Julio Jones
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i think we have ok linemen a couple are questionable and we need to make it better............. our defense is ok we need time to gel .... get used to what we wanna do... the 4-3...but we do need more playmakers on d.............but the bottom line is that we have no weapons on offense mccoy is in the proccess of being good but he need help as far as weapons ......and thats that
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Hillis-iz-Boss said:
This guy here has been on the forum for almost a month now! How are those FA standouts doing for the Eagles. Last time I checked we still had a better record than them. At least we lost to the Titans who came in with the #1 defense in the NFL, not the xxxxing 49'ers.
Your just unreal man........Eagles would beat us by 30
Top tier teams have playmakers n lots of them..........its plain n simple
im not trying to hear it from you complacent browns fans who want to keep drafting DT n OL'men..........thats our problem......lets be a threat out there on offense for a change
Your just unreal man........Eagles would beat us by 30
Top tier teams have playmakers n lots of them..........its plain n simple
im not trying to hear it from you complacent browns fans who want to keep drafting DT n OL'men..........thats our problem......lets be a threat out there on offense for a change
They might steam role us but the dream team is still losing games that they are supposed to be winning! With your logic, since they bought a ton of top guys in FA they should be 4-0, but they are 1-3 just losing to a bad 49'ers team. You think that one play maker is going to win us last weeks game, but a top 5 WR isn't going to keep the Titan's from scoring 31 points!
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well exactly what i was hoping wouldnt happen.......but it was pretty much inevidable. Julio Jones had 11 catches for 127 yds yesterday.
Couldnt believe we passed on this guy. And if anyones doubts this guy get the NFL Ticket and watch him, hes that good.
How many more great players are we going to pass on?
well exactly what i was hoping wouldnt happen.......but it was pretty much inevidable. Julio Jones had 11 catches for 127 yds yesterday.
Couldnt believe we passed on this guy. And if anyones doubts this guy get the NFL Ticket and watch him, hes that good.
How many more great players are we going to pass on?
You are too quick to make this assertion. Jones is a part of a better offense. You can't hate on this move until after you know who we get next year with our draft picks from Atlanta. We all knew the browns weren't a playoff team this year (well the sane fans anyway), so Jones would not have made as big an impact as the 5 draft picks we received in return..
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hes just been waiting for jones to actually have a decent game before he could make this thread. its seriously not even worth debating cause he doesn't realize the different dynamics of the offenses. if noodles was half the QB ryan is, then maybe he'd have half a leg to stand on.
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Really back to the main subject here Julio has had one good game and hasnt been an impact in the others, and this is including him dropping wide open touchdown passes so get over yourself hes overrated.Better than anything we have yes worth the 6th pick in the draft no.
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Really back to the main subject here Julio has had one good game and hasnt been an impact in the others, and this is including him dropping wide open touchdown passes so get over yourself hes overrated.Better than anything we have yes worth the 6th pick in the draft no.
Really back to the main subject here Julio has had one good game and hasnt been an impact in the others, and this is including him dropping wide open touchdown passes so get over yourself hes overrated.Better than anything we have yes worth the 6th pick in the draft no.
Your overrated....you people need to stop just watching the browns and realize who else is out there....sit on sundays with eight games up on your tv screen then come tell me who else is doing what out there instead of just watching highlights.....most of you browns fans have tunnel vision....seems like Ghoolie, WRebel, PK n a few others can see the light....you guys will admit it oneday
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Really back to the main subject here Julio has had one good game and hasnt been an impact in the others, and this is including him dropping wide open touchdown passes so get over yourself hes overrated.Better than anything we have yes worth the 6th pick in the draft no.
Your overrated....you people need to stop just watching the browns and realize who else is out there....sit on sundays with eight games up on your tv screen then come tell me who else is doing what out there instead of just watching highlights.....most of you browns fans have tunnel vision....seems like Ghoolie, WRebel, PK n a few others can see the light....you guys will admit it oneday
Your overrated....you people need to stop just watching the browns and realize who else is out there....sit on sundays with eight games up on your tv screen then come tell me who else is doing what out there instead of just watching highlights.....most of you browns fans have tunnel vision....seems like Ghoolie, WRebel, PK n a few others can see the light....you guys will admit it oneday
Way to name all the trolls!
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hes just been waiting for jones to actually have a decent game before he could make this thread. its seriously not even worth debating cause he doesn't realize the different dynamics of the offenses. if noodles was half the QB ryan is, then maybe he'd have half a leg to stand on.
hes just been waiting for jones to actually have a decent game before he could make this thread. its seriously not even worth debating cause he doesn't realize the different dynamics of the offenses. if noodles was half the QB ryan is, then maybe he'd have half a leg to stand on.
its not about jones having one good game, not decent, and the topic being brought about. jones is a good young receiver and he has a lot to prove still, its just that this league is offense and we have no weapons at alllllllllllllll. jones is a beast and the falcons have many weapons and jones is probably 3rd best on the team. we passed on him when he was the best option for our team. and ryan hasnt looked so good this season even tho he was awsome last year. we have no weapons jones was the best option better than all the receivers we have now.
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hes just been waiting for jones to actually have a decent game before he could make this thread. its seriously not even worth debating cause he doesn't realize the different dynamics of the offenses. if noodles was half the QB ryan is, then maybe he'd have half a leg to stand on.
its not about jones having one good game, not decent, and the topic being brought about. jones is a good young receiver and he has a lot to prove still, its just that this league is offense and we have no weapons at alllllllllllllll. jones is a beast and the falcons have many weapons and jones is probably 3rd best on the team. we passed on him when he was the best option for our team. and ryan hasnt looked so good this season even tho he was awsome last year. we have no weapons jones was the best option better than all the receivers we have now.
its not about jones having one good game, not decent, and the topic being brought about. jones is a good young receiver and he has a lot to prove still, its just that this league is offense and we have no weapons at alllllllllllllll. jones is a beast and the falcons have many weapons and jones is probably 3rd best on the team. we passed on him when he was the best option for our team. and ryan hasnt looked so good this season even tho he was awsome last year. we have no weapons jones was the best option better than all the receivers we have now.
Still doesn't make him worthy of the 6th pick.
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its not about jones having one good game, not decent, and the topic being brought about. jones is a good young receiver and he has a lot to prove still, its just that this league is offense and we have no weapons at alllllllllllllll. jones is a beast and the falcons have many weapons and jones is probably 3rd best on the team. we passed on him when he was the best option for our team. and ryan hasnt looked so good this season even tho he was awsome last year. we have no weapons jones was the best option better than all the receivers we have now.
Still doesn't make him worthy of the 6th pick.
Still doesn't make him worthy of the 6th pick.
hey man i cant wait to draft another D linemen and just stuff the line up all year long. Man I cant wait for the draft. Let draft all DLinemen...or maybe a replacement for Dawson in like the third round?
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You apparently have no concept of value. If Jones was worth it we would have drafted him. I take Taylor and a first rounder over Jones every single time.
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You apparently have no concept of value. If Jones was worth it we would have drafted him. I take Taylor and a first rounder over Jones every single time.
You apparently have no concept of value. If Jones was worth it we would have drafted him. I take Taylor and a first rounder over Jones every single time.
dollar menu at mcdonalds...now thats good value
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You apparently have no concept of value. If Jones was worth it we would have drafted him. I take Taylor and a first rounder over Jones every single time.
dollar menu at mcdonalds...now thats good value
dollar menu at mcdonalds...now thats good value
Not when you consider the medical bills you'll have from sucking the lard out of your oversized heart. Instant gratification is your Achilles heel.
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Browns 1 round draft picks over the years
1999 1 Tim Couch QB Kentucky
2000 1 Courtney Brown DE Penn State
2001 3 Gerard Warren DT Florida
2002 16 William Green RB Boston College [23]
2003 21 Jeff Faine C Notre Dame
2004 6 Kellen Winslow II TE Miami (Florida) [24]
2005 3 Braylon Edwards WR Michigan
2006 13 Kamerion Wimbley LB Florida State [25]
2007 3 Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin [26]
22 Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame [27]
2008 No Pick
2009 21 Alex Mack C California [28]
2010 7 Joe Haden CB Florida
2011 21 Phil Taylor DT Baylor
What sticks out here???????? 2004 & 2005 we drafted a few weapons.....werent we 10-6 shortly after that
Seems odd to me
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And 4-12 a year later what's your point?
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Listen Julio could run a 3.5 and it won't make 2 shits if he has to stand and wait for McCoy's floaters to fall out of the sky.
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i mean you're totally right dude, it probably makes no difference he went to a NFC championship caliber team with a top ten WR opposite to him, a HOF tight end, a pro bowl QB and RB and dominant offensive line. Since the browns have all those things i'm sure he would just be dominating for us.
......point is, it's all about context man. You can't just objectively say because a guy is good for one team he's gonna be good for someone else. And last i checked, phil taylor is lookin pretty damn good.
i mean you're totally right dude, it probably makes no difference he went to a NFC championship caliber team with a top ten WR opposite to him, a HOF tight end, a pro bowl QB and RB and dominant offensive line. Since the browns have all those things i'm sure he would just be dominating for us.
......point is, it's all about context man. You can't just objectively say because a guy is good for one team he's gonna be good for someone else. And last i checked, phil taylor is lookin pretty damn good.
Not to mention the trade that was made. The Browns got a TON of value for that move. A TON, so even in hindsight and with the success of Jones this is still a ridiculous position. Julio Jones alone does not fix the Browns. All those draft picks certainly make larger strides.
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i can understand a 6-10 year or 5-11......i mean thats what the talent on the field is going to get us. So i don't get too mad over these losses like most of you are getting. All i here is Fire Shur or Holm etc etc. Thats just plain stupid. We can't keep bringing in new coaches n new offenses. When we are a threat to score on offense on every possesion then thats when ill be expecting winning years, as of now i cant be let down, cuz theres nothing to expect from this lousy team
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Your just unreal man........Eagles would beat us by 30
Top tier teams have playmakers n lots of them..........its plain n simple
im not trying to hear it from you complacent browns fans who want to keep drafting DT n OL'men..........thats our problem......lets be a threat out there on offense for a change
They might steam role us but the dream team is still losing games that they are supposed to be winning! With your logic, since they bought a ton of top guys in FA they should be 4-0, but they are 1-3 just losing to a bad 49'ers team. You think that one play maker is going to win us last weeks game, but a top 5 WR isn't going to keep the Titan's from scoring 31 points!
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
They might steam role us but the dream team is still losing games that they are supposed to be winning! With your logic, since they bought a ton of top guys in FA they should be 4-0, but they are 1-3 just losing to a bad 49'ers team. You think that one play maker is going to win us last weeks game, but a top 5 WR isn't going to keep the Titan's from scoring 31 points!
I don't know why all the hate on the Niners from you ... They have a very good defense, and special teams ... and with Gore and VD more playmakers then us on offense.
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i can understand a 6-10 year or 5-11......i mean thats what the talent on the field is going to get us. So i don't get too mad over these losses like most of you are getting. All i here is Fire Shur or Holm etc etc. Thats just plain stupid. We can't keep bringing in new coaches n new offenses. When we are a threat to score on offense on every possesion then thats when ill be expecting winning years, as of now i cant be let down, cuz theres nothing to expect from this lousy team
i can understand a 6-10 year or 5-11......i mean thats what the talent on the field is going to get us. So i don't get too mad over these losses like most of you are getting. All i here is Fire Shur or Holm etc etc. Thats just plain stupid. We can't keep bringing in new coaches n new offenses. When we are a threat to score on offense on every possesion then thats when ill be expecting winning years, as of now i cant be let down, cuz theres nothing to expect from this lousy team
What the crybabies bemoaning we passed on Jones aren't thinking like Heckert is. Which is a a couple years down the road. Hello- Blackmon is in the 2012 draft, and the Browns are in an excellent position to snag him, or move up with Atlanta's extra first rounder to do so. WRs are ancillary pieces to the puzzle- you build your foundation first- O and D lines, then add the "Playmakers".
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