Decision On Mccoy Will Determine Draft Picks
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2001 19 Hampton, CaseyCasey Hampton DT Texas [l]
2011 PHIL TAYLOR DT
2002 30 Simmons, KendallKendall Simmons G Auburn
2009 ALEX MACK C
2003 16 Polamalu, TroyTroy Polamalu DB USC [m]
2010 JOE HADEN CB
2004 11 Roethlisberger, BenBen Roethlisberger QB Miami (OH)
2012 ???????????????????????????
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I like your thinking htownbrown, but you have to remember that Pittsburgh already had virtually every other offensive position filled in: Plaxico Burress WR, Hines Ward WR, and a whole bunch of 1st and 2nd round offensive lineman all from previous drafts.
The similarities show that Cleveland is finally rebuilding the right way, but Roethlisberger was the final piece of their offensive puzzle. If the Browns were to try to pick out their franchise QB now, he would have very few other playmakers on offense to work with. In other words, he wouldn't have any success with the offense the way it is now..
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I'd like to see us trade down and select Tannehill. He's going to be a great NFL QB..
I just hope we don't go so far down we get snookered and someone else grab him
I do agree, Colt sucks. He may be our starter next season, but as long as we have that guy leading the team, we will never be better than 8-8 even if we have a team of all-stars.
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I have never been of the pollyanna nature, but we did get screwed this season by the lockout.
I don't care about an oc until the team can execute the plays.
And I certainly don't buy in to the idea that we should change the quarterback every damn season.
Had shittsburg drafted Tim Couch he probably be all pro.
Had the browns drafted big gay Ben he'd be working at Lowes in Fremont.
I say trade down build a nucleus from good middle of the first round and second round players.
Only then does the quarterback make a big big difference.
WSS
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
If he is, then the Browns will go 4 - 12 again. He is so slow to see the open reciever it is like watching Couch all over again. The guy is just not capable of firing up a team nor making big plays.
Perhaps the Browns will attempt winning the way teh 90s Steelers did.......... and then finally get a real QB.
I think McCoy blows but, we will see.
Being at the last game against the steelers, I saw several throws that that should have been made instead of the safe 4-5 yard out route that Colt missed multiple times. But let me say this, as everyone else knows, we do need to shore up or OL. If these playoffs say anything it is saying that we need to give our QB time. We also, need to stretch the field. How many plays have we seen this play off where the actual play called breaks down, yet the receivers are far enough out that they can actually come back to the QB and let both QB and WR make a play. For that to happen you have to give your QB time and you need to call the right plays and stretch the field.
But what we also saw was Rodgers being pressured. Defense still wins games.
Yes, we have a lot of holes... and frankly as much as I would like to draft RG3, who I believe would be an improvement, I want what our FO thinks we need. We need a Stud WR, LB, and a much improved OL. And an OC.
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Zombo said:
Everybody got screwed by the lockout.
Jim Harbaugh didn't meet his players until August, they were one game better than us last year, today they are practicing for the NFC Championship game.
Zombo
In other words, you are saying that it is not the choice of QB or any other position that is most important to a team's success, but the choice of HC.
And in last year's draft of HC's it seems the 49ers got Payton Manning while the Browns chose Ryan Leaf?
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I don't know much about the broncos , but the Bengals have had an established defense for years with continuity in the coaching staff and a stud running back.
The 9ers started the season with 11 top 10 draft picks, you know damn well that helps. What do the Browns have? 2? fuck, your lord and savior can't win like that.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Ghoolie to Earth, Ghoolie to Earth, Earth are you listening?
Colt McCoy is done. Good grief, didn't any of you watch this loser this year? He is worse than Charlie Frye and Tim Couch on their worst days.
You look at the guys playing in the playoffs, Colt is SOOOOOO very slow to release the ball it isn't even funny.
He may be a nice guy but he is a shit QB. Time to change the diapers and get rid of this lump of shit.
Tom you'll be happy to know Walter's Football agrees with you. It's just a question if we want to draft a qb this year or next.
And a big + 1 to everything Zombo said. I'm tired of teams going from the outhouse to the Penthouse in one season, while we continue to stink like an outhouse. Except for 2 years, the Browns have sucked since '99.
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Its the Process, man. Its all about The Process.
....or so Holmgrem and Shurmur would have you believe.
The title of this video is "Screw Process"
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49ers, new coach, no off-season ... Playoffs
Bengals, rookie quarterback ... Playoffs
Broncos, new coach, new quarterback, new system ... Playoffs
F'er
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Look at their offensive lines. They didn't ignore them.
We had dumbsheets with the Browns that thought they didn't
need to build an offensive line.
Niner's did. Bengals did. Squeelers and ratbirds do.
Broncos did.
Browns didn't for years and years since 99..
It's in the past now. Whatever the Browns do, FA and draft - I support what they did.
Savage was a dumbsheet. I hope he's sweeping floors in the skunk bldg of some zoo.
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build the lines on both sides of the ball. a line to protect the QB and a line to get to the QB.
want to see championship caliber teams? watch the championship games this weekend. then get back to me about what you saw.
defense wins championships.
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49ers, new coach, no off-season ... Playoffs
Bengals, rookie quarterback ... Playoffs
Broncos, new coach, new quarterback, new system ... Playoffs
F'er
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Look at their offensive lines. They didn't ignore them.
We had dumbsheets with the Browns that thought they didn't
need to build an offensive line.
Niner's did. Bengals did. Squeelers and ratbirds do.
Broncos did.
Browns didn't for years and years since 99..
It's in the past now. Whatever the Browns do, FA and draft - I support what they did.
Savage was a dumbsheet. I hope he's sweeping floors in the skunk bldg of some zoo.
49ers, new coach, no off-season ... Playoffs
Bengals, rookie quarterback ... Playoffs
Broncos, new coach, new quarterback, new system ... Playoffs
Savage was a dumbsheet. I hope he's sweeping floors in the skunk bldg of some zoo.
Sorry to disappoint ya- Savage is the radio announcer for Alabama football games.
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If the Browns want to be a contender, then they have to do, what they have to do to get Andrew Luck. You have 2 first round picks in 2011, which is more than any other team can offer Indy. The Polians wanted to draft Andrew Luck, which may be why they are out of a job (assuming Irsay is still in love with Peyton). Cutting Peyton will be costly, but keeping him w/Luck will be trouble.
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