as first alternate for return and special teams utility, Phil Dawson was selected as a second alternate, and linebacker D'Qwell Jackson and left guard Eric Steinbach were named as third alternates.

    winslow and pontbriand were drafted by butch davis, and dawson has been here since chris palmer.

  • Just saw it to, well i guess that's a start.

  • New GM, new coach, top-5 draft pick...now this is a Browns offseason I'm used to. 🙂

  • Well....I just hope we're all prepared for the 3-4 year rebuilding period. Doesn't matter who the new guy is, but there is always 2-3 years of no accountability under new management. You got what you wished for.

  • Well....I just hope we're all prepared for the 3-4 year rebuilding period. Doesn't matter who the new guy is, but there is always 2-3 years of no accountability under new management. You got what you wished for.

    @d531 said:

    Well....I just hope we're all prepared for the 3-4 year rebuilding period. Doesn't matter who the new guy is, but there is always 2-3 years of no accountability under new management. You got what you wished for.

    Stupid is staying with proven failures. This needed to happen just like Butch Davis needed to go.

  • Miami wins...Pats don't make playoffs...Pioli & McDaniels available for interviews/hiring.

  • Miami wins...Pats don't make playoffs...Pioli & McDaniels available for interviews/hiring.

    Aloysius said:

    Miami wins...Pats don't make playoffs...Pioli & McDaniels available for interviews/hiring.

    Please Mr Lerner, please get this done.

  • The new GM will be.................RAC

    @lumbergh said:

    The new GM will be.................RAC

    The same RAC who does not play young players, the same RAC who has not developed one young player, the same RAC who prefers washed up vets

    I have had enough of RAC.........Please no RAC has a defensive coordinator........What has this defense done that Randy Lerner or anyone with a brain would want RAC as the defensive coordinator unless you want to see more prevent defenses and safties playing 20 yards deep and corners 10 yards off the ball.

    Please lets make this the end of Romeo Crennell.........did the Patriots miss a beat without Romeo.....that was Belicheks defense that Romeo was running, we have seen enough of RAC defenses......TIME FOR A CHANGE

    We need a new defensive approach, we need a attacking kick butt defense and you won't get that with RAC Mr. Conservative

  • Tony Grossi chimes in:

    Owner Randy Lerner made the decision prior to the game. A source said the decision was based on problems with Savage's communication and leadership skills.

    Lerner is hoping to recruit former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher or New England vice president Scott Pioli to head his revamped football operation. According to a source, Lerner was absent from the game because he was lining up a busy week of interviews this week.

    He is expected to meet face-to-face this week with Cowher, who has been telling everyone that he does not intend to return to coaching in 2009.

    Lerner also could do personal interviews with a couple of NFL assistant coaches to comply with the league's mandate to interview at least one minority for a head coaching vacancy. The Browns may interview Buffalo defensive coordinator Perry Fewell and Washington defensive coordinator Greg Blache.

    The Browns also want to interview New York Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo in the "window" allotted by the NFL with the Giants on a postseason bye week.