Hillis A Flash In The Pan
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here is the list
Year
Player
Yards/Team
1978
Tony Reed
1,053 / Chiefs
1978
Terry Miller
1,060 / Bills
1978
Terdell Middleton
1,116 / Packers
1979
Ricky Bell
1,263 / Bucs
1981
Joe Delaney
1,121 / Chiefs
1981
Pete Johnson
1,077 / Bengals
1981
Ted Brown
1,063 / Vikings
1983
Curtis Dickey
1,122 / Colts
1983
Tony Collins
1,049 / Patriots
1984
Sammy Winder
1,153 / Broncos
1985
Craig James
1,227 / Patriots
1985
Kevin Mack
1,104 / Browns
1985
Stump Mitchell
1,006 / Cardinals
1986
Reuben Mayes
1,353 / Saints
1987
Charles White
1,374 / Rams
1988
John Stephens
1,168 / Patriots
1988
Gary Anderson
1,119 / Chargers
1988
Ickey Woods
1,066 / Bengals
1988
John Settle
1,024 / Falcons
1988
Mike Rozier
1,002 / Oilers
1989
Dalton Hilliard
1,262 / Saints
1990
Marion Butts
1,225 / Chargers
1990
Barry Word
1,015 / Chiefs
1991
Gaston Green
1,037 / Broncos
1992
Barry Foster
1,690 / Steelers
Year
Player
Yards/Team
1992
Lorenzo White
1,226 / Oilers
1992
Reggie Cobb
1,171 / Bucs
1992
Harold Green
1,170 / Bengals
1992
Cleveland Gary
1,125 / Rams
1993
Erric Pegram
1,185 / Falcons
1993
Leonard Russell
1,088 / Patriots
1993
Reggie Brooks
1,063 / Redskins
1993
Ron Moore
1,018 / Cardinals
1994
Natrone Means
1,350 / Chargers
1995
Harvey Williams
1,114 / Raiders
1995
Craig Heyward
1,083 / Falcons
1995
Rashaan Salaam
1,074 / Bears
1995
Edgar Bennett
1,067 / Packers
1996
Anthony Johnson
1,120 / Panthers
1996
Karim Abdul-Jabbar
1,116 / Dolphins
1997
Napoleon Kaufman
1,294 / Raiders
1997
Raymont Harris
1,033 / Bears
1998
Robert Edwards
1,115 / Patriots
1999
Olandis Gary
1,159 / Broncos
2000
Lamar Smith
1,139 / Dolphins
2000
James Allen
1,120 / Bears
2000
Tyrone Wheatley
1,046 / Raiders
2001
Dominic Rhodes
1,104 / Colts
2002
Michael Bennett
1,296 / Vikings
2003
Kevan Barlow
1,024 / 49ers
Year
Player
Yards/Team
2004
Kevin Jones
1,133 / Lions
2004
Chris Brown
1,067 / Titans
2005
Cadillac Williams
1,178 / Bucs
2005
LaMont Jordan
1,025 / Raiders
2006
Chester Taylor
1,214 / Vikings
2006
Ladell Betts
1,154 / Redskins
2006
Julius Jones
1,084 / Cowboys
2006
Michael Vick
1,039 / Falcons
2006
Tatum Bell
1,025 / Broncos
2006
Ronnie Brown
1,008 / Dolphins
2007
LenDale White
1,110 / Titans
2007
Justin Fargas
1,009 / Raiders
2008
Michael Turner
1,699 / Falcons
2008
Steve Slaton
1,282 / Texans
2008
Matt Forte
1,238 / Bears
2008
Derrick Ward
1,025 / Giants
2009
Maurice Jones-Drew
1,391 / Jaguars
2009
Ray Rice
1,339 / Ravens
2009
Cedric Benson
1,251 / Bengals
2009
Jonathan Stewart
1,133 / Panthers
2009
Jamaal Charles
1,120 / Chiefs
2009
Rashard Mendenhall
1,108 / Steelers
2009
Fred Jackson
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I'd take Jonathan Stewart off the list.
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Look at all the 1 hit wonders running for 1000 yards since 1978. 90% of them had the same or near the same or less yards as Hillis. And the only ones that are better than Hillis are the ones from 2008 and newer.
They should've traded him today for something. Because it's painfully obvious this regime isn't going to pay or play him. It seems they are hell bent on diminishing his value.
Just search 1 hit 1000 yard rushers, and you will see PLENTY of back that EVERYONE thought was the next great thing. Hillis is just that.
Look at all the 1 hit wonders running for 1000 yards since 1978. 90% of them had the same or near the same or less yards as Hillis. And the only ones that are better than Hillis are the ones from 2008 and newer.
They should've traded him today for something. Because it's painfully obvious this regime isn't going to pay or play him. It seems they are hell bent on diminishing his value.
Just search 1 hit 1000 yard rushers, and you will see PLENTY of back that EVERYONE thought was the next great thing. Hillis is just that.
I'm not going to go research every back on that list- but you didn't do your homework correctly. I'll give you a second chance to edit it, or you flunk. Because Jones-Drew, Benson, and Mendenhall are NOT one hit wonders.
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Vick? Come on, man.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
1200 yards, does that include preseason and fantasy yardage?
ahhh he had 1177 last year my man.......so like i said 1200 yd rusher at best is purely accurate as of now
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I'll take 1200 yards every season. I'm perfectly fine with that.
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I'll take 1200 yards every season. I'm perfectly fine with that.
I'll take 1200 yards every season. I'm perfectly fine with that.
i mean i can't disagree with that...as long as his yds per carry stay up and provide a good combo back to go with hillis...that would work out
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he has had 2500 yards from scrimmage in 25 games started. Receiving yards should be used when evaluating a back, they count to, they move the chains.
"Because Jones-Drew, Benson, and Mendenhall are NOT one hit wonders. "
neither is Michael Turner, Matt Forte, Ray Rice, Jamaal Charles, Fred Jackson (averaging 100 ypg this year with 800 yards from scrimmage so far, had 927 yards last year). Many of those guys had to split carries with other backs and had several seasons with 1,000 yards from scrimmage. For instance, Reuben Mayes, Dalton Hilliard and Craig Heyward were all on the same team for a good amount of time. Mayes made the pro bowl after his 1k season, he would have had another 1k season but it was a strike shortened season. You can't just look at all the 1,000 yard rushers and link them all together. You have to look at skillset. How many 240 pound guys can run like Hillis? He is very light on his feet which allows him to change direction when hitting the hole without having to make dramatic stop and go cuts, his feet are always moving which is why he is rarely hit for a loss (it doesn't matter this season because every play call is straight up the middle). What separates him from someone like Brandon Jacobs is his cutback ability, he lost a good deal of that for a while last year with the thigh injury. You don't see Jacobs excelling on stretch plays and toss plays, his big runs have come up the gut with huge holes. Hillis is not limited in the type of play they call for him. He excelled last year with a lead blocker and he excelled in Denver's zone blocking scheme in a single back set.
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Any freakin time a player is successful - and other others are very limited...
that player gets all the game planning to shut him down.
The Browns must get a legit RT on the line, and some solid depth on the oline,
much of any consistent success on offense.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
1200 yards, does that include preseason and fantasy yardage?
Like you and I proclaimed loudly, Hillis was a one year wonder, another Rueben Droughns, nobody listened and now here we are when the numbers are coming in a bunch of geniuses arise never respecting the greatness of those whom already got it long before the season started
it is too frickin funny Cal has never got it and still doesnt he blames Hillis failures on the RT....................................................................hiilarious.................dime a dozen ruined monster back
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
1200 yards, does that include preseason and fantasy yardage?
include preseason, fantasy and practice yards
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1600 yards. As a fan, wouldn't you want Hillis to prove that he isn't a flash in the pan? Wouldn't that be better for the team instead of bragging about how you are right after a few games with a crappy oline? its not just the RT, the entire line isn't getting any push. Why would you want a player to fail?
Droughns was a kr for 3 years, then rushed for 1200 yards in Denver, then 1200 here, with a grand total of 2 touchdowns! Yes that is exactly like Hillis.
Matt Forte had a down year his 2nd year as a starter, 3.6 ypc 4 tds and failing to hit 1k.
and why would you reply to your own post?
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The offensive isn't the problem ... the coaching staff is. Hillis has been given almost no chance to produce. He has only been given 20+ carries in one game ... and has rewarded the coaching staff 94 yards rushing, and 2 TD's.
You guys can't expect production when the coaches aren't giving him the ball.
Hillis carrying the rock 20+ times a game does not just helps Peyton it helps Colt and the rest of the offense as well.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
1200 yards, does that include preseason and fantasy yardage?
Like you and I proclaimed loudly, Hillis was a one year wonder, another Rueben Droughns, nobody listened and now here we are when the numbers are coming in a bunch of geniuses arise never respecting the greatness of those whom already got it long before the season started
it is too frickin funny Cal has never got it and still doesnt he blames Hillis failures on the RT....................................................................hiilarious.................dime a dozen ruined monster back
Like you and I proclaimed loudly, Hillis was a one year wonder, another Rueben Droughns, nobody listened and now here we are when the numbers are coming in a bunch of geniuses arise never respecting the greatness of those whom already got it long before the season started
it is too frickin funny Cal has never got it and still doesnt he blames Hillis failures on the RT....................................................................hiilarious.................dime a dozen ruined monster back
Droughns was actually a 2 year wonder. One 1200 yard year with Denver and one with the Browns. The difference is he hardly scored touchdowns. Hillis had 11 last year. Droughns had 2 for us in 2005 and 6 for Denver in 2004. They aren't the same player. If Hillis can stay healthy and the coaching staff actually uses him correctly, Hillis will be effective. He is also loads better at pass protection than any of our other RB's right now. We still have so many problems to fix but Hillis's talent is not one of our top concerns right now (WR, OLB, OL, QB depth all come before RB right now).
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well can we get someone to block for him, maybe open some holes? marecic sucks compared to vickers and our oline is getting pushed back on every play.
the worse move the FO has made was letting vickers go. now they are contemplating letting hillis go?
c'mon man!
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Pay attention McFly. I am the real McCoy, King Ghoolie Lives. Note my number of posts, and rating. Then note King Ghoolie, who someone just created over the last couple days to be cute.
C.mon, sit up and pay attention. Class is in session.
It says you have 689 posts and are a rookie.
So, I guess what you are getting is the hazing that every rookie must endure.
(Mine says I have over 7000 posts and my number hangs in the rafters!...but we all know you have been around longer than dirt Ghoolie)
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
No, Rich is dead on. Droughns, like Hillis is a one hit woner.
Both had a good year when defenses prepared for the Browns as a team without a running game.
The second year, Droughns, like Hillis got shut down, andnow will probably be cut.
Easy to stifle, straight ahead, slow runner.
so all of those times he bounced it the outside using lateral agility,long patriots td, run against the Bengals to run the clock out, all of the toss plays that resulted in tds or the stretch play where Tommy Z threw him out of bounds after 48 yards were just magical illusions? He doesn't have elite top end speed but he isn't slow, he is faster than guys like Blount and Shonn Greene.
Are you saying defensive coordinators are so incompetent that not only can they not make an in game adjustment to a runningback, that they are unable to go through the previous week's film of the opponent and realize no passing game and just a tight end and Hillis? Yeah you really know how to use logic there. Droughns was placed on ir his first year with the Lions, was a kick returner/special teams gunner for 3 years ( a position that has a short shelf life, return men's ability diminish very quickly) then he was also a starting rb for the last year with the Broncos, rb is also a position with a short shelf life, average is 3.5 years. He ran for 1200 yards. Then he came here and ran for 1200 yards 2 tds. He still had decent production his 3rd year as a starting runningback. He was 29 years old when he was no longer a starting rb, around the age most backs start to decline. He still served as a good goal line back that season for the Giants. He didn't come into the league at 220, he was much smaller. Also, Droughns wasn't cut, he was traded for Tim Carter (one of those 4.3 receivers with "unlimited upside" but never lives up to it.
Seriously, you act like runningback is some hard position to figure out, its not like quarterback where you have to sit hours and hour watching game film figuring out. "Lets look at the tape, lets see theres the play where they pull Steinbach and Thomas with Vickers coming right behind him and then a 240 pound guy at full steam, I wonder how we stop that'. You couldn't, there was a period of time where teams knew what we were going to do and we did it anyway. Then Daboli started outsmarting himself thinking "they think were going to run it to the left or up the middle where we can't be stopped? lets run it to the right, out of shotgun, in a 4 receiver set, where none of the receivers are actual threats" Seriously, the NFL only has about 5 or 6 different running play that they use consistently, yes they are used out of multiple formations and little tweaks but still the same concepts. tight zone, outside zone (stretch) , counter, power, draw, some sort of toss play. Hillis is able to run all of these, he isnt limited to running power every play, and he is also a threat in the passing game (Droughns didn't catch close to 61 passes in a season). And yes he can run it right, usually when the lg pulls, Steinbach was great at this, but if the key block was supposed to be by the rt then it was usually a fail. The new guy isn't as good at pulling as Steinbach either. The only thing that Marecic does is draw an extra defender in the box, at least Vickers could level the extra guy in the box, should just do more single back sets.
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Hillis has had strept throat one game, a tweaked hammy in Another, and a confused awful offensive gameplan against Cincy. He hasn't had much game time to produce this season. If he's 100 percent these first five games, we may have seen that even with a shitty o line hillis can still make plays and be a difference in this lackluster offensive attack.
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