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  • D dj_illness

    if those are are starters at TE/WR, I will punch you.

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    @dj_illness said:

    if those are are starters at TE/WR, I will punch you.

    LOL!!! Why punch me, lol? I said that could be our offense, that's not counting Free Agency. If we were to sign a Great WR in FA that only helps! Think Desean Jackson, Kendall Wright, Greg Little, Josh Cribbs, Mitchell(nasty injury last year, still has potential), Momass(solid well rounded possession receiver that can take a hit, tough kid). What is wrong with the TE's? Watson might be back and he still a solid vet at 30+, Moore is a big sure handed target and Jordan Cameron just started to get playing time, I think Cameron is going to be good, he's quick and big with a good vertical, nice hands and everything, he will get better the more PT he gets!

    I think that we'll be okay with what I stated, although we have to find the right pieces at RG/RT in order for anything to be successful...

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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      why is anyone comparing a combo of blackmon and little to momass and robo you can not compare those to combos blackmon is the next calvin johnson , larry fitzgerald and if we got him and had little to complement blackmon it would make our offense a little more respectable.

      a blackmon little combo would be like boldin and fitzgerald combo

      you get colt a right side of the line and you might have a qb after all in colt

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      @why-cant-we-win said:

      why is anyone comparing a combo of blackmon and little to momass and robo you can not compare those to combos blackmon is the next calvin johnson , larry fitzgerald and if we got him and had little to complement blackmon it would make our offense a little more respectable.

      a blackmon little combo would be like boldin and fitzgerald combo

      you get colt a right side of the line and you might have a qb after all in colt

      I wasn't comparing the combos of Robo and Momass to Blackmon and Little. Clearly the Blackmon and Little combo would win out, what I was stating is that "I see" both Little and Blackmon as being from the same mold- much like Robo and Momass being from the same mold. You don't need two of the same type WR on the field. I feel like Little would be most complemented with a speedy smaller type wr rather than another receiver that is similar to himself. Thus allowing us to get our RB in Trent Richardson and our WR in Kendall Wright... as opposed to getting Blackmon as our WR at 4 and a speedy rb at 22.

      The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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        Trent Richardson will NOT be the pick at 4, book it. Heckert commented about how running backs are always hurt and that coupled with this performance tonight should lock up the fact that he won't be a Cleveland Brown next year. Blackmon isn't worth the pick and will probably be gone anyway, you don't take a RT that high in the draft and picking a defensive player would be suicide if RG3 is on the board. Cam Newton turned a 2 win team into a 6 win team, Manning won 10 games two years ago with the same team that won 3 games this year. QB is the most important position, period.

        The drop off at the QB position from what we'd get at 4 to what we'd get at 22 is HUGE. The drop off of what we'd get at LB or DE or WR or even RB isn't that major. So it would only make sense to pick Griffen since he yields the highest value at that spot and fills the most important need. Then you go DE or LB with our pick at 22 and WR with our pick at 38. I guess you can flip flop that if they see fit, but those are the most probable picks for our 1st three picks. Then with our 3rd round we can go RT or RB. 4th round and on are pretty much special teams or depth guys so no huge deal there.

        Free agency has to yield a WR and either a DE or LB, whichever we don't address in the draft.

        No more trading back, no more mediocre players, no more losers in brown and orange. I want a damn winner or I'm done with this team. RG3 2012!!!!

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          RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

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            W why cant we win wrote on last edited by
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            so tired about hearing the qb is what we need its not even sure RG3 will be coming out this year then what, what are we going to do if he dont come out we arent trading the farm away for luck that would be stupid

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              so tired about hearing the qb is what we need its not even sure RG3 will be coming out this year then what, what are we going to do if he dont come out we arent trading the farm away for luck that would be stupid

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              @why-cant-we-win said:

              so tired about hearing the qb is what we need its not even sure RG3 will be coming out this year then what, what are we going to do if he dont come out we arent trading the farm away for luck that would be stupid

              You think RG3 will stay in college when his stock is so high there's talk about people trading up to the 2nd spot to get him? Barkely was hoping to be the 1st overall pick next year so he stayed back and Landry just needs time to get better so he made the right choice for his long term career, but nobody in their right mind stays back when they're stock is pretty much maxed out.

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                RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

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                @poeticg said:

                RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

                Well, the world disagrees with you. Every GM in the league who makes a living scouting these players thinks RG3 is better than Colt. That is why Griffen is projected to go as high as 2nd and Colt made it to the 3rd round. When you evaluate a player who look at their skill set as it could relate to the NFL. McCoy didn't have that skill set, he was a "winner" and all that BS. I said before he was drafted that we're wasting a pick. I said that his ceiling was a decent playoff caliber QB if we surround him with pro bowl talent. But he's never going to be a game changer. He'd have shown it by now if he was. RG3 will be a difference maker and he'll be a guy who will win games for you. Then when you surround him with talent is when he becomes elite and the team becomes elite. You don't have that now and there's nothing you can say that would justify that opinion.

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                  Rooster DickR Rooster Dick wrote on last edited by
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                  jparsh, haven't you realized that the people on this forum enjoy being 3-13?

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                    jparsh, haven't you realized that the people on this forum enjoy being 3-13?

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                    Chickenwang said:

                    jparsh, haven't you realized that the people on this forum enjoy being 3-13?

                    No, I haven't. If you notice I'm a newbie. 🙂

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                      RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

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                      @poeticg said:

                      RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

                      Oh, I'm not sold on Griffin- but it sure isn't because he lacks the physical skill set to succeed in the NFL.

                      Griffin and McCoy are NOT the same. McCoy is mobile, Griffin has upper echelon WR track speed. McCoy's arm strength is barely adequate, Griffin has a rocket launcher arm- I'd even posit he puts a tad more zip on the ball than even Andrew Luck.

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                        i guess wright may learn how to run the middle of the route tree sometime....he does burn.

                        blackmon is the next fitz? sigh....

                        its sad we cant even wait till players do anything before we know how careers will shake out.

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                          RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

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                          @poeticg said:

                          RG3 and Colt McCoy are the same. Colt is IMO better than RG3... why would you want to spend the number 4 overall pick of the Draft to draft a guy you already have on the team? In fact, it may even be a downgrade to what you already have... but seems as how this FO released Vickers and signed Marecic, I see how you'd come to the conclusion we take RG3 😉

                          I dont even think i can comment on this

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                            Blackmon is Dez Bryant without the mental baggage. RG3 will be Steve McNair.

                            The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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                              Blackmon is Dez Bryant without the mental baggage. RG3 will be Steve McNair.

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                              @unsympathetic said:

                              Blackmon is Dez Bryant without the mental baggage. RG3 will be Steve McNair.

                              I think the Bryant/Blackmon comparison is fair but RG3 to McNair? That remains to be seen. Personally I see Griffin as better than McNair but I'd still take it if that's all he amounts to.

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                                ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by ballpeen
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                                #4...Ryan Tannehill

                                #22..Mohammad Sanu

                                If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                  #4...Ryan Tannehill

                                  #22..Mohammad Sanu

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                                  Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                                  @ballpeen said:

                                  #4...Ryan Tannehill

                                  #22..Mohammad Sanu

                                  Dude,

                                  #4 Blackmon

                                  #22 Mohammad Sanu

                                  Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                                    BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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                                    #4 - RG3 please

                                    #22 - Kendal Wright WR - Baylor

                                    #22 is a tough call. We really need to shore up so many positions. We need to shore up our OL. I think we need that stud LB. RB might need looked at but I thought Chris Ogbonnaya made some great runs this year and showed potential. I like him a lot more than Hardesty at this point.

                                    One thing that is certain, you need a QB. You need a guy who is going to go out on the field with confidence and make the needed throws. Colt did not look like that at all this year. For someone with the name of "Colt" he was awefully gun shy. We need someone that knows he has the arm to make the throws that are needed to stretch the defense and to throw into tight coverage. Look our WR's aren't going to be open all the time, it's not going to happen regardless of how good a WR is. QB and WR's make each other great. And sometimes you just have to make that throw, and let the WR make a play. The greats have all done that.

                                    I would love to see Colt prove me wrong. He has a great head on his shoulders, and a great attitude, I'm just worried because he Digressed this year from last year. Shoot he even looked better in our preseason this year. Something changed and happend and he is going to have to figure that out.

                                    But as of right now we need someone with some swag, a little mojo. Colt didn't display that confidence this year that I want to see in a QB.

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                                      #4 - RG3 please

                                      #22 - Kendal Wright WR - Baylor

                                      #22 is a tough call. We really need to shore up so many positions. We need to shore up our OL. I think we need that stud LB. RB might need looked at but I thought Chris Ogbonnaya made some great runs this year and showed potential. I like him a lot more than Hardesty at this point.

                                      One thing that is certain, you need a QB. You need a guy who is going to go out on the field with confidence and make the needed throws. Colt did not look like that at all this year. For someone with the name of "Colt" he was awefully gun shy. We need someone that knows he has the arm to make the throws that are needed to stretch the defense and to throw into tight coverage. Look our WR's aren't going to be open all the time, it's not going to happen regardless of how good a WR is. QB and WR's make each other great. And sometimes you just have to make that throw, and let the WR make a play. The greats have all done that.

                                      I would love to see Colt prove me wrong. He has a great head on his shoulders, and a great attitude, I'm just worried because he Digressed this year from last year. Shoot he even looked better in our preseason this year. Something changed and happend and he is going to have to figure that out.

                                      But as of right now we need someone with some swag, a little mojo. Colt didn't display that confidence this year that I want to see in a QB.

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                                      Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                                      @brownskidd said:

                                      For someone with the name of "Colt" he was awefully gun shy.

                                      Coaching and play calling.

                                      Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                                        @brownskidd said:

                                        For someone with the name of "Colt" he was awefully gun shy.

                                        Coaching and play calling.

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                                        @kosar_for_president said:

                                        Coaching and play calling.

                                        Yeah but thats not gonna change with Shurmur

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                                          @brownskidd said:

                                          For someone with the name of "Colt" he was awefully gun shy.

                                          Coaching and play calling.

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                                          @kosar_for_president said:

                                          Coaching and play calling.

                                          Agreed to a point. Our play calling sucked, but sometimes you have to pull the trigger and let it fly.

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