Pioli Favors Ferentz
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I scouted him for five years..........he has NOT what it takes..............case closed..........you can hate me for diss too
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If it is indeed Ferentz, then I'm pretty concerned. The guy's been out of the NFL for ten years...
Then again, his zone blocking system will do wonders for Thomas and Steinbach (a former Hawkeye).
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Grossi's hearing that even if Pioli is hired, he won't be formally offered the job until after Rick McKay's been interviewed tomorrow.
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OBR is reporting that negotiations have ended for now. Pioli is expected to listen to the Chiefs' offer, and Rich McKay will be interviewed for the GM job tomorrow.
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Yep, everything's going peachy.
Next up for an interview: the guy who hired Bobby Petrino
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The concern I have of hiring an NFL OC or DC over a CFB HC is that once the DC/OC is hired, he no longer can run the D/O. Just because he can run a D/O does not mean he can run a team. We need a guy with HC experience to turn this around, not some first time HC who was a good OC/DC.
Tomlin took over a good team. We don't have a good team. We may have good players, but not a good team.
That said Ferentz is not my pick - not by a long shot.
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Kirk Ferentz is not championship material.........PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kirk Ferentz is not championship material.........PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree. If Ferentz is hired, I'm on the wagon with Ghoolie and Rich.
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The concern I have of hiring an NFL OC or DC over a CFB HC is that once the DC/OC is hired, he no longer can run the D/O. Just because he can run a D/O does not mean he can run a team. We need a guy with HC experience to turn this around, not some first time HC who was a good OC/DC.
Tomlin took over a good team. We don't have a good team. We may have good players, but not a good team.
That said Ferentz is not my pick - not by a long shot.
The concern I have of hiring an NFL OC or DC over a CFB HC is that once the DC/OC is hired, he no longer can run the D/O. Just because he can run a D/O does not mean he can run a team. We need a guy with HC experience to turn this around, not some first time HC who was a good OC/DC.
Tomlin took over a good team. We don't have a good team. We may have good players, but not a good team.
That said Ferentz is not my pick - not by a long shot.
Ravens, Falcons werent good teams and they hired coaches like that.
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The concern I have of hiring an NFL OC or DC over a CFB HC is that once the DC/OC is hired, he no longer can run the D/O. Just because he can run a D/O does not mean he can run a team. We need a guy with HC experience to turn this around, not some first time HC who was a good OC/DC.
Tomlin took over a good team. We don't have a good team. We may have good players, but not a good team.
That said Ferentz is not my pick - not by a long shot.
Ravens, Falcons werent good teams and they hired coaches like that.
Ravens, Falcons werent good teams and they hired coaches like that.
The Ravens have a stable front office. ATL has Arthur Blank, who actually has a clue, and Rich McKay.
We have none of that. They also haven't really accomplished anything yet. Let's see what happens next year when they are playing a much tougher schedule. We've seen ourselves that one good season may just be fool's gold.
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Ravens, Falcons werent good teams and they hired coaches like that.
The Ravens have a stable front office. ATL has Arthur Blank, who actually has a clue, and Rich McKay.
We have none of that. They also haven't really accomplished anything yet. Let's see what happens next year when they are playing a much tougher schedule. We've seen ourselves that one good season may just be fool's gold.
The Ravens have a stable front office. ATL has Arthur Blank, who actually has a clue, and Rich McKay.
We have none of that. They also haven't really accomplished anything yet. Let's see what happens next year when they are playing a much tougher schedule. We've seen ourselves that one good season may just be fool's gold.
Arthur Blank gave Vick a huge extension, he doesn't have a clue at all
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The concern I have of hiring an NFL OC or DC over a CFB HC is that once the DC/OC is hired, he no longer can run the D/O. Just because he can run a D/O does not mean he can run a team. We need a guy with HC experience to turn this around, not some first time HC who was a good OC/DC.
Tomlin took over a good team. We don't have a good team. We may have good players, but not a good team.
That said Ferentz is not my pick - not by a long shot.
Ravens, Falcons werent good teams and they hired coaches like that.
Ravens, Falcons werent good teams and they hired coaches like that.
The Ravens were a good team. They had no HC worth a shit after his D could not bail him out.
Atlanta did well, and so did Miami. They also played shit schedules. I know we'll play a shit schedule next season, I am concerned about the year after when we play "that" schedule.
We'll see how Sparano and Harbaugh and Smith do in 2009.
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Ravens, Falcons werent good teams and they hired coaches like that.
The Ravens were a good team. They had no HC worth a shit after his D could not bail him out.
Atlanta did well, and so did Miami. They also played shit schedules. I know we'll play a shit schedule next season, I am concerned about the year after when we play "that" schedule.
We'll see how Sparano and Harbaugh and Smith do in 2009.
The Ravens were a good team. They had no HC worth a shit after his D could not bail him out.
Atlanta did well, and so did Miami. They also played shit schedules. I know we'll play a shit schedule next season, I am concerned about the year after when we play "that" schedule.
We'll see how Sparano and Harbaugh and Smith do in 2009.
Atlanta didnt play a shit schedule. They played the NFC south (no teams with a losing record in the division), Vikings are a playoff team, Denver, Chargers a playoff team. That schedule wasnt easy at all. -
The Ravens have a stable front office. ATL has Arthur Blank, who actually has a clue, and Rich McKay.
We have none of that. They also haven't really accomplished anything yet. Let's see what happens next year when they are playing a much tougher schedule. We've seen ourselves that one good season may just be fool's gold.
Arthur Blank gave Vick a huge extension, he doesn't have a clue at all
Arthur Blank gave Vick a huge extension, he doesn't have a clue at all
he's a football guy who made a bad call. Do we need to list all of the first round busts?
ATL schedule was weak - opponents had 88 wins, 119 losses, and 1 tie. Winning % of .423. That's a weak schedule. Sorry it doesn't fit with your theory.
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I just seen on ESPN that the Browns are prepared to make a huge offer to Pioli and Pioli said he favors Ferentz for HC.
I just seen on ESPN that the Browns are prepared to make a huge offer to Pioli and Pioli said he favors Ferentz for HC.
I hope beyond hope that Pioli is the guy to get this organization going in the right direction.
At the same time, I worry about those reports that say that Pioli favors a coach like Ferentz when accomplished people like Shannahan, Holmgren, etc., etc, etc, are possibly available.
I'd prefer Elmer Fudd to that Fuddin' Ferentz.
Talk about taking all the luster off the shine.
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The Ravens were a good team. They had no HC worth a shit after his D could not bail him out.
Atlanta did well, and so did Miami. They also played shit schedules. I know we'll play a shit schedule next season, I am concerned about the year after when we play "that" schedule.
We'll see how Sparano and Harbaugh and Smith do in 2009.
Atlanta didnt play a shit schedule. They played the NFC south (no teams with a losing record in the division), Vikings are a playoff team, Denver, Chargers a playoff team. That schedule wasnt easy at all. Atlanta didnt play a shit schedule. They played the NFC south (no teams with a losing record in the division), Vikings are a playoff team, Denver, Chargers a playoff team. That schedule wasnt easy at all.Shit may have been a bad choice on my part, given that they played a last place/4-12 schedule, just like ours last year. They did play CAR/TB/NO twice, but they also had DEN, KC, DET, OAK, GB and STL on the schedule. Not the toughest, not the easiest. I give them credit, and I like them.
Lets see how they do in 2009 with a first place schedule. They are a feel good team this season and I like the make up of the roster, and the FO.
And hey, Smith came in a took advantage of a team that signed M Turner and kicked ass. Not even RAC could do that.
I guess my point is that Sparano, Smith and Harbaugh all played last place schedules, and while they had very successful seasons, it was one season. With the Browns, I would sleep better at night knowing we could get Pioli and Shanahan. Knowing that is not going to happen, I'd settle for Schwartz and Pioli/Mckay.
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Zombo said:
--That's all I got. Seems like a bland choice ... of course so did Tony Sparano and Mike Smith.Those were beyond-bland choices that I shook my head at but ultimately worked out, I guess. Perhaps we'll have similar luck...
mz. said:
Those were beyond-bland choices that I shook my head at but ultimately worked out, I guess. Perhaps we'll have similar luck...They worked out for a year so far, we'll see down the road.
The NFL is a reactionary, copycat league. I think sometimes people are too quick to coronate someone the next greatest thing or the vestige of failure.
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