Are You Even Happy About This Win?
-
Well, you are right, it was a nothing game that probably cost us a better player in the draft. But I've seen some improvement in the last two games and I think that's more important. And Heckert's draft classes are the playmakers on this team, which is really great. We're seeing the defence really starting to get better - especially on the D-line. Also, McCoy, Little, Cribbs, the new RB, are making progress. Even the coach. The right side of the line may have had their best game yet.
It can be discouraging when a team loses week after week. Sometimes a win is just what you need to make you feel good about yourself. Having said that, this could have been a statement game 24-10 if the McCoy doesn't give up the int. and the field goal is counted.
-
Zombo said:
We have drafted 1st,3rd,5th,6th,7th... etc.
It's not where you draft, it's how you draft.
Somehow the Steelers have found impact players without worrying where they draft every year.
Win every week at all costs.
Z
Agreed. OMG, if we hadn't had a botched snap the Browns would be sitting at a very ugly 5-5 right now, and with a win over a very beatable Cardinals team, one upset in the division (don't forget the Ratbirds have lost to the Jags and Seahags) I still think the Browns have a very realistic shot at at least 6 wins this year, maybe more if the defense holds up. That and a brain fart against the Bungles, and the Browns could easily be 6-4 right now, not 4-6, and be the poster child for winning ugly. 14 ugly wins will get you into the playoffs, and I'll take that any day over draft position.
Yup, by your logic, those Dolphins fans should be really pissed today, because of the big win- they just won themselves right out of the Luck Derby.
-
Back to reality:
All this did was cost us maybe 3-5 spots in the draft. For what? A worthless win?
Jags didn't even try to win it at the end by throwing, they could have ran it in easily but decided to pass.
Face it, we are going to lose out, so what did this game even mean? NOTHING, besides dropping down in the draft order and maybe missing out on the game changer.
Yeah, many people don't have this philosophy. Call me a bad fan, whatever you want, I don't care--all I saw today was a slide down in the draft because this season is washed up anyway. Anyway, many, many people do think the way I do, but don't have the stones to say it.
Enjoy your worthless, damaging good for nothing win.
All this did was cost us maybe 3-5 spots in the draft. For what? A worthless win?
Jags didn't even try to win it at the end by throwing, they could have ran it in easily but decided to pass.
Face it, we are going to lose out, so what did this game even mean? NOTHING, besides dropping down in the draft order and maybe missing out on the game changer.
Yeah, many people don't have this philosophy. Call me a bad fan, whatever you want, I don't care--all I saw today was a slide down in the draft because this season is washed up anyway. Anyway, many, many people do think the way I do, but don't have the stones to say it.
Enjoy your worthless, damaging good for nothing win.
You have to be kidding. You are the worst kind of fan. Go fook yourself. There were many positives today and you want to strip it away by talking draft. Grow the fook up.
-
Screw the draft position....win out is my attitude.
Learning to close out games and win is more important than a draft pick position.
-
Soju, you need to be called offside for that remark man - you have to win - it wasn't the last game of the season at 0-15! C'mon, you really think that they should just walk out there and run away from the ball and hope next year gets better, get real- it upsets me that a Browns fan can think that way.
-
A Browns win is always good.
Bottom line.
-
Just win, baby.
"Tanking for draft position" is something that might have been useful in an earlier version of Madden, but not in real life. The "game changers" can come from ANY draft position.
The Ravens found their downfield threat.. at the end of the second round, pick 58.
The Texans found their perennial All-Pro MLB ryans.. at the top of the second round.
And on and on. Tanking for draft position is stupid, because the negative effect in the locker room of deliberately losing far, far outweighs the positives of drafting 1-3 picks higher. Yes, I want Blackmon - but if he's gone at pick 2 which isn't implausible, we had no chance at him anyway.
-
I am very happy to see so many people on here that just want to win! HELL YEAH I am happy they won! My monday is better when the Browns win on Sunday! I am tired of coming on here an seeing people bitch because they lose one week and then bitch because they win the next week! WTF?!?!?!?!? Really?!
-
I'm happy about the win because I wanted to see Colt do his thing. With good protection and a decent running game Colt McCoy will be a very good QB.
-
There are good players available in every round of the draft, the key is picking the right ones. The Browns have not done a good job of picking players since they've returned to the league. Technically speaking, the Browns still have a "chance" at making a wildcard spot, though I just don't see you guys winning out. In terms of winning/draft order, finishing 8-8 or 9-7 would be better for the overall health of the club moreso than 3-4 spots higher in the draft.
-
Zombo said:
We have drafted 1st,3rd,5th,6th,7th... etc.
It's not where you draft, it's how you draft.
Somehow the Steelers have found impact players without worrying where they draft every year.
Win every week at all costs.
Z
EXACTLLY CORRECT A higher draft isn't a guarantee of getting a good player. Think Courtny Brown, Gerrard Warren, Tim Couch.............. They were all top 5 picks and they all sucked
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
its called pride. are telling me that if we somehow pull off a miraculous win against the steelers your gonna bitch about losing a couple draft spots?
its called pride. are telling me that if we somehow pull off a miraculous win against the steelers your gonna bitch about losing a couple draft spots?
Key words are PRIDE & CONFIDENCE. I like the pride these young men are showing & they need wins for confidence. With the kind of pride these players are showing, we'll be ok. They just never quit. The draft will be what it will be, but I sure won't hope for any losses.
Mike
IN DORSEY I TRUST -
Zombo said:
We have drafted 1st,3rd,5th,6th,7th... etc.
It's not where you draft, it's how you draft.
Somehow the Steelers have found impact players without worrying where they draft every year.
Win every week at all costs.
Z
EXACTLLY CORRECT A higher draft isn't a guarantee of getting a good player. Think Courtny Brown, Gerrard Warren, Tim Couch.............. They were all top 5 picks and they all sucked
EXACTLY CORRECT A higher draft isn't a guarantee of getting a good player. Think Courtny Brown, Gerrard Warren, Tim Couch.............. They were all top 5 picks and they all sucked
Yup, the Steelers have had relatively low picks because they were good. Care to see what they did? Pola-mumu 16th, Timmons 15th, Hampton 19th, Mendenhall 22nd, Woodley 46th second round, Wallace third round, Harrison- undrafted.
Aaron Rodgers slid down to the 20 or so pick, Dan Marino was the last player taken in the first round.
Notice a trend there? IMHO finally with Heckert calling the shots and an eye for talent, we may catch up- but it probably will take another year or two. So don't go crying over a few lost draft spots.
And in case you didn't notice with TWO first round picks, the Browns certainly have the ammunition to move up in the first round, should they choose to do so.
Like you said, how many times have the Browns drafted in the top five over the last 12 years, and totally blown the pick?
-
It IS comforting that the Browns now have folks conducting the draft who actually KNOW talent. We'll be ok.
Mike
-
4-6 team with building confidence from all aspects of the franchise. Two fluke plays away from being 6-4. This is prob the same tool that cheered every game the cavs lost to get James how'd that work?
U want my opinion Browns 21-Bungles 18. I want to draft behind atlanta's spot!
-
its called pride. are telling me that if we somehow pull off a miraculous win against the steelers your gonna bitch about losing a couple draft spots?
Key words are PRIDE & CONFIDENCE. I like the pride these young men are showing & they need wins for confidence. With the kind of pride these players are showing, we'll be ok. They just never quit. The draft will be what it will be, but I sure won't hope for any losses.
Mike
Key words are PRIDE & CONFIDENCE. I like the pride these young men are showing & they need wins for confidence. With the kind of pride these players are showing, we'll be ok. They just never quit. The draft will be what it will be, but I sure won't hope for any losses.
Mike
Yea I must admit to some part of me wanting close losses for the draft pick (I reallly want Blackmon), but our fans and players need these wins. It really is about pride (and lack of embarrassment) and building a tradition of winning. To look at Colt's face toward the end of the game (and Dawson and Haden etc..) they reallllly needed this win for confidence and just competitiveness. It wasn't pretty, but Im worried about our team losing confidence and faith in themselves and teammates, so it was great to see the win...
-
its called pride. are telling me that if we somehow pull off a miraculous win against the steelers your gonna bitch about losing a couple draft spots?
Key words are PRIDE & CONFIDENCE. I like the pride these young men are showing & they need wins for confidence. With the kind of pride these players are showing, we'll be ok. They just never quit. The draft will be what it will be, but I sure won't hope for any losses.
Mike
Key words are PRIDE & CONFIDENCE. I like the pride these young men are showing & they need wins for confidence. With the kind of pride these players are showing, we'll be ok. They just never quit. The draft will be what it will be, but I sure won't hope for any losses.
Mike
It doesn't matter what little PRIDE & CONFIDENCE was manufactured last Sunday against the crap Jags, we come back to reality against Balt. and Pitt these final games, and in the end no confidence was created, only a hollow win that damamges our draft pick in the 1st round.
Look at who we beat--Dolphins, Colts, Jags and Seahags--you get "confident" from those wins?
Get real!
Now, if these wins were against San Fran, Houston, Tenn. and Oakland then HELL YA! I'd be thrilled we won last Sunday!
You guys aren't very smart.
-
I wonder if the Packer fans are happy about there wins since they only beat the Panthers, Vikings 2x, Tampa, Chargers, Denver. I mean shit They really only took down the Bears before they became good, the Saints in the first game of the yr, and "if" Ingram does not get stopped at the 1 yrd line they lose. I mean they beat the Falcons, but they are not that good. So if you look at the Packers just are not that good because they have not played anybody good...
I wonder if the 49er fans are happy about there wins, I mean they played the Browns, Bucs, Seahawks, Eagles, Redskins, and Cardinals. I mean really there only good win was against the Lions, and they are not that good.
God Glad I am not a Texan fan, I mean they really have not beat anybody either. 6 of there 7 wins are against teams with losing records!!!
Get my point, who cares who we beat!!! a win is a win. I am sure all three of these fan bases are not upset that tehy have beat these "so called" shitty teams
-
Key words are PRIDE & CONFIDENCE. I like the pride these young men are showing & they need wins for confidence. With the kind of pride these players are showing, we'll be ok. They just never quit. The draft will be what it will be, but I sure won't hope for any losses.
Mike
It doesn't matter what little PRIDE & CONFIDENCE was manufactured last Sunday against the crap Jags, we come back to reality against Balt. and Pitt these final games, and in the end no confidence was created, only a hollow win that damamges our draft pick in the 1st round.
Look at who we beat--Dolphins, Colts, Jags and Seahags--you get "confident" from those wins?
Get real!
Now, if these wins were against San Fran, Houston, Tenn. and Oakland then HELL YA! I'd be thrilled we won last Sunday!
You guys aren't very smart.
It doesn't matter what little PRIDE & CONFIDENCE was manufactured last Sunday against the crap Jags, we come back to reality against Balt. and Pitt these final games, and in the end no confidence was created, only a hollow win that damamges our draft pick in the 1st round.
Look at who we beat--Dolphins, Colts, Jags and Seahags--you get "confident" from those wins?
Get real!
Now, if these wins were against San Fran, Houston, Tenn. and Oakland then HELL YA! I'd be thrilled we won last Sunday!
You guys aren't very smart.
You beat the teams you're supposed to beat. If you had aspirations of the Browns being a playoff team this year, YOU'RE not very smart. They were a defensive brain fart away from beating the Bengals, and a missed FG away from beating the Rams. Then you'd really be whining about the botched draft position @ 6-4.
I've done it before, but I guess I'll have to do it again- it's not where you draft, its how you draft. That Browns have monumentally blown their first round picks, as a general rule until Heckert showed up is why they have sucked. Rahim Abdullah or Lamarr Woodley in the second- ya see? And complete garbage in rounds lower than that.
Here's a short synopsis, as I'm not going to go through every "Draft of Sorrow".
1999 Couch or Edgerrin James, Ricky Williams, Torrey Holt, Champ Bailey.
2000 Courtney Brown or Jamaal Lewis, Brian Urlacher
2001 This one really hurts- Spare Change Warren, or eventual Hall of Famers LaDanian Tomlinson, Richard Seymour.
2004 Kneivel Winslow or Ben Rothlisberger and throwing away a second round pick to do so on top of it.
2005 Braylon Edwards or Aaron Rodgers
2006 Yet another gem swapping places with the Ratbirds we took journeyman Kameron Wimbley- they took Pro bowler Haloti Ngata
I'm going to stop there, but with 20\20 hindsight, I can go through virtually every draft, and find you better talent lower in the draft with maybe two exceptions- with the Joe Thomas and Joe Haden picks, the Browns finally got BPA at those slots. (And even then, the pick we gave Dallas to get busto Quinn could have been Mendenhall or Chris Johnson the following year). That in a nutshell dear Soju is why the Browns have sucked, and why losing a few draft slots isn't the end of the world.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login