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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    Tom Brady is, once again, in position to win a Super Bowl. If he and the Patriots do it, that would be 4 titles brought home by him. If he does he would join only 5 other players in the history of football to be the QB of at least 4 championship teams. The following is the class that he is attempting to join:

    Sid Luckman QBed title teams in 1940, 41, 43, and 1946

    Otto Graham QBed title teams in 1946, 47, 48, 49, 50, 54, 1955

    Bart Starr QBed title teams in 1961, 62, 65, 66, 1967

    Terry Bradshaw QBed title teams in 1974, 75, 78, 1979

    Joe Montana QBed title teams in 1981, 84, 88, 1989

    Others that came close with 3 title teams QB include:

    Troy Aikman

    John Unitas

    Bobby Layne

    Arnie Herber

    and of course Brady

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    • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      If the Patriots win the title then Bill Belichick will join an elite group of coaches that have won 4 or more titles that include:

      Guy Chamberlain

      Curly Lambeau

      George Halas

      Paul Brown

      Vince Lombardi

      Chuck Noll

      From what I am able to calculate, the only coaches to have won 3 titles are:

      Joe Gibbs

      Weeb Ewbank

      Bill Walsh

      and Belichick

      There are some "dynasties out there that were accomplished with 2 different coaches including the 90s Cowboys with Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer, the 70s/80s Raiders with John Madden and Tom Flores, the 50s Lions with Buddy Parker and George Wilson

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      • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        Needless to say, everyone mentioned in the above lists are in the HOF....except Brady and Belichick.

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          BrownsKiddB BrownsKidd wrote on last edited by
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          What does this tell us than. What volumes of information can we gleen from Brady and Belichick's offense?

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          • The GipperT The Gipper

            If the Patriots win the title then Bill Belichick will join an elite group of coaches that have won 4 or more titles that include:

            Guy Chamberlain

            Curly Lambeau

            George Halas

            Paul Brown

            Vince Lombardi

            Chuck Noll

            From what I am able to calculate, the only coaches to have won 3 titles are:

            Joe Gibbs

            Weeb Ewbank

            Bill Walsh

            and Belichick

            There are some "dynasties out there that were accomplished with 2 different coaches including the 90s Cowboys with Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer, the 70s/80s Raiders with John Madden and Tom Flores, the 50s Lions with Buddy Parker and George Wilson

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            1 more season1 1 more season wrote on last edited by
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            @the-gipper said:

            If the Patriots win the title then Bill Belichick will join an elite group of coaches that have won 4 or more titles that include:

            Guy Chamberlain

            Curly Lambeau

            George Halas

            Paul Brown

            Vince Lombardi

            Chuck Noll

            From what I am able to calculate, the only coaches to have won 3 titles are:

            Joe Gibbs

            Weeb Ewbank

            Bill Walsh

            and Belichick

            There are some "dynasties out there that were accomplished with 2 different coaches including the 90s Cowboys with Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer, the 70s/80s Raiders with John Madden and Tom Flores, the 50s Lions with Buddy Parker and George Wilson

            What I like about Gibbs is he did it with 3 different QB's. It shows he could put together a winner with different personnel which i think is a bit tougher than putting together a top team and then going a streak for 7-8 yrs.

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              @the-gipper said:

              If the Patriots win the title then Bill Belichick will join an elite group of coaches that have won 4 or more titles that include:

              Guy Chamberlain

              Curly Lambeau

              George Halas

              Paul Brown

              Vince Lombardi

              Chuck Noll

              From what I am able to calculate, the only coaches to have won 3 titles are:

              Joe Gibbs

              Weeb Ewbank

              Bill Walsh

              and Belichick

              There are some "dynasties out there that were accomplished with 2 different coaches including the 90s Cowboys with Jimmy Johnson and Barry Switzer, the 70s/80s Raiders with John Madden and Tom Flores, the 50s Lions with Buddy Parker and George Wilson

              What I like about Gibbs is he did it with 3 different QB's. It shows he could put together a winner with different personnel which i think is a bit tougher than putting together a top team and then going a streak for 7-8 yrs.

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @1-more-season said:

              What I like about Gibbs is he did it with 3 different QB's. It shows he could put together a winner with different personnel which i think is a bit tougher than putting together a top team and then going a streak for 7-8 yrs.

              Nearly every "dynasty" that is spoken of was accomplished with the same coach and same QB, going back to Sid Luckman and George Halas, OG and PB, Starr/Lombardi, Noll/Bradshaw.

              Walsh/Montana did win 3, then George Seifert came in and won one with Joe Cool. The 1994 Steve Young title is really not part of the dynasty.

              The 70s/80s Raider did win, as I say, with 2 different QBs and 2 different HCs, though Plunkett and Flores were together for two.

              Aikman won with both JJ and Barry Switzer.

              But Brady/Belichick fits that one QB on coach mold.

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