Jackson (Possibly) Getting The Tag.........
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I think it means Dawson is gone, that's the only thing it's telling me.
It's about time. I think he kicked like 6 touchbacks all year. For sure had the worst touchback percentage in the NFL. I love the guy's clutch kicking but he hurts the team too much on kickoff.
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I think this is smart. Feel him out another year and make sure there isn't anymore injuries building up before a new deal. But, that's alot more money for one year. What's everyones thoughts??
Jackson is not worth franchise money. He's one of the top 5 linebackers in the NFL, you kidding me?
Jackson is not worth franchise money. He's one of the top 5 linebackers in the NFL, you kidding me?
This was the only season in the past three he didn't have an injury. Make sure he isn't gonna get hurt again and then talk big money. He is worth alot more, but why pay a big contract if you can tag him for one year and make sure he isn't a one season fluke.
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For everyone saying don't do it, who takes his place?
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It'll cost 8.8 million to tag him. DQ was second in the NFL in total tackles, first in solo tackles and 3.5 sacks. I don't see why Browns fans are concerned at all with how much we pay anyone. It's not like we weren't 20 Million under the cap last season. Oh wait, then we might not be able to sign that big free agent they never intended to sign and probably had close to zero interest to sign with us anyhow.
It's not our money so fuck it.
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I think this is smart. Feel him out another year and make sure there isn't anymore injuries building up before a new deal. But, that's alot more money for one year. What's everyones thoughts??
Jackson is not worth franchise money. He's one of the top 5 linebackers in the NFL, you kidding me?
Jackson is not worth franchise money. He's one of the top 5 linebackers in the NFL, you kidding me?
Hoorta, have taken a look at his stats this year?
Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12 -
I would take jackson at 5 years 30 million not a penny more...we need that space! Our QB probably makes the least of any starting QB in the league(would bet he is the most cost effective QB out there as well) our RB 5th round money, lets say we actually do get a better QB or RB in the next 2 years...they are going to want a hell of a lot more than Colts salary(he works for peanuts)...if we get RG3 probably gonna cost us at leat $5 million a year... 10x what we are paying Colt(not worth it, but it's not up to me)...now you want us to pay Jackson more than Joe Thomas(some of you kids are smoking some crap)The more I look at it the more I actually want to sign Colt up for a 10 year contract at 2.5 million a season...That would save us a ton of money everywhere else. Senneca probably makes double or triple what Colt makes is he 3x better than Colt(some will say at least 5x) This franchise will start spending more frugally then they have had in past year. Jackson is gone unless he signs for $5.5 million or less end of argument.
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Hoorta, have taken a look at his stats this year?
How many tackles for loss, how many sacks? He's got no excuse with Taylor and Rubin playing in front of him. I'm not impressed with total tackles, and he didn't make the Pro Bowl either.
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Hoorta, have taken a look at his stats this year?
How many tackles for loss, how many sacks? He's got no excuse with Taylor and Rubin playing in front of him. I'm not impressed with total tackles, and he didn't make the Pro Bowl either.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
And jsut when you think it can't get dumber, the team is considering a franchise tag on a dime-a-dozen LB who does nothing but rush the passer from the outside. Good grief, offer him a fair price and then kick his ass out the door if he isn't happy with it.
Jackson doesn't play outside or rush the passer from the outside. He played MLB.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
And jsut when you think it can't get dumber, the team is considering a franchise tag on a dime-a-dozen LB who does nothing but rush the passer from the outside. Good grief, offer him a fair price and then kick his ass out the door if he isn't happy with it.
Jackson doesn't play outside or rush the passer from the outside. He played MLB.
Jackson doesn't play outside or rush the passer from the outside. He played MLB.
no worries.. girley doesn't exactly care about details, or facts. they get in the way of his opinions.
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Hoorta, have taken a look at his stats this year?
How many tackles for loss, how many sacks? He's got no excuse with Taylor and Rubin playing in front of him. I'm not impressed with total tackles, and he didn't make the Pro Bowl either.
How many tackles for loss, how many sacks? He's got no excuse with Taylor and Rubin playing in front of him. I'm not impressed with total tackles, and he didn't make the Pro Bowl either.
The Pro bowl voting is a joke so you really can't use that against him. And not all MLBs get a lot of sacks. It depends on the playcalling. Jackson was in coverage a lot too. His biggest negative is stopping the run, but if our OLBs could actually seal the edge, Jackson wouldn't have to overplay his position. Jackson isn't perfect, but he is the best LB the Browns have so I would keep him - but only for the right price. Either franchise tag him or sign him to a long term deal without giving too much guaranteed money.
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Other than his injury which concerned me, he erased any doubt i had this year, based on his body of work in Cleveland i'd agree i'd give em a 5 year deal.
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As someone mentioned he led MLB with TFL, had 3.5 sacks from the MLB spot which is good, was decent in coverage, and led all MLB in fumble recoveries. His injury concerns are still legit, so I would agree with a franchise tag or multi year deal that was based more on incentives than guaranteed money.
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Brandon jackson?! Why the fuck would they tag him?
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How many tackles for loss, how many sacks? He's got no excuse with Taylor and Rubin playing in front of him. I'm not impressed with total tackles, and he didn't make the Pro Bowl either.
The Pro bowl voting is a joke so you really can't use that against him. And not all MLBs get a lot of sacks. It depends on the playcalling. Jackson was in coverage a lot too. His biggest negative is stopping the run, but if our OLBs could actually seal the edge, Jackson wouldn't have to overplay his position. Jackson isn't perfect, but he is the best LB the Browns have so I would keep him - but only for the right price. Either franchise tag him or sign him to a long term deal without giving too much guaranteed money.
The Pro bowl voting is a joke so you really can't use that against him. And not all MLBs get a lot of sacks. It depends on the playcalling. Jackson was in coverage a lot too. His biggest negative is stopping the run, but if our OLBs could actually seal the edge, Jackson wouldn't have to overplay his position. Jackson isn't perfect, but he is the best LB the Browns have so I would keep him - but only for the right price. Either franchise tag him or sign him to a long term deal without giving too much guaranteed money.
I think it's been so long since the Browns had a super stud linebacker, guys have forgotten what one looks like. To me, Jackson doesn't pass the "Beauty Contest" of looking like one of the top 5 middle linebackers in the NFL- stats aside, and I sure as hell wouldn't pay him like one. -
Sure Jackson is undersized and not super fast but he's got a pretty good nose for the ball and a bird in the hand is worth more than nothing in the bush at this point.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer -
Oh and he was the first alternate for the pro bowl this year.
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Sure Jackson is undersized and not super fast but he's got a pretty good nose for the ball and a bird in the hand is worth more than nothing in the bush at this point.
Sure Jackson is undersized and not super fast but he's got a pretty good nose for the ball and a bird in the hand is worth more than nothing in the bush at this point.
Then make him a non-exclusive franchise tag player. We get draft picks if he signs elsewhere. And I believe the tag price will be about $9.6 million. That's crazy money to pay a guy like Jackson. MHO is that's the kind of money you pay to a Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher in their primes.
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The Pro bowl voting is a joke so you really can't use that against him. And not all MLBs get a lot of sacks. It depends on the playcalling. Jackson was in coverage a lot too. His biggest negative is stopping the run, but if our OLBs could actually seal the edge, Jackson wouldn't have to overplay his position. Jackson isn't perfect, but he is the best LB the Browns have so I would keep him - but only for the right price. Either franchise tag him or sign him to a long term deal without giving too much guaranteed money.
I think it's been so long since the Browns had a super stud linebacker, guys have forgotten what one looks like. To me, Jackson doesn't pass the "Beauty Contest" of looking like one of the top 5 middle linebackers in the NFL- stats aside, and I sure as hell wouldn't pay him like one. I think it's been so long since the Browns had a super stud linebacker, guys have forgotten what one looks like. To me, Jackson doesn't pass the "Beauty Contest" of looking like one of the top 5 middle linebackers in the NFL- stats aside, and I sure as hell wouldn't pay him like one.Agreed.
BTW, he wouldn't even start for any of the teams in our conference. (unfortunately, that's not a joke)
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