Cleveland Curse Strikes San Francisco
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So SF's WR who fumbled the ball and let the ball hit his knee was because of the "Cleveland Curse"? What if Ted Ginn Jr was in the game (who happened to be replaced by Williams) and didn't fumble or touch the ball he shouldn't have? Would the "Cleveland Curse" still have happened or would it have been twice as bad cause Ginn is from Cleveland? LMFAO....Come one!
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Good point. Ginn, their best returner, from Cleveland, was out for the game. Cleveland Curse in action.
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Certainly. No curse. Cleveland has 13 titles. SF only 5. Every town should want to be cursed with 13 championships....only Cleveland and Green Bay have that many.
I suspect they are only saying that because both teams that lost yesterday did it in fairly spectacular fashion with having certain players and the team blow things the way the Browns did with the Fumble/Drive/Red Right 88. etc.
Oh right. Where do they keep our thirteen trophies?
Oh right. Where do they keep our thirteen trophies?
I don't know. Perhaps in the stadium, perhaps in Berea, perhaps nowhere.
Do the trinkets matter?
The titles are there in history. Northeast Ohio has won 13 titles.
Is this just news to you? It is a fact that is only 90 years in the making. (But, if you must know, the years that titles were won by NE Ohio teams were 1920, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1954, 1955, 1964).
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SF special teams are head and heels above the browns' unit. i'd take seely back in half a heartbeat.
san fran has aq couple of divas on that team that don't know when to shut it. vernon davis great TE but what a self-centered cunt. after winning the game the week before it was all about him in his interviews. then he catches a td pass sunday and jumps on the camera pedestal. the kick returner denied ever having the ball touch his knees when the replays being broadcast on the jumbotron for everyone to see that it did. fuck 'em both. glad they lost. harbaugh didn't have the courtesy to congratulate an old coach and then dodged the postgame interview by fox. that team is going to implode on themselves. mark my word.
a cleveland curse though? no.
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special teams the cleveland curse?
yeah, that's all that has held your team back for the past 20yrs...............special teams.
lol
with all i've heard about Big Ben being a rapist and i go to a online sex offender registry and look up cleveland and Pittsburgh and what do i find? cleveland has a CRAP load more sex offenders (and expecially child molesters) than Pittsburgh.......over 4X as many over all. 2055 of them to Pittsburgh's 421. www.familywatchdog.us better never hear one of you date raping, can't get a woman with my tiny peep unless i hold her down, child molesting hypocrits say anything else about Ben. -
special teams the cleveland curse?
yeah, that's all that has held your team back for the past 20yrs...............special teams.
lol
special teams the cleveland curse?
yeah, that's all that has held your team back for the past 20yrs...............special teams.
lol
No, with us it is ownership.
What has held you back for the past 20 years?
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Oh right. Where do they keep our thirteen trophies?
I don't know. Perhaps in the stadium, perhaps in Berea, perhaps nowhere.
Do the trinkets matter?
The titles are there in history. Northeast Ohio has won 13 titles.
Is this just news to you? It is a fact that is only 90 years in the making. (But, if you must know, the years that titles were won by NE Ohio teams were 1920, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1954, 1955, 1964).
I don't know. Perhaps in the stadium, perhaps in Berea, perhaps nowhere.
Do the trinkets matter?
The titles are there in history. Northeast Ohio has won 13 titles.
Is this just news to you? It is a fact that is only 90 years in the making. (But, if you must know, the years that titles were won by NE Ohio teams were 1920, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1954, 1955, 1964).
Might as well be 1764 for all the relevance it has now
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I don't know. Perhaps in the stadium, perhaps in Berea, perhaps nowhere.
Do the trinkets matter?
The titles are there in history. Northeast Ohio has won 13 titles.
Is this just news to you? It is a fact that is only 90 years in the making. (But, if you must know, the years that titles were won by NE Ohio teams were 1920, 1922, 1923, 1924, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1954, 1955, 1964).
Might as well be 1764 for all the relevance it has now
Might as well be 1764 for all the relevance it has now
What is your point? Perhaps nothing prior to the last nanosecond of your life span has any relevence now. Why would a thread called "Cleveland Curse strikes San Fran" have any relevency in any fashion unless it is viewed with an eye toward history.
In all reality, the ONLY NFL title that has any relevency is this next one. Otherwise, they are ALL history, be it the one from 1920 or the one from 2010. They are all just another brick in the wall. Learn something about that wall, lest it come toppling down on your head.
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cysko kid was conceived out of a test tube and is only 12 yrs. old. he was cloned from this guy/gal:
i'm surprised they allow internet access in the rubber rooms of bellevue.
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How very poetic, however in 2012 tom bradys superbowls have 1000 times the relevance of Otto grahams championships."Learn something about that wall lest it come toppling down on your head" give me a fucking break were not discussing the ramifications of the civil war here, you're trying to imply championships, some of them not even in the NFL, won in a time when there was hardly integration in the NFL and the few who did play had to drink out of a seperate fountain, are still as relevant as the super bowl era. That is ludicrous.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
What does integration have to do with anything? Cleveland wasn't a team full of people from the African American culture that wasn't allowed to play against other teams. They played within the same parameters as every other team NFL of AFL from that era, the same way teams are supposed to play within the same parameters in the NFL today. Your point about integration is moot.
History is history, you can't try to say one point in the past is any more relevant than another point in the past.
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the championships are pre super bowl era, and some weren't even in the NFL. They're all but irrelevant now. All I'm saying is they're not comparable to modern day super bowl championships
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What does integration have to do with anything? Cleveland wasn't a team full of people from the African American culture that wasn't allowed to play against other teams. They played within the same parameters as every other team NFL of AFL from that era, the same way teams are supposed to play within the same parameters in the NFL today. Your point about integration is moot.
History is history, you can't try to say one point in the past is any more relevant than another point in the past.
What does integration have to do with anything? Cleveland wasn't a team full of people from the African American culture that wasn't allowed to play against other teams. They played within the same parameters as every other team NFL of AFL from that era, the same way teams are supposed to play within the same parameters in the NFL today. Your point about integration is moot.
History is history, you can't try to say one point in the past is any more relevant than another point in the past.
I'm not saying clevelands championships are irrelevant. I'm saying all of them are.
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No matter what you guys come up with to validate this point, the fact is Cleveland has zero championships that anyone not on the browns board cares about.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
No matter what you guys come up with to validate this point, the fact is Cleveland has zero championships that anyone not on the browns board cares about.
No matter what you guys come up with to validate this point, the fact is Cleveland has zero championships that anyone not on the browns board cares about.
Well I happen to care...so...go hug a pair of nuts LOL
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You're on the browns board.
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Oh Ho! You hurt my feelings, choco. Nice burn.
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How very poetic, however in 2012 tom bradys superbowls have 1000 times the relevance of Otto grahams championships."Learn something about that wall lest it come toppling down on your head" give me a fucking break were not discussing the ramifications of the civil war here, you're trying to imply championships, some of them not even in the NFL, won in a time when there was hardly integration in the NFL and the few who did play had to drink out of a seperate fountain, are still as relevant as the super bowl era. That is ludicrous.
How very poetic, however in 2012 tom bradys superbowls have 1000 times the relevance of Otto grahams championships."Learn something about that wall lest it come toppling down on your head" give me a fucking break were not discussing the ramifications of the civil war here, you're trying to imply championships, some of them not even in the NFL, won in a time when there was hardly integration in the NFL and the few who did play had to drink out of a seperate fountain, are still as relevant as the super bowl era. That is ludicrous.
By your way of thinking the Civil War shouldn't even be counted as a war...after all, they only used muskets and cannons. They didn't have machine guns and atom bombs and killer drones.
By your way of thinking you would say that "Abraham Lincoln doesn't count as being a US President because he was elected in 1860, before they had TV."
The fact is, each championship in history has the exact same relevence....they are all history.
With such unadulterated ignorance on display are you sure you are not a Steeler fan? I have only ever heard such stupidity out of the mouths of Steeler fans.
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What does integration have to do with anything? Cleveland wasn't a team full of people from the African American culture that wasn't allowed to play against other teams. They played within the same parameters as every other team NFL of AFL from that era, the same way teams are supposed to play within the same parameters in the NFL today. Your point about integration is moot.
History is history, you can't try to say one point in the past is any more relevant than another point in the past.
What does integration have to do with anything? Cleveland wasn't a team full of people from the African American culture that wasn't allowed to play against other teams. They played within the same parameters as every other team NFL of AFL from that era, the same way teams are supposed to play within the same parameters in the NFL today. Your point about integration is moot.
History is history, you can't try to say one point in the past is any more relevant than another point in the past.
Actually, that is even wrong. The Browns in the 40s and 50s had Black players on the team where the NFL teams did not. Paul Brown could care less about color. When NFL teams would not take Marion Motley, Paul Browns had him running over people.
And not only that, the star of the 1920 Akron Pros was Fritz Pollard...a black man. And he wasn't the only African American on the team. In fact, he later became a coach for them.
You really DO need a history lesson.
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