Colts Days As A Starter Should Be Over.
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PPE6.6 has proved to be a raging ass in his 26 posts...and then tops it all by saying cats suck...
Lets see... he obviously doesn't know a thing about football since he thinks Colt is a good QB... what an ass!
And now attacks cats... just sad! And then to top it.... what kind of a login is PPE6.6 hmmmm loser!!!!
Go root for the steelers ass wipe!
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Will McCoy ever start for Browns again?
Colt McCoy's season apparently is done. He hasn't been cleared by the team's medical staff after sustaining a concussion on Dec. 8 and likely won't play in the regular-season finale against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
But are his days as the Browns' starting quarterback over as well?
Everyone in the Cleveland front office -- from team president Mike Holmgren to general manager Tom Heckert to coach Pat Shurmur -- has remained noncommittal on McCoy's future. They refuse to evaluate his season, saying that will happen after the season.
If you're McCoy, it's not a good sign when Holmgren gives Shurmur a strong vote of confidence during the season but doesn't do the same for the quarterback. That doesn't mean McCoy is out as the Browns' starter. It says to me that the Browns are going to look around, either in free agency or the draft, to improve the quarterback position. If the Browns can't, they can always go back to McCoy.
In his first full season as a starter, McCoy ranked 25th in completion percentage (57.2), 25th in passing yards per game (210.2), 32nd in yards per attempt (5.9) and 27th in passer rating (74.6). Some argue that McCoy's statistics are low because the Browns are tied for the most drops in the NFL (31) and have struggled to protect him.
The quarterback position will be the hot topic in Cleveland this offseason. With the potential to have the fourth overall pick in the draft, the Browns could have the opportunity to take Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/39076/will-mccoy-ever-start-for-browns-again
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I think the Browns need to look for a QB via free agency.
Top Quarterbacks
Matt Flynn (GB) - As far as realistic, long-term options go, Matt Flynn may be the most pursued man. In his lone regular season appearance, he moved the Packers offense up and down the field in a national game, and almost knocked off a Patriots team in their house. He lacks the ideal tools, but plenty of quarterbacks have done more with less. Flynn has been taught by and learned from the best in Green Bay and will be ready to see if his career holds more than a clipboard.
Kyle Orton (DEN) - Orton is inconsistent and about as middle-of-the-road as they come at quarterback. He can spin the ball well, but doesn't make the quickest decisions-and sometimes not the best. He's not a quarterback that will truly impress anyone as a starter, but is comfortably one of the 32 best this league has to offer. The Broncos probably won't want him back for another round of mediocrity, but he's the type of player that will play himself into the starting lineup with a younger prospect consistently vying for his position.
Jason Campbell (OAK) - Campbell has been fairly efficient as the quarterback for the Raiders. With the Raiders finally appearing to turn the corner, they may look to retain Campbell's services on a short term deal as they continue to improve the rest of the roster and build a hard-nosed, winning environment. Unlike some of the other quarterbacks in this class, Campbell's greatest hindrance is not his skillset, but rather his confidence and vision in determining when to push the ball down the field.
Donovan McNabb (MIN) - McNabb's best years are behind him; and he's probably destined to play out the rest of his career as a back-up or a starter amongst the league's bottomfeeders. One will prolong his stay in the NFL, while the other will cut it short. One thing appears clear though. The Vikings have not had the success they anticipated coming into the year and are likely to turn to Ponder by the start of next year at the very latest. More realistically, McNabb will be riding the bench after the team's bye week.
The Rest:
Chris Redman (ATL)
Derek Anderson (CAR)
Shaun Hill (DET)
Drew Stanton (DET)
Brady Quinn (DEN)
David Garrard (FA)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Chad Henne (MIA)
Sage Rosenfels (MIA)
David Carr (NYG)
Mark Brunell (NYJ)
Kevin O'Connell (NYJ)
Kyle Boller (OAK)
Vince Young (PHI)
Charlie Batch (PIT)
Dennis Dixon (PIT)
Byron Leftwich (PIT)
Charlie Whitehurst (SEA)
A.J. Feeley (STL)
Josh Johnson (TB)
Rex Grossman (WAS)
Anyone you guys think might be viable ?
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Eh, I'd say Colt needs more weapons. Our offense is bad no matter who's out there at QB. With a shortened offseason and a new coach, new system(playbook, language, and scheme), new OC(also the HC) and lack of a blocking FB- it's hard to come right out and be productive right away!
That said however, I've seen enough of him to judge what kind of a QB he is...
He's tough as nails for an undersized guy. He takes chances and trusts his arm. He's mobile and extends plays with his feet. He certainly doesn't have a noodle for an arm(I've seen plays where he thrown the ball 10 yards past a player 40 yards down the field. If that WR were faster it's a TD- no contest. Plenty of dropped passes and WR's falling to break a tackle and pick up the YAC(which nearly every other team I've watched all year- their players break a few tackles and make the QB look good). Some plays before Colt has time to read the defense the play clock is nearly 0... the HC has too much on his plate to get the plays in quick enough to help Colt read and recognize the blitz scheme and call audibles. The play calling this year has been suspect, even when the play breaks down Colt repeatedly makes something out of nothing. His #1 HB has been injured nearly all year. He's relied on Hands-of-Steel-desty and Obiwankinobi for most the year. Our change of pace back when out in the preseason.
A lot has been bad this year and it's not all on Colt. I think you trust Joe Thomas 5 time NFL ProBowler when he says "He believes in Colt and he'll be a good QB." JMHO
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Ha jibz im done with you. you already have your mind made up so its no use for anyone to post or try to have a decent conversation. I would just like to see colt with some talent and a chance thats all. Im so sick and tired of changing crap every single year and sucking and sucking and sucking but obviously you're fine with it. Like you said i guess ill have to go watch other pros play on sunday to "see what colt should be doing".....what time do the rams play this weekend? #1 draft pick bradford had a decent season last year, now his OC is gone and he has what 2 wins? I guess having to learn something new doesnt really matter all that much ya know? GOD your helpless.
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The thing that worries me about Colt, is his digression this year. Last year he looked good in the pocket, and looked confident. This year he has looked impatient, nervous and not at all the same last year. Is that because of the new offense. Lack of confidence in his OL? Lack of confidence in himself or maybe the coaching staff and the play calling. I don't know, but Colt digressed this year. He looked better in pre-season this year. I don't get it.
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As long as the weapons are sub-par, no QB will be the answer! Look back at the last 6 years. With a below agerage O Line and no real #1 reciever (Edwards was good, but woops!)it's been difficult for any QB to play consistant. I still liked Anderson in his sort of prime, but got beat to hell. Too bad he didn't Hillis.Wallace is an OK fit right now because of his experience and mobility. Colt has potential, but it may never get there!
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I think the Browns need to look for a QB via free agency.
Top Quarterbacks
Matt Flynn (GB) - As far as realistic, long-term options go, Matt Flynn may be the most pursued man. In his lone regular season appearance, he moved the Packers offense up and down the field in a national game, and almost knocked off a Patriots team in their house. He lacks the ideal tools, but plenty of quarterbacks have done more with less. Flynn has been taught by and learned from the best in Green Bay and will be ready to see if his career holds more than a clipboard.
Kyle Orton (DEN) - Orton is inconsistent and about as middle-of-the-road as they come at quarterback. He can spin the ball well, but doesn't make the quickest decisions-and sometimes not the best. He's not a quarterback that will truly impress anyone as a starter, but is comfortably one of the 32 best this league has to offer. The Broncos probably won't want him back for another round of mediocrity, but he's the type of player that will play himself into the starting lineup with a younger prospect consistently vying for his position.
Jason Campbell (OAK) - Campbell has been fairly efficient as the quarterback for the Raiders. With the Raiders finally appearing to turn the corner, they may look to retain Campbell's services on a short term deal as they continue to improve the rest of the roster and build a hard-nosed, winning environment. Unlike some of the other quarterbacks in this class, Campbell's greatest hindrance is not his skillset, but rather his confidence and vision in determining when to push the ball down the field.
Donovan McNabb (MIN) - McNabb's best years are behind him; and he's probably destined to play out the rest of his career as a back-up or a starter amongst the league's bottomfeeders. One will prolong his stay in the NFL, while the other will cut it short. One thing appears clear though. The Vikings have not had the success they anticipated coming into the year and are likely to turn to Ponder by the start of next year at the very latest. More realistically, McNabb will be riding the bench after the team's bye week.
The Rest:
Chris Redman (ATL)
Derek Anderson (CAR)
Shaun Hill (DET)
Drew Stanton (DET)
Brady Quinn (DEN)
David Garrard (FA)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Chad Henne (MIA)
Sage Rosenfels (MIA)
David Carr (NYG)
Mark Brunell (NYJ)
Kevin O'Connell (NYJ)
Kyle Boller (OAK)
Vince Young (PHI)
Charlie Batch (PIT)
Dennis Dixon (PIT)
Byron Leftwich (PIT)
Charlie Whitehurst (SEA)
A.J. Feeley (STL)
Josh Johnson (TB)
Rex Grossman (WAS)
Anyone you guys think might be viable ?
I think the Browns need to look for a QB via free agency.
Top Quarterbacks
Matt Flynn (GB) - As far as realistic, long-term options go, Matt Flynn may be the most pursued man. In his lone regular season appearance, he moved the Packers offense up and down the field in a national game, and almost knocked off a Patriots team in their house. He lacks the ideal tools, but plenty of quarterbacks have done more with less. Flynn has been taught by and learned from the best in Green Bay and will be ready to see if his career holds more than a clipboard.
Kyle Orton (DEN) - Orton is inconsistent and about as middle-of-the-road as they come at quarterback. He can spin the ball well, but doesn't make the quickest decisions-and sometimes not the best. He's not a quarterback that will truly impress anyone as a starter, but is comfortably one of the 32 best this league has to offer. The Broncos probably won't want him back for another round of mediocrity, but he's the type of player that will play himself into the starting lineup with a younger prospect consistently vying for his position.
Jason Campbell (OAK) - Campbell has been fairly efficient as the quarterback for the Raiders. With the Raiders finally appearing to turn the corner, they may look to retain Campbell's services on a short term deal as they continue to improve the rest of the roster and build a hard-nosed, winning environment. Unlike some of the other quarterbacks in this class, Campbell's greatest hindrance is not his skillset, but rather his confidence and vision in determining when to push the ball down the field.
Donovan McNabb (MIN) - McNabb's best years are behind him; and he's probably destined to play out the rest of his career as a back-up or a starter amongst the league's bottomfeeders. One will prolong his stay in the NFL, while the other will cut it short. One thing appears clear though. The Vikings have not had the success they anticipated coming into the year and are likely to turn to Ponder by the start of next year at the very latest. More realistically, McNabb will be riding the bench after the team's bye week.
The Rest:
Chris Redman (ATL)
Derek Anderson (CAR)
Shaun Hill (DET)
Drew Stanton (DET)
Brady Quinn (DEN)
David Garrard (FA)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Chad Henne (MIA)
Sage Rosenfels (MIA)
David Carr (NYG)
Mark Brunell (NYJ)
Kevin O'Connell (NYJ)
Kyle Boller (OAK)
Vince Young (PHI)
Charlie Batch (PIT)
Dennis Dixon (PIT)
Byron Leftwich (PIT)
Charlie Whitehurst (SEA)
A.J. Feeley (STL)
Josh Johnson (TB)
Rex Grossman (WAS)
Anyone you guys think might be viable ?
The only one to consider as a starter is Shaun Hill. He has produced every time he has filled in at Detroit! Rosenfelds or Henne could bring a slight upgrade, but would have to come cheep to sign.
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I think the Browns need to look for a QB via free agency.
Top Quarterbacks
Matt Flynn (GB) - As far as realistic, long-term options go, Matt Flynn may be the most pursued man. In his lone regular season appearance, he moved the Packers offense up and down the field in a national game, and almost knocked off a Patriots team in their house. He lacks the ideal tools, but plenty of quarterbacks have done more with less. Flynn has been taught by and learned from the best in Green Bay and will be ready to see if his career holds more than a clipboard.
Kyle Orton (DEN) - Orton is inconsistent and about as middle-of-the-road as they come at quarterback. He can spin the ball well, but doesn't make the quickest decisions-and sometimes not the best. He's not a quarterback that will truly impress anyone as a starter, but is comfortably one of the 32 best this league has to offer. The Broncos probably won't want him back for another round of mediocrity, but he's the type of player that will play himself into the starting lineup with a younger prospect consistently vying for his position.
Jason Campbell (OAK) - Campbell has been fairly efficient as the quarterback for the Raiders. With the Raiders finally appearing to turn the corner, they may look to retain Campbell's services on a short term deal as they continue to improve the rest of the roster and build a hard-nosed, winning environment. Unlike some of the other quarterbacks in this class, Campbell's greatest hindrance is not his skillset, but rather his confidence and vision in determining when to push the ball down the field.
Donovan McNabb (MIN) - McNabb's best years are behind him; and he's probably destined to play out the rest of his career as a back-up or a starter amongst the league's bottomfeeders. One will prolong his stay in the NFL, while the other will cut it short. One thing appears clear though. The Vikings have not had the success they anticipated coming into the year and are likely to turn to Ponder by the start of next year at the very latest. More realistically, McNabb will be riding the bench after the team's bye week.
The Rest:
Chris Redman (ATL)
Derek Anderson (CAR)
Shaun Hill (DET)
Drew Stanton (DET)
Brady Quinn (DEN)
David Garrard (FA)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Chad Henne (MIA)
Sage Rosenfels (MIA)
David Carr (NYG)
Mark Brunell (NYJ)
Kevin O'Connell (NYJ)
Kyle Boller (OAK)
Vince Young (PHI)
Charlie Batch (PIT)
Dennis Dixon (PIT)
Byron Leftwich (PIT)
Charlie Whitehurst (SEA)
A.J. Feeley (STL)
Josh Johnson (TB)
Rex Grossman (WAS)
Anyone you guys think might be viable ?
I think the Browns need to look for a QB via free agency.
Top Quarterbacks
Matt Flynn (GB) - As far as realistic, long-term options go, Matt Flynn may be the most pursued man. In his lone regular season appearance, he moved the Packers offense up and down the field in a national game, and almost knocked off a Patriots team in their house. He lacks the ideal tools, but plenty of quarterbacks have done more with less. Flynn has been taught by and learned from the best in Green Bay and will be ready to see if his career holds more than a clipboard.
Kyle Orton (DEN) - Orton is inconsistent and about as middle-of-the-road as they come at quarterback. He can spin the ball well, but doesn't make the quickest decisions-and sometimes not the best. He's not a quarterback that will truly impress anyone as a starter, but is comfortably one of the 32 best this league has to offer. The Broncos probably won't want him back for another round of mediocrity, but he's the type of player that will play himself into the starting lineup with a younger prospect consistently vying for his position.
Jason Campbell (OAK) - Campbell has been fairly efficient as the quarterback for the Raiders. With the Raiders finally appearing to turn the corner, they may look to retain Campbell's services on a short term deal as they continue to improve the rest of the roster and build a hard-nosed, winning environment. Unlike some of the other quarterbacks in this class, Campbell's greatest hindrance is not his skillset, but rather his confidence and vision in determining when to push the ball down the field.
Donovan McNabb (MIN) - McNabb's best years are behind him; and he's probably destined to play out the rest of his career as a back-up or a starter amongst the league's bottomfeeders. One will prolong his stay in the NFL, while the other will cut it short. One thing appears clear though. The Vikings have not had the success they anticipated coming into the year and are likely to turn to Ponder by the start of next year at the very latest. More realistically, McNabb will be riding the bench after the team's bye week.
The Rest:
Chris Redman (ATL)
Derek Anderson (CAR)
Shaun Hill (DET)
Drew Stanton (DET)
Brady Quinn (DEN)
David Garrard (FA)
Luke McCown (JAC)
Chad Henne (MIA)
Sage Rosenfels (MIA)
David Carr (NYG)
Mark Brunell (NYJ)
Kevin O'Connell (NYJ)
Kyle Boller (OAK)
Vince Young (PHI)
Charlie Batch (PIT)
Dennis Dixon (PIT)
Byron Leftwich (PIT)
Charlie Whitehurst (SEA)
A.J. Feeley (STL)
Josh Johnson (TB)
Rex Grossman (WAS)
Anyone you guys think might be viable ?
My vote is for Anderson and Quinn. We'd have an arm that could hit Little down the field or a dumper who can make all the WCO throws.
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No way should we look for a QB in FA. Every time we do that is costs us and they don't work out or produce. I say stick with Colt and develop another QB coming out. With all the FA QB's out there, you know what they are, backups or mediocre at best. FA should come in by way of DE, LB, CB, and S. On Offense I'd take the Best OL.
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But... have any of the QB's we picked since 1999 gone on to have successful careers with other teams? No! They were all apparently bad QB's so...... what your is saying is a bad QB is good enough for the Browns... I don't understand the logic...
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But... have any of the QB's we picked since 1999 gone on to have successful careers with other teams? No! They were all apparently bad QB's so...... what your is saying is a bad QB is good enough for the Browns... I don't understand the logic...
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I really do like McCoy, wish he was going to be the one to return this team to relevance, but I don't see it. We have all watched him these last two years. McCoy has all the intangibles, but missing the measurables. Too small, and I don't only mean height, he is skinny, and with too small comes not strong enough. Please don't compare his size to Montana or Sipe. Sipe never actually won anything and Montana was a once in a generation player surrounded by great talent. Looking at the league all the best teams have their franchise qb, until we get ours we will be lost in the wilderness.
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With the 4th pick overall you have to think the Browns will address QB straightaway.
Coach Holmgren: "I made the decision to keep Eric [Mangini] and every day I know I did the right thing."
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