Come On Browns Mngt.--Don't Screw This Up! Colt Is The Way To Go
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Nope! Colt did OK the past two weeks... against two or the worst defenses in the NFL... and he through for 1 TD and 2 INT's. Not exactly great numbers against shitty defenses. The next 6 weeks he is playing 5 top 5 defenses in Balt x2, Pitt x2, and Cinci x1. I imagine in that span of time he averages around 250 yards a game (because he throws so much from us being behind) and has something like a 1-2.5 TD to INT ratio.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Nope! Colt did OK the past two weeks... against two or the worst defenses in the NFL... and he through for 1 TD and 2 INT's. Not exactly great numbers against shitty defenses. The next 6 weeks he is playing 5 top 5 defenses in Balt x2, Pitt x2, and Cinci x1. I imagine in that span of time he averages around 250 yards a game (because he throws so much from us being behind) and has something like a 1-2.5 TD to INT ratio.
The Jags actually have a pretty decent D. I wouldn't call them terrible by any stretch of the imagination.
As far as Colt ... I can't for get about all the terrible games because of 2 decent games. Granted there is a lot wrong with the rest of the offense and the play calling. The only thing that has kept me positive about the offense has been the comparison to Drew Brees and how awful he was his first couple of years in San Diego.
At this point I wouldn't be upset if Colt was replaced, but I don't fully endorse it either. I would be much more upset if we traded several picks and Colt to draft Andrew Luck, because of the many needs we have on this team. If we were to replace him I like the idea of doing it either with Matt Flynn or a QB that is available when we pick.
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Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Nope! Colt did OK the past two weeks... against two or the worst defenses in the NFL... and he through for 1 TD and 2 INT's. Not exactly great numbers against shitty defenses. The next 6 weeks he is playing 5 top 5 defenses in Balt x2, Pitt x2, and Cinci x1. I imagine in that span of time he averages around 250 yards a game (because he throws so much from us being behind) and has something like a 1-2.5 TD to INT ratio.
The Jags actually have a pretty decent D. I wouldn't call them terrible by any stretch of the imagination.
As far as Colt ... I can't for get about all the terrible games because of 2 decent games. Granted there is a lot wrong with the rest of the offense and the play calling. The only thing that has kept me positive about the offense has been the comparison to Drew Brees and how awful he was his first couple of years in San Diego.
At this point I wouldn't be upset if Colt was replaced, but I don't fully endorse it either. I would be much more upset if we traded several picks and Colt to draft Andrew Luck, because of the many needs we have on this team. If we were to replace him I like the idea of doing it either with Matt Flynn or a QB that is available when we pick.
The Jags actually have a pretty decent D. I wouldn't call them terrible by any stretch of the imagination.
As far as Colt ... I can't for get about all the terrible games because of 2 decent games. Granted there is a lot wrong with the rest of the offense and the play calling. The only thing that has kept me positive about the offense has been the comparison to Drew Brees and how awful he was his first couple of years in San Diego.
At this point I wouldn't be upset if Colt was replaced, but I don't fully endorse it either. I would be much more upset if we traded several picks and Colt to draft Andrew Luck, because of the many needs we have on this team. If we were to replace him I like the idea of doing it either with Matt Flynn or a QB that is available when we pick.
Coming into yesterdays game the JAgs were 4th in total defense. So they are not bad at all
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Ummm......14 points?
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colt played better last year and everyone was excited about the way the browns looked until he got hurt.
between the sophomore slump and a new coach and system i think he is the least of our problems.
i'd be highly pissed off if holmgren even sniffs the buns of another QB. he should be thinking of trading down and adding another pick since we have so many positional needs. here we go again:
WR RT LB DE LB CB LB WR LB etc. etc. etc.
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The Jags actually have a pretty decent D. I wouldn't call them terrible by any stretch of the imagination.
As far as Colt ... I can't for get about all the terrible games because of 2 decent games. Granted there is a lot wrong with the rest of the offense and the play calling. The only thing that has kept me positive about the offense has been the comparison to Drew Brees and how awful he was his first couple of years in San Diego.
At this point I wouldn't be upset if Colt was replaced, but I don't fully endorse it either. I would be much more upset if we traded several picks and Colt to draft Andrew Luck, because of the many needs we have on this team. If we were to replace him I like the idea of doing it either with Matt Flynn or a QB that is available when we pick.
Coming into yesterdays game the JAgs were 4th in total defense. So they are not bad at all
Coming into yesterdays game the JAgs were 4th in total defense. So they are not bad at all
They just lost their pro-bowl CB and didnt have their best D-lineman (Pork chop or something like that)... We are also considered the best passing defense stats-wise and thats not close to being true. Just trying to be realistic.
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colt played better last year and everyone was excited about the way the browns looked until he got hurt.
between the sophomore slump and a new coach and system i think he is the least of our problems.
i'd be highly pissed off if holmgren even sniffs the buns of another QB. he should be thinking of trading down and adding another pick since we have so many positional needs. here we go again:
WR RT LB DE LB CB LB WR LB etc. etc. etc.
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I think the remaining 6 games of this season will determine the future of Colt/Shurmer/WCO what have you. We saw Sunday that if allowed to throw down field and
with to do so he can do so effectively. Colt fit some passes into tight windows and ON TIME which is the most important part for the WCO to work. Also, I'm glad to
see Jordan Norwood got a shot. He isn't a burner or deep threat, but he runs consistent routes and is quick enough to get decent YAC out of the slot. If Shurmur
continues to give Colt the ability to throw down the field and make plays, he will make our offense very good. If he doesn't, I think Colt won't mature enough this
year to stay in Cleveland. I expect the Browns to compete much better through these last 6 games, but not necessarily win.
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and what if Norwood starts seeing much more time? He has apparent big play YAC and he seems like he can get a lot more separation then the other guys(little being one who doesn't need much)
EDIT: i did NOT read the above reply before my own.
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Thats funny, I remember when I said that Ogbonnaya could be a good back for the Browns and some douchebag acted like Og was worth about a pile of shit. Turns out some people just say shit and dont know what the eff they're talking about. That said, Colt is one of the brightest spots on this team and it'd be a tough blow if yall lost him.
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Thats funny, I remember when I said that Ogbonnaya could be a good back for the Browns and some douchebag acted like Og was worth about a pile of shit. Turns out some people just say shit and dont know what the eff they're talking about. That said, Colt is one of the brightest spots on this team and it'd be a tough blow if yall lost him.
Thats funny, I remember when I said that Ogbonnaya could be a good back for the Browns and some douchebag acted like Og was worth about a pile of shit. Turns out some people just say shit and dont know what the eff they're talking about. That said, Colt is one of the brightest spots on this team and it'd be a tough blow if yall lost him.
Chris Obi Wan Kenobi should make a really good 3rd down back and back up in the league, a good Woodhead type of back. I still don't think he is a feature back though.
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Thats funny, I remember when I said that Ogbonnaya could be a good back for the Browns and some douchebag acted like Og was worth about a pile of shit. Turns out some people just say shit and dont know what the eff they're talking about. That said, Colt is one of the brightest spots on this team and it'd be a tough blow if yall lost him.
Chris Obi Wan Kenobi should make a really good 3rd down back and back up in the league, a good Woodhead type of back. I still don't think he is a feature back though.
Hillis-iz-Boss said:
Chris Obi Wan Kenobi should make a really good 3rd down back and back up in the league, a good Woodhead type of back. I still don't think he is a feature back though.
fair enough but i recall some snob coming on and talking about how he was worthless, the day he got picked up by the Browns. Can't remember his name though. . .
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Thats funny, I remember when I said that Ogbonnaya could be a good back for the Browns and some douchebag acted like Og was worth about a pile of shit. Turns out some people just say shit and dont know what the eff they're talking about. That said, Colt is one of the brightest spots on this team and it'd be a tough blow if yall lost him.
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what do you mean y'all? i thought you were one of us?
you know what, i think we'd all be better off if you weren't. thanks anyways. comprende pendicky?
My home team in the Dallas Cowboys but I like to come in and chat about Browns football. I started off watching the Browns when they picked up Colt McCoy and have been watching all the games online because they aren't broacast in my area very often, since last year. I actually have Payton Hillis (unfortunately) on my fantasy football team and the Browns are the team I follow the most consistently, in the NFL. As for whether or not everyone else would be better off, calm down and stop speaking for everyone. Its a football forum and I can say whatever the hell I want.
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what do you mean y'all? i thought you were one of us?
you know what, i think we'd all be better off if you weren't. thanks anyways. comprende pendicky?
and what the heck is a pendicky? I looked it up on Google and nothing popped up which is saying a lot because google runs a search on just about every source imaginable.
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Its not like I'm on here trolling the forum when the Browns lose. In fact, I congratulate and offer my opinion, usually with a supportive message, unlike half of the whiners on this message board. Case in point, when the thread went up about yall picking up Ogbonnaya, I went on and said he was a good acquisition and that he might do good. And there were haters on here saying that he was no good and worth dropping. Then what happens? He puts up a 100 yd game for the Cleveland Browns.
http://thebrownsboar...showtopic=20480
Matter of fact Hillisizboss was saying the same ish on that thread, that it was premature to knock Ogbonnaya cause he had just been signed.
Latch on to the good. Browns got a W, colt put up good numbers again and found better protection, run game was more consistent.
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Straight masochism!! If McCoy starts next season so be it, but getting pissed about the possibility he won't is hard to imagine. Its like being pissed that you didn't get cut off in traffic. He's shown NOTHING all season. Yes the coach sucks, the o line sucks, the wrs and rbs suck, whatever else you want to say, I probably agree. But guess what....he blends in so well I can't tell he doesn't suck either.
I don't get some of you at all. If we were going to play a team with McCoy on it, we would be talking about how he sucks and how we should win that one. Delusional. F<>k it, trade the whole offense away. Spread the disease to the rest of league. We struggle to swim with the small fish, and get eaten and shit out by the big ones. If you want more of that your sick. Remember the backward pass/interception (cincy game) and the passes to god knows where (every game)? Where were you?
I dunno maybe its just me but it seems like McCoy gets all the credit when we win (suck less than the other team) and gets a ton of built-in excuses when we lose. Its one way or the other, not both. He was OK on Sunday, but that doesn't make up for painful to watch football he has played most of the season.
Give him the rest of the season. If he sucks the rest of the way, draft a real qb talent and let him watch what not to do for a season. Then ship McCoy out and let a real talent drive the offense that should, in theory, be 2 drafts stronger. Its time browns fans get over their battered woman syndrome. I know I'm not protecting the abusers anymore.
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