Mel Kiper Jrs First Rd Mock
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Also here is his 2011 Regrade of the Draft for the BROWNS
Post-draft grade: B+
(1) - 21 - Phil Taylor
(2) - 37 - Jabaal Sheard
(2) - 59 - Greg Little
(4) - 102 - Jordan Cameron
(4) - 124 - Owen Marecic
(5) - 137 - Buster Skrine
(5) - 150 - Jason Pinkston
(7) - 248 - Eric Hagg
Summary: Forgive the superlatives, but this draft could be a quiet monster in terms of getting value up and down the board. It's a fair critique to wonder about the value of a rookie class on a top team versus the time rookies can see for a noncontender such as Cleveland. And the Browns still need to get something done on offense if they want to compete, particularly at quarterback. But you at least can say the strength of this team is on defense, and the first two picks were a big part of that. No. 21 overall pick Phil Taylor started all 16 games and proved to be a great fit in this scheme. Jabaal Sheard looks like a future star and piled up 8.5 sacks along with forcing five fumbles. Greg Little needs to become more consistent, but, after missing a year of football, he showed hints of future stardom -- he had seven more catches than Julio Jones. Buster Skrine looks really good in what was already a good secondary, and Jason Pinkston gave the Browns 16 starts after being taken at No. 150. Owen Marecic and Jordan Cameron have potential. The offense couldn't do enough to make this team competitive, but it can't really take the shine off this class for me. Put it this way: If the Browns make the playoffs next season, it won't be because they had to replace any of these picks.
New grade: A-
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yeah here's his first mock from last year. tell me how many he got right? HA!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/579050-mel-kipers-2011-nfl-mock-draft-a-pick-by-pick-critique
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I believe a lot of backroom mock drafters who barely break a hundred bucks a month from the web traffic they get on their site than the two dumb asses for ESPN who get payed a six figure salary to feed us a load a bullshit.
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yeah here's his first mock from last year. tell me how many he got right? HA!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/579050-mel-kipers-2011-nfl-mock-draft-a-pick-by-pick-critique
yeah here's his first mock from last year. tell me how many he got right? HA!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/579050-mel-kipers-2011-nfl-mock-draft-a-pick-by-pick-critique
Why don't you tell us how many he got right.
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yeah here's his first mock from last year. tell me how many he got right? HA!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/579050-mel-kipers-2011-nfl-mock-draft-a-pick-by-pick-critique
Why don't you tell us how many he got right.
Why don't you tell us how many he got right.
I just checked. He got 3 out of 32 right.
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Why don't you tell us how many he got right.
I just checked. He got 3 out of 32 right.
I just checked. He got 3 out of 32 right.
That is probably no worse than anyone else who does a mock draft would do.
I will say this: last year he had the Browns taking AJ Green. The Browns WOULD have taken AJ Green if he were there. But the Bengals snatched Green first. It is the whole butterfly effect. One move throws off the entire rest of the draft from the perspective of someone doing a mock.
Think what the Browns situation would have been if AJ Green were there. They take him, which means they don't trade down. No Phil Taylor, no Greg Little....it is quite possible that not a single player that they got would have been taken by them.
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I just checked. He got 3 out of 32 right.
That is probably no worse than anyone else who does a mock draft would do.
I will say this: last year he had the Browns taking AJ Green. The Browns WOULD have taken AJ Green if he were there. But the Bengals snatched Green first. It is the whole butterfly effect. One move throws off the entire rest of the draft from the perspective of someone doing a mock.
Think what the Browns situation would have been if AJ Green were there. They take him, which means they don't trade down. No Phil Taylor, no Greg Little....it is quite possible that not a single player that they got would have been taken by them.
That is probably no worse than anyone else who does a mock draft would do.
I will say this: last year he had the Browns taking AJ Green. The Browns WOULD have taken AJ Green if he were there. But the Bengals snatched Green first. It is the whole butterfly effect. One move throws off the entire rest of the draft from the perspective of someone doing a mock.
Think what the Browns situation would have been if AJ Green were there. They take him, which means they don't trade down. No Phil Taylor, no Greg Little....it is quite possible that not a single player that they got would have been taken by them.
Walterfootball got about 8 right last year including the first 5 picks, technically the 6th pick too cause he had us taking Jones and we traded the pick to Atlanta and they took him there.
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yeah here's his first mock from last year. tell me how many he got right? HA!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/579050-mel-kipers-2011-nfl-mock-draft-a-pick-by-pick-critique
Why don't you tell us how many he got right.
Why don't you tell us how many he got right.
the reason i threw up the link was i wanted people to look at themselves and read all the gibberish accompanied with each pick. the amount of time he spent writing up this mock and then to get 3 out of 32.
hey i enjoy everything football. i enjoy reading mocks and commenting on them BUT just because a couple of guys make a mock with us taking RGlll doesn't mean it's set in stone.
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Why don't you tell us how many he got right.
the reason i threw up the link was i wanted people to look at themselves and read all the gibberish accompanied with each pick. the amount of time he spent writing up this mock and then to get 3 out of 32.
hey i enjoy everything football. i enjoy reading mocks and commenting on them BUT just because a couple of guys make a mock with us taking RGlll doesn't mean it's set in stone.
the reason i threw up the link was i wanted people to look at themselves and read all the gibberish accompanied with each pick. the amount of time he spent writing up this mock and then to get 3 out of 32.
hey i enjoy everything football. i enjoy reading mocks and commenting on them BUT just because a couple of guys make a mock with us taking RGlll doesn't mean it's set in stone.
I agree.....who foresees what happens in a draft. Who could have predicted that the Falcons would have moved up so far last year.
Who can foresee if someone will jump to get RGIII? Actually, a lot of people see that happening...especially the Redskins or the Dolphins.
The Browns, however, have no business giving up draft picks to take what I think is a question mark. If he is there with our pick and they want him, OK. But with all our needs, to give up a pick to move up? NYET. If RGIII is gone, go for Blackmon. If both Blackmon and RGIII are gone, go for Claiborne....or go for a trade down to give us more high picks. When you have needs at: QB, WR, DE, RT, RG OLB1, OLB2, FS, CB, RB maybe you go get more picks, not fewer.
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Mel Kiper sux dix.
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I just checked. He got 3 out of 32 right.
That is probably no worse than anyone else who does a mock draft would do.
I will say this: last year he had the Browns taking AJ Green. The Browns WOULD have taken AJ Green if he were there. But the Bengals snatched Green first. It is the whole butterfly effect. One move throws off the entire rest of the draft from the perspective of someone doing a mock.
Think what the Browns situation would have been if AJ Green were there. They take him, which means they don't trade down. No Phil Taylor, no Greg Little....it is quite possible that not a single player that they got would have been taken by them.
That is probably no worse than anyone else who does a mock draft would do.
I will say this: last year he had the Browns taking AJ Green. The Browns WOULD have taken AJ Green if he were there. But the Bengals snatched Green first. It is the whole butterfly effect. One move throws off the entire rest of the draft from the perspective of someone doing a mock.
Think what the Browns situation would have been if AJ Green were there. They take him, which means they don't trade down. No Phil Taylor, no Greg Little....it is quite possible that not a single player that they got would have been taken by them.
Actually my final mock draft last year got several more correct than Kiper.
Just like almost all mocks out there have you guys taking RGIII, im wondering if you think Cleveland absolutely HAS to trade up with St. Louis to get him? At this point, and with the whole Rookie Wage Scale, im saying that almost HAVE to. I think if St. Louis is on the clock and no one trades with them, there will be guys on the phone with Minnesota. I think Cleveland has to trade up or theyll lose out on RGIII.
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Zombo said:
Lions fan, you are a homo.
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Thanks, I appreciate the cut down. Didnt know what I did wrong, but whatever.
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All else fails Richardson is there and we take him. He's NFL ready and runs with purpose kinda like Peterson. He'd fill a hole and would be the best available.
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yeah here's his first mock from last year. tell me how many he got right? HA!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/579050-mel-kipers-2011-nfl-mock-draft-a-pick-by-pick-critique
yeah here's his first mock from last year. tell me how many he got right? HA!
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/579050-mel-kipers-2011-nfl-mock-draft-a-pick-by-pick-critique
Um this link has a Jan 20, 2011 date on it so I hardly doubt that this was Mels final mock before the draft. The freaking complete draft order wasn't even set etc. Its fair to criticize Kiper but at least do so with his final mock.
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Zombo said:
You had us trading up.
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I dont understand?
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I just checked. He got 3 out of 32 right.
That is probably no worse than anyone else who does a mock draft would do.
I will say this: last year he had the Browns taking AJ Green. The Browns WOULD have taken AJ Green if he were there. But the Bengals snatched Green first. It is the whole butterfly effect. One move throws off the entire rest of the draft from the perspective of someone doing a mock.
Think what the Browns situation would have been if AJ Green were there. They take him, which means they don't trade down. No Phil Taylor, no Greg Little....it is quite possible that not a single player that they got would have been taken by them.
That is probably no worse than anyone else who does a mock draft would do.
I will say this: last year he had the Browns taking AJ Green. The Browns WOULD have taken AJ Green if he were there. But the Bengals snatched Green first. It is the whole butterfly effect. One move throws off the entire rest of the draft from the perspective of someone doing a mock.
Think what the Browns situation would have been if AJ Green were there. They take him, which means they don't trade down. No Phil Taylor, no Greg Little....it is quite possible that not a single player that they got would have been taken by them.
Gips, it's not just one year- compared to some other mock guys Kiper has consistently sucked in his predictions.
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