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  • PoeticG PoeticGP Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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    Okay here's a football Highlight of Kendall Wright lol:

    Here's a better one:

    So I'd say that picking Kendall Wright("the guy can pretty much catch anything", says RG3.) would make Colt look really good. Just like Wright said, it's up to him to make RG3 look good, just as Little and the rest of the guys on this team made Colt look BAD with 30+ DROPS... Kendall, Little, Mitchell, Cribbs, and Momass at WR next year will pay dividends for the Browns offensive production!

    KENDALL AT #22 OVERALL IN THE NFL DRAFT!

    If we only get one WR lets get Kendall! Speed + Hands = TD

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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      TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns wrote on last edited by
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      McCoy should and will be the starter next year. Even if there's competition, Colt should start. Time to get him some weapons and truly get the ball rolling with a more threatening offense. Pad the defense with some studs too

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        So Kendall works for our WR needs with the 22nd overall pick. What should we do with the number 4 overall selection? Our most pressing positions that need to be addressed are as follows: CB/FS/OLB/DE on D and RT/RG/HB/WR on O. Are these situations at each position dire or do we just feel they are dire. Lets look at the four positions of need on the Offense here first since the O really didn't get going at all last season. The D however seemed to hold their own, if the Offense scores more points we win a lot more games.

        RT/RG/HB/FB/WR- These are the positions I feel we need to get better on. Now when I say that I mean we can do that one of three ways. We can deal with it in house, by letting someone on the team already raise their level of play to be suitable in the position. We can Draft someone. Or we can address the position in Free Agency. I feel if we draft someone they should be someone we cannot do without for the next 10 years. That's the only way it's justifiable to spend a first rounder.

        So. Having just stated that even though I'm suggesting spending a #22 overall for a speedster in Kendall Wright, it's a position of need that we'll have for awhile. We're always gonna need a speedster on the WR core. As of now we do not. And as he ages he'll just move down the depth chart ala. hines ward. I feel that Kendall Wright could be to us what Ward has been to the steelers. So having addressed the WR position it just leaves RT/RG/HB/FB.

        On to the RG/RT position... Okay so on the line we have A)Joe Thomas and B)Alex Mack. I think those two will be great for 7 more years at their current position. At LG we have a need there if Steinbach is done. If he isn't how long until he is? Is Pinkston his replacement? In the short term if he does return he'll man the LG. So C left we're good. AT RT/RG I think Lavaman and Pinkston will most likely be our guys. I would find a latter round steal to give the position depth here. But please, find a guy that will block! This is the AFC NORTH- no teddybears on the Oline, PLEASE!

        That leaves us HB and FB left to address on the Offense, weird huh, you would think we needed like 7 or 8 guys but in reality we just need to improve marginally as a whole and we'll be competitive throughout the season into the playoffs.

        FB- Is Marecic the answer? He's no Vickers that's for sure. I think that was a big part of the let down on this kid. He cracked a lot of helmets in college but in the pros it's his head that's getting cracked. I say move the kid to LB and see what he's got because FB is not his forte. We need to invest in a late round FB to compete with Marcic and give us fans hope for the future of the position.

        What I feel would be the VERY BEST SOLUTION to this equation is to kill two birds with one stone! What we would have to do is to resign Peyton Hillis as our teams HB/FB. In the draft we need to pick up the kid from Alabama. Trent Richardson. He's fast and can catch the ball, although I feel Peyton has better hands that is what a good WC fullback has to do. With Peyton taking a backseat role to Richardson it will increase his durability and longevity in the NFL. He'll still get his carries but Trent will spell him and be the compliment that Hillis needs. In I formation sets Hillis will line up in front of Richardson and you could even switch the two back and forth. It would really improve our stable of RBs.

        You would have: Trent Richardson, Peyton Hillis, Brandon Jackson, and Montario Hardesty.

        I don't know if you'd want to carry 4 RBs 5 if count Marecic but as we've seen last season, you can't have enough guys that can tote the rock. If you're not a threat to run the ball... let's just say it's baaaad for your offense.

        So, I'm proposing taking Trent Richardson with the 4th pick and Kendall Wright with the 22nd. Trade a second and a fourth to move back up in the first to select Vontaze Burfict. Call it an A.

        The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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          PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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          SportScience Trent Richardson:

          Trent Richardson Highlight Video:

          Wow freaking amazing!!

          Hillis and Richardson are going to be a DEADLY combo and I'll I can say is... I pity the fool!

          The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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            PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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            At 8:35 above he goes all Jim Brown...

            Brown said he never wanted to run out of bounds because it is a sign of weakness. He always wanted to run through a defender, put a forearm in his chest. I see a lot of Jim Brown in Trent Richardson. Granted Jim Brown was 6'2 232 and Richardson is 5'11 224, so he's a smaller Jim Brown.

            We took JB in the first round with the 6th overall pick of the 1957 Draft. It's fitting we take Richardson with the 4th overall pick of the 2012 NFL Draft.

            The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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              PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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              On Offense next year we could look like this:

              QB- COLT McCOY

              HB- TRENT RICHARDSON

              FB- PEYTON HILLIS

              TE- EVAN MOORE

              TE- JORDAN CAMERON

              TE- BEN WATSON

              WR- GREG LITTLE

              WR- KENDALL WRIGHT

              WR- JOSH CRIBBS

              WR- MOHAMMED MASSAQUOI

              WR- CARLTON MITCHELL

              IT'S A START!

              The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                D dj_illness wrote on last edited by
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                if those are are starters at TE/WR, I will punch you.

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                  W why cant we win wrote on last edited by
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                  why is anyone comparing a combo of blackmon and little to momass and robo you can not compare those to combos blackmon is the next calvin johnson , larry fitzgerald and if we got him and had little to complement blackmon it would make our offense a little more respectable.

                  a blackmon little combo would be like boldin and fitzgerald combo

                  you get colt a right side of the line and you might have a qb after all in colt

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                    if those are are starters at TE/WR, I will punch you.

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                    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                    @dj_illness said:

                    if those are are starters at TE/WR, I will punch you.

                    LOL!!! Why punch me, lol? I said that could be our offense, that's not counting Free Agency. If we were to sign a Great WR in FA that only helps! Think Desean Jackson, Kendall Wright, Greg Little, Josh Cribbs, Mitchell(nasty injury last year, still has potential), Momass(solid well rounded possession receiver that can take a hit, tough kid). What is wrong with the TE's? Watson might be back and he still a solid vet at 30+, Moore is a big sure handed target and Jordan Cameron just started to get playing time, I think Cameron is going to be good, he's quick and big with a good vertical, nice hands and everything, he will get better the more PT he gets!

                    I think that we'll be okay with what I stated, although we have to find the right pieces at RG/RT in order for anything to be successful...

                    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                      why is anyone comparing a combo of blackmon and little to momass and robo you can not compare those to combos blackmon is the next calvin johnson , larry fitzgerald and if we got him and had little to complement blackmon it would make our offense a little more respectable.

                      a blackmon little combo would be like boldin and fitzgerald combo

                      you get colt a right side of the line and you might have a qb after all in colt

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                      PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by PoeticG
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                      @why-cant-we-win said:

                      why is anyone comparing a combo of blackmon and little to momass and robo you can not compare those to combos blackmon is the next calvin johnson , larry fitzgerald and if we got him and had little to complement blackmon it would make our offense a little more respectable.

                      a blackmon little combo would be like boldin and fitzgerald combo

                      you get colt a right side of the line and you might have a qb after all in colt

                      I wasn't comparing the combos of Robo and Momass to Blackmon and Little. Clearly the Blackmon and Little combo would win out, what I was stating is that "I see" both Little and Blackmon as being from the same mold- much like Robo and Momass being from the same mold. You don't need two of the same type WR on the field. I feel like Little would be most complemented with a speedy smaller type wr rather than another receiver that is similar to himself. Thus allowing us to get our RB in Trent Richardson and our WR in Kendall Wright... as opposed to getting Blackmon as our WR at 4 and a speedy rb at 22.

                      The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                        Trent Richardson will NOT be the pick at 4, book it. Heckert commented about how running backs are always hurt and that coupled with this performance tonight should lock up the fact that he won't be a Cleveland Brown next year. Blackmon isn't worth the pick and will probably be gone anyway, you don't take a RT that high in the draft and picking a defensive player would be suicide if RG3 is on the board. Cam Newton turned a 2 win team into a 6 win team, Manning won 10 games two years ago with the same team that won 3 games this year. QB is the most important position, period.

                        The drop off at the QB position from what we'd get at 4 to what we'd get at 22 is HUGE. The drop off of what we'd get at LB or DE or WR or even RB isn't that major. So it would only make sense to pick Griffen since he yields the highest value at that spot and fills the most important need. Then you go DE or LB with our pick at 22 and WR with our pick at 38. I guess you can flip flop that if they see fit, but those are the most probable picks for our 1st three picks. Then with our 3rd round we can go RT or RB. 4th round and on are pretty much special teams or depth guys so no huge deal there.

                        Free agency has to yield a WR and either a DE or LB, whichever we don't address in the draft.

                        No more trading back, no more mediocre players, no more losers in brown and orange. I want a damn winner or I'm done with this team. RG3 2012!!!!

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                          PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                          RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

                          The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                            so tired about hearing the qb is what we need its not even sure RG3 will be coming out this year then what, what are we going to do if he dont come out we arent trading the farm away for luck that would be stupid

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                              so tired about hearing the qb is what we need its not even sure RG3 will be coming out this year then what, what are we going to do if he dont come out we arent trading the farm away for luck that would be stupid

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                              @why-cant-we-win said:

                              so tired about hearing the qb is what we need its not even sure RG3 will be coming out this year then what, what are we going to do if he dont come out we arent trading the farm away for luck that would be stupid

                              You think RG3 will stay in college when his stock is so high there's talk about people trading up to the 2nd spot to get him? Barkely was hoping to be the 1st overall pick next year so he stayed back and Landry just needs time to get better so he made the right choice for his long term career, but nobody in their right mind stays back when they're stock is pretty much maxed out.

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                                RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

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                                @poeticg said:

                                RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

                                Well, the world disagrees with you. Every GM in the league who makes a living scouting these players thinks RG3 is better than Colt. That is why Griffen is projected to go as high as 2nd and Colt made it to the 3rd round. When you evaluate a player who look at their skill set as it could relate to the NFL. McCoy didn't have that skill set, he was a "winner" and all that BS. I said before he was drafted that we're wasting a pick. I said that his ceiling was a decent playoff caliber QB if we surround him with pro bowl talent. But he's never going to be a game changer. He'd have shown it by now if he was. RG3 will be a difference maker and he'll be a guy who will win games for you. Then when you surround him with talent is when he becomes elite and the team becomes elite. You don't have that now and there's nothing you can say that would justify that opinion.

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                                  Rooster DickR Rooster Dick wrote on last edited by
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                                  jparsh, haven't you realized that the people on this forum enjoy being 3-13?

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                                    jparsh, haven't you realized that the people on this forum enjoy being 3-13?

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                                    Chickenwang said:

                                    jparsh, haven't you realized that the people on this forum enjoy being 3-13?

                                    No, I haven't. If you notice I'm a newbie. 🙂

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                                      RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

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                                      @poeticg said:

                                      RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

                                      Oh, I'm not sold on Griffin- but it sure isn't because he lacks the physical skill set to succeed in the NFL.

                                      Griffin and McCoy are NOT the same. McCoy is mobile, Griffin has upper echelon WR track speed. McCoy's arm strength is barely adequate, Griffin has a rocket launcher arm- I'd even posit he puts a tad more zip on the ball than even Andrew Luck.

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                                        i guess wright may learn how to run the middle of the route tree sometime....he does burn.

                                        blackmon is the next fitz? sigh....

                                        its sad we cant even wait till players do anything before we know how careers will shake out.

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                                          RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

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                                          @poeticg said:

                                          RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

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