You heard it here first.
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I tentatively worry that the threadstarter might be right. Look at all the people that have left New England and gone straight down the tubes elsewhere.
Plus, as a GM, did Pioli ever 'wow' anyone with the rosters he put together? They didn't win those Superbowls with pro-bowlers, they won it with a bunch of good-at-best football players who were coached up by Bill Belichik.
And it just does to show, winning defines a GM regardless of the talent they bring in. Savage probably brought more talent to the Browns in a short period than Pioli did to the Pats, but their respective coaches coached up that talent quite differently.
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Still waiting to hear fromRich and Ghoolie. They know it all.........................WHO?
Still waiting to hear from Rich and Ghoolie. They know it all.........................WHO?
I share some of Ghoolie's concerns about Pioli.
NOW THAT YOU'VE TOLD US WHO YOU DON'T WANT, JUST TELL US WHO YOU DO WANT.
We eagerly await your genius insight on the matter, since you don't want the #1 logical choice. And don't give us any crap about Parcells- he'd be a 1-2 year fix at most. Jimmy Johnson isn't leaving Florida. The short list is getting a lot shorter, no?
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Let me try this a second time....................
Hire Cower and give him the damned team................... OR
Hire Parcells as GM and let him pick the HC.
Piloli is a GREAT choice if you want to know the difference between the Brazillian red and the Dark Vanilla French Roast.
Oh, you Shitstain fans are fukking hilarious, I mean it. You all think you are some top-notch organization, and now that there are vacancies everybody and their brother wants to go there. Give me a fukking break. Think about it another way, for real. What would happen if Cowher or Parcells went home tonight and said this masterpiece to their wives....
"Uh, honey, pack your bags, we're moving to CLEVELAND!!!!"
With that said, the best thing that could happen is for Lerner to move the team to LA or some other city that loves football. It worked for guys like Paul Brown and Art Modell, and it can work for Lerner, too. Cleveland doesn't deserve an NFL team. You idiots bitched and moaned when Art moved the team, yet just a few weeks ago you left Shitstain Stadium half-empty during the Bungles game. Classic. You guys act like some "great" fan base, but all you do is make yourselves look bad year after year after year. I used to tolerate Shitstain fans, but lately you guys are just floating in la-la land, er, the toilet.
Oh, you Shitstain fans are fukking hilarious, I mean it. You all think you are some top-notch organization, and now that there are vacancies everybody and their brother wants to go there. Give me a fukking break. Think about it another way, for real. What would happen if Cowher or Parcells went home tonight and said this masterpiece to their wives....
'"Uh, honey, pack your bags, we're moving to CLEVELAND!!!!"
With that said, the best thing that could happen is for Lerner to move the team to LA or some other city that loves football. It worked for guys like Paul Brown and Art Modell, and it can work for Lerner, too. Cleveland doesn't deserve an NFL team. You idiots bitched and moaned when Art moved the team, yet just a few weeks ago you left Shitstain Stadium half-empty during the Bungles game. Classic. You guys act like some "great" fan base, but all you do is make yourselves look bad year after year after year. I used to tolerate Shitstain fans, but lately you guys are just floating in la-la land, er, the toilet.
Dude thats wrong ! Stop !
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It isn't about who you fetched coffee for. Because, everybody that is an assistant is a coffee fetcher according to our resident bandwagoners.
It's about what they learned and how they apply that. How they go about making decisions. It's not about what tree they are falling out of.
Many in Parcels' tree have failed, including RAC. Some from Bill Walsh's tree failed. Some from Coughlin's tree have failed also. Is Spagnoula a lock. Hell, he is from the Reid/Johnson tree not Coughlin's tree. Maybe we need to look a Marty's tree? Opps, that's Wade Phillips, Cam Cameron and Chud. How about Vermeil's tree? Was RAC from Parcel's tree, Belichick's tree or Palmer's tree? Hell, Savage was from the Modell/Ozzie tree.
RAC was a good DC. But you can't put a rookie HC together with a rookie GM, especially if they aren't on the same page and expect success. A rookie HC needs experienced coordinators. Lerner needs to make sure that there is enough experience and also compatibility between the FO and the staff. You need guys that can teach, guys good with X's and 0's and talent evaluators and again, they need to be on the same page. There's a reason it's called a team.
Don't some of the branches run thru a lot of trees?
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I tentatively worry that the threadstarter might be right. Look at all the people that have left New England and gone straight down the tubes elsewhere.
Plus, as a GM, did Pioli ever 'wow' anyone with the rosters he put together? They didn't win those Superbowls with pro-bowlers, they won it with a bunch of good-at-best football players who were coached up by Bill Belichik.
And it just does to show, winning defines a GM regardless of the talent they bring in. Savage probably brought more talent to the Browns in a short period than Pioli did to the Pats, but their respective coaches coached up that talent quite differently.
I tentatively worry that the threadstarter might be right. Look at all the people that have left New England and gone straight down the tubes elsewhere.
Well, there are two ways at looking at that. One is the way you're interpreting it, the other being that Belichick & Pioli have a special knack for getting rid of players just as they're about to decline. Buy low, sell high seems to be their mantra.
The Pats let us have guys like Andruzzi & McGinest when they knew they were aging. They also let Damien Woody leave in free agency right before his weight problems started affecting his play.
And when 2002 2nd Round pick Deion Branch wanted a new deal, they got great value for him by trading him to Seattle for a 1st Round pick. They then traded one of their two 2007 1sts to San Francisco for a 1st and 4th. The 4th was used to acquire Randy Moss; the 1st was traded down for a 1st and 3rd, with which they picked Jerod Mayo and Shawn Crable.
In other words, they traded Branch, a guy they got in late Round 2, for Randy Moss, Jerod Mayo, and Shawn Crable. Now that is getting value.
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Another pathetic thread ending in denial and hate about those have never missed a beat about winning and about how we propel losing............yep Rich and Ghoolie as usual kick ass and geech who thinks he is big shidt cannot even acknowledge Rich cause he can say NUTTIN but Rich always gets it(shame on you Geech for being less than full).............and you whiners about Ghoolie ...........bitch about him getting it too
NOw we are on genius too..............here...........going cumbaya about Parcells who never won shidt without Belichick............and Pioli who just never won shidt
this is too cool...........and we shall school again............
why because WE GET IT.......................simple as that........GO BFOWNS MAY WE OVERCOME THE DUMBEST FANS IN FOOTBALL
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes -
Another pathetic thread ending in denial and hate about those have never missed a beat about winning and about how we propel losing............yep Rich and Ghoolie as usual kick ass and geech who thinks he is big shidt cannot even acknowledge Rich cause he can say NUTTIN but Rich always gets it(shame on you Geech for being less than full).............and you whiners about Ghoolie ...........bitch about him getting it too
NOw we are on genius too..............here...........going cumbaya about Parcells who never won shidt without Belichick............and Pioli who just never won shidt
this is too cool...........and we shall school again............
why because WE GET IT.......................simple as that........GO BFOWNS MAY WE OVERCOME THE DUMBEST FANS IN FOOTBALL
Another pathetic thread ending in denial and hate about those have never missed a beat about winning and about how we propel losing............yep Rich and Ghoolie and geech cannot even acknowledge Rich cause he can say NUTTIN but Rich always gets it.............and you whiners about Ghoolie bitch about him getting it too
NOw we are on genius too..............here...........going cumbaya about Parcells who never won shidt without Belichick............and Pioli who just never won shidt
this is too cool...........and we shall school again............
why because WE GET IT.......................simple as that
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I made a big time statement read the boards...................maybe you need to call Randy and tell him to put me in charge of GM and Coach selection...........and then we win the Bowl in a few short years..........instead keep pissing on me for being correctomundo as always.........what a bunch of fukking morons hate those who see it get it and want to correct it
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@inspecta said:
Rich if I wasn't so lazy I would track down the posts, but I know on 3 occasions posters gave you props for calling savage/crennel. THis is a message board dude, if your waiting for everybody to line up one by one and give you a "props" post your gonna be waiting for a long time.I might of missed it, but I'm still waiting to hear who you think we should go get for GM and coach. Same goes with Ghoolie (he did say cowher, but thats a no-go)
Shit, I even did in another thread. So if I did, you know sure as shit a bunch more have done it.
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I made a big time statement read the boards...................maybe you need to call Randy and tell him to put me in charge of GM and Coach selection...........and then we win the Bowl in a few short years..........instead keep pissing on me for being correctomundo as always.........what a bunch of fukking morons hate those who see it get it and want to correct it
I made a big time statement read the boards...................maybe you need to call Randy and tell him to put me in charge of GM and Coach selection...........and then we win the Bowl in a few short years..........instead keep pissing on me for being correctomundo as always.........what a bunch of fukking morons hate those who see it get it and want to correct it
Or we would have already had Saban and Nolan......
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Another pathetic thread ending in denial and hate about those have never missed a beat about winning and about how we propel losing............yep Rich and Ghoolie as usual kick ass and geech who thinks he is big shidt cannot even acknowledge Rich cause he can say NUTTIN but Rich always gets it(shame on you Geech for being less than full).............and you whiners about Ghoolie ...........bitch about him getting it too
NOw we are on genius too..............here...........going cumbaya about Parcells who never won shidt without Belichick............and Pioli who just never won shidt
this is too cool...........and we shall school again............
why because WE GET IT.......................simple as that........GO BFOWNS MAY WE OVERCOME THE DUMBEST FANS IN FOOTBALL
Another pathetic thread ending in denial and hate about those have never missed a beat about winning and about how we propel losing............yep Rich and Ghoolie as usual kick ass and geech who thinks he is big shidt cannot even acknowledge Rich cause he can say NUTTIN but Rich always gets it(shame on you Geech for being less than full).............and you whiners about Ghoolie ...........bitch about him getting it too
NOw we are on genius too..............here...........going cumbaya about Parcells who never won shidt without Belichick............and Pioli who just never won shidt
this is too cool...........and we shall school again............
why because WE GET IT.......................simple as that........GO BFOWNS MAY WE OVERCOME THE DUMBEST FANS IN FOOTBALL
Yeah Rich I get it- you and Ghoolie are too chicken to name us a GM. Props on calling out Savage. BTW, it wasn't exactly rocket science to see Crennell totally lost it this year. Yeah Rich Pioli never won anything. We know it's all Ballychoke in New England, from drafting the players, to making the trades, to doing the laundry, making hotel reservations for the team, and cooking the dinners.
So really, how in the hell can you and Tom say how much final say Bill B has in personnel matters? You good buds with Bob Kraft? You Remember the guy who threw a hissy fit on draft day and picked up Craig Powell in the first round- a guy who wasn't even the best linebacker on Ohio State? That was Bill B to refresh your memory.
I'm sure it was all Billy B that made that genius trade to pick up Randy Moss for a fourth rounder, and dump Stalworthless and Andruzzi on the Browns.
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Like this was a tough call on the eve of 2009?
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All that auto-fellatio must get tiring.
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And maybe this site could save a few bucks if you DELETE EIGHT YEAR OLD THREADS.
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Fuckin with the millennials. Pretty easy to do. Funny as hell.
Hey Ghoolie, a belated Merry Christmas and early Happy New Year to ya. Funny(ironic) how YSU gets a good coach. 2 years and in the Nat. Championship game.
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@ghoolie said:
This site is not interested in saving money. If that was the case they would shut it down. They are interested in EARNING money. That's why I am here. People read the living shit out of my stuff. Hell, I don't even know what this stupid thread was about. and yet, here you are.
An entertaining thread doesn't always equate to a substantive thread. People also think mind rotting nonsense like the Real Housewives or Kardashians are entertaining too. But, by all means, keep up your "entertaining" posts, Caitlyn.
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