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  • BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd

    KNR (and I know many of you don't put any weight in what they say) said that Shurmur still plans on making the calls. This almost seems pointless. So we bring a guy in to establish an offensive scheme, plays, flow, gameplan. Yet Shurmur is going to be calling those plays. That's like LEGO, designing a new playset. Lego gives me the playset with the finished product on the box, yet no detailed instructions on how to put it together using the pieces. So we have a OC, that designs all the plays, assigns player roles, and than on game day gives this to Shurmur to put together.

    Someone school on why this can work out. Is this how the Saints do it... I know there HC calls the plays. Someone edumacate me please.

    @brownskidd said:

    KNR (and I know many of you don't put any weight in what they say) said that Shurmur still plans on making the calls. This almost seems pointless. So we bring a guy in to establish an offensive scheme, plays, flow, gameplan. Yet Shurmur is going to be calling those plays. That's like LEGO, designing a new playset. Lego gives me the playset with the finished product on the box, yet no detailed instructions on how to put it together using the pieces. So we have a OC, that designs all the plays, assigns player roles, and than on game day gives this to Shurmur to put together.

    Someone school on why this can work out. Is this how the Saints do it... I know there HC calls the plays. Someone edumacate me please.

    Yes Shurmur said that he will still call the plays next season.

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~

  • I'll take Charlie Weiss.

    Or i'll take John Gruden and fire Pat today.

    In Cleveland failure is an artform.

  • The favorite right now is to promote from within:

    #1: Mark Whipple

    #2: Gil Haskell

    I wouldn't mind either of them.

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  • nickersN nickers

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    I would love to see them bring in someone from the Shanahan / Kubiak / Gibbs tree.

    Hell, bring in Alex Gibbs. Our O-Line is ideal for the zone blocking scheme they're not big overpowering blockers, but they're smart with good technique and can move.

    Joe Gibbs was not a WCO coach.

    @nickers said:

    Joe Gibbs was not a WCO coach.

    Nickers I'm not talking about Joe Gibbs. I am talking about Alex Gibbs, no relation.

    I would think that naming Alex Gibbs by full name in my post that you quoted would maybe tip you off to that.

    Alex Gibbs was offensive line coach/assistant head coach under Shanahan who ran a run first version of the west coast offense. Pretty much the same thing they're doing in Houston these days.

    Jon Gruden? Man give me a break. Gil Haskel is pushing 70 and has not coached in 4 years.

    I'd love to see them take a look at John Benton or Frank Pollack from the Houston staff.

    "I want to get the best guy I can. If he's outstanding at calling plays, hey, I want to win games." - Pat Shurmur

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  • TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound

    The favorite right now is to promote from within:

    #1: Mark Whipple

    #2: Gil Haskell

    I wouldn't mind either of them.

    @theclevelandsound said:

    The favorite right now is to promote from within:

    #1: Mark Whipple

    #2: Gil Haskell

    I wouldn't mind either of them.

    if your gonna hire Haskell then you might as well get Rutigliano out of retirement LOL

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • GipsG Gips

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    Prerequisites for the job includes Bob Lamonte as your agent.

    If shurmur wont give the playcalling duty to the new OC then it will be impossible to get anyone other than a newb whipping boy anyways..

    And unfortunately i suspect what we may ultimately end up with will match shurmur in lifelessness and will come fresh off the stall floor of the lamonte stable..

    @gips said:

    If shurmur wont give the playcalling duty to the new OC then it will be impossible to get anyone other than a newb whipping boy anyways..

    And unfortunately i suspect what we may ultimately end up with will match shurmur in lifelessness and will come fresh off the stall floor of the lamonte stable..

    I agree.

    I posted a thread already but I want Hue Jackson, but only if Shurmur relegated his play calling duties to him. I'm also fine with Mike Sherman.

  • i want Chudzinsky. Screw WCO.

  • Whoever the OC is... I want Bernie Kosar to be his assistant.🙂

  • Why not let Bernie come in as a quarterbacks coach or something to start? At least he loves our team and that's more than you can say for the rest of these dingleberries.

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  • I would hire the OC from LSU. With that marvelous showing against Alabama

    in the National Championship Game he wouldn't miss a beat taking over as

    OC for the Browns.

  • How does the role of the OC change when he is not calling the plays. What does he do, just draw up the plays? Not sure I like the idea. How is Shurmur calling the plays (especially after this year) going to help us).

  • shottenheimer hired as OC of rams. think he's decent. lost his jub cuz dirty sanchez regressed. how come everyone blames the OC when the players don't make plays?

  • Now that Green Bay is done I guess we shall see if we can get Clements...if not just bring in Jim Chaney from Tennessee if anyone knows what made Drew Brees tick it was old man Jim...hopefully, he sprinkles in a little spread and will be fine...this might give us a leg up on getting Bray as well next year.

  • We won't hire any experienced guy until after all the HC jobs are filled.

    In the end i don't expect a experienced guy to take the job. Too many negatives tagged to the job.

    I look for a new OC willing to take the job to build the resume. And I think that is what Shurmer wants. He wants a new guy so he can keep his thumb on the O.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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  • Peyton Manning. OC and QB. When he retires from QB he can take over OC full time.

    :neutral_face:
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    We won't hire any experienced guy until after all the HC jobs are filled.

    In the end i don't expect a experienced guy to take the job. Too many negatives tagged to the job.

    I look for a new OC willing to take the job to build the resume. And I think that is what Shurmer wants. He wants a new guy so he can keep his thumb on the O.

    @ballpeen said:

    We won't hire any experienced guy until after all the HC jobs are filled.

    In the end i don't expect a experienced guy to take the job. Too many negatives tagged to the job.

    I look for a new OC willing to take the job to build the resume. And I think that is what Shurmer wants. He wants a new guy so he can keep his thumb on the O.

    That is true, but the fact that no one (not even college coaches) is even coming for an interview is worrying me. By this time few teams have found the coach and coordinators for 2013 while many are interviewing. We are still not in the market.

  • I'll probably get smacked for this, but how about Marc Trestman? He's had a lot of experience and success since leaving the Browns.

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