Jackson (Possibly) Getting The Tag.........
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
And jsut when you think it can't get dumber, the team is considering a franchise tag on a dime-a-dozen LB who does nothing but rush the passer from the outside. Good grief, offer him a fair price and then kick his ass out the door if he isn't happy with it.
Jackson doesn't play outside or rush the passer from the outside. He played MLB.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
And jsut when you think it can't get dumber, the team is considering a franchise tag on a dime-a-dozen LB who does nothing but rush the passer from the outside. Good grief, offer him a fair price and then kick his ass out the door if he isn't happy with it.
Jackson doesn't play outside or rush the passer from the outside. He played MLB.
Jackson doesn't play outside or rush the passer from the outside. He played MLB.
no worries.. girley doesn't exactly care about details, or facts. they get in the way of his opinions.
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Hoorta, have taken a look at his stats this year?
How many tackles for loss, how many sacks? He's got no excuse with Taylor and Rubin playing in front of him. I'm not impressed with total tackles, and he didn't make the Pro Bowl either.
How many tackles for loss, how many sacks? He's got no excuse with Taylor and Rubin playing in front of him. I'm not impressed with total tackles, and he didn't make the Pro Bowl either.
The Pro bowl voting is a joke so you really can't use that against him. And not all MLBs get a lot of sacks. It depends on the playcalling. Jackson was in coverage a lot too. His biggest negative is stopping the run, but if our OLBs could actually seal the edge, Jackson wouldn't have to overplay his position. Jackson isn't perfect, but he is the best LB the Browns have so I would keep him - but only for the right price. Either franchise tag him or sign him to a long term deal without giving too much guaranteed money.
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Other than his injury which concerned me, he erased any doubt i had this year, based on his body of work in Cleveland i'd agree i'd give em a 5 year deal.
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As someone mentioned he led MLB with TFL, had 3.5 sacks from the MLB spot which is good, was decent in coverage, and led all MLB in fumble recoveries. His injury concerns are still legit, so I would agree with a franchise tag or multi year deal that was based more on incentives than guaranteed money.
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Brandon jackson?! Why the fuck would they tag him?
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How many tackles for loss, how many sacks? He's got no excuse with Taylor and Rubin playing in front of him. I'm not impressed with total tackles, and he didn't make the Pro Bowl either.
The Pro bowl voting is a joke so you really can't use that against him. And not all MLBs get a lot of sacks. It depends on the playcalling. Jackson was in coverage a lot too. His biggest negative is stopping the run, but if our OLBs could actually seal the edge, Jackson wouldn't have to overplay his position. Jackson isn't perfect, but he is the best LB the Browns have so I would keep him - but only for the right price. Either franchise tag him or sign him to a long term deal without giving too much guaranteed money.
The Pro bowl voting is a joke so you really can't use that against him. And not all MLBs get a lot of sacks. It depends on the playcalling. Jackson was in coverage a lot too. His biggest negative is stopping the run, but if our OLBs could actually seal the edge, Jackson wouldn't have to overplay his position. Jackson isn't perfect, but he is the best LB the Browns have so I would keep him - but only for the right price. Either franchise tag him or sign him to a long term deal without giving too much guaranteed money.
I think it's been so long since the Browns had a super stud linebacker, guys have forgotten what one looks like. To me, Jackson doesn't pass the "Beauty Contest" of looking like one of the top 5 middle linebackers in the NFL- stats aside, and I sure as hell wouldn't pay him like one. -
Sure Jackson is undersized and not super fast but he's got a pretty good nose for the ball and a bird in the hand is worth more than nothing in the bush at this point.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer -
Oh and he was the first alternate for the pro bowl this year.
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Sure Jackson is undersized and not super fast but he's got a pretty good nose for the ball and a bird in the hand is worth more than nothing in the bush at this point.
Sure Jackson is undersized and not super fast but he's got a pretty good nose for the ball and a bird in the hand is worth more than nothing in the bush at this point.
Then make him a non-exclusive franchise tag player. We get draft picks if he signs elsewhere. And I believe the tag price will be about $9.6 million. That's crazy money to pay a guy like Jackson. MHO is that's the kind of money you pay to a Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher in their primes.
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The Pro bowl voting is a joke so you really can't use that against him. And not all MLBs get a lot of sacks. It depends on the playcalling. Jackson was in coverage a lot too. His biggest negative is stopping the run, but if our OLBs could actually seal the edge, Jackson wouldn't have to overplay his position. Jackson isn't perfect, but he is the best LB the Browns have so I would keep him - but only for the right price. Either franchise tag him or sign him to a long term deal without giving too much guaranteed money.
I think it's been so long since the Browns had a super stud linebacker, guys have forgotten what one looks like. To me, Jackson doesn't pass the "Beauty Contest" of looking like one of the top 5 middle linebackers in the NFL- stats aside, and I sure as hell wouldn't pay him like one. I think it's been so long since the Browns had a super stud linebacker, guys have forgotten what one looks like. To me, Jackson doesn't pass the "Beauty Contest" of looking like one of the top 5 middle linebackers in the NFL- stats aside, and I sure as hell wouldn't pay him like one.Agreed.
BTW, he wouldn't even start for any of the teams in our conference. (unfortunately, that's not a joke)
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I think it's been so long since the Browns had a super stud linebacker, guys have forgotten what one looks like. To me, Jackson doesn't pass the "Beauty Contest" of looking like one of the top 5 middle linebackers in the NFL- stats aside, and I sure as hell wouldn't pay him like one.
Agreed.
BTW, he wouldn't even start for any of the teams in our conference. (unfortunately, that's not a joke)
Agreed.
BTW, he wouldn't even start for any of the teams in our conference. (unfortunately, that's not a joke)
I think Jackson would easily start for PIT as the WILB (they'd move Timmon to the strong side and replace the aging and declining Farrior). He'd easily start over McClain in BATL (thought considering the youth of McClain it's hard to say, since they'd likely want to develop McClain). No question he'd start over Rey Rey in Cincy. That guy is a highlight reel of missed tackles and terrible coverage skills. Cincy is probably the best example of where he'd start since Jackson was always a bit mis-casted in a 3-4. Jackson would not only be an upgrade over Rey Rey, he'd easily start over either of Cincy's OLBs.
The whole X guy wouldn't start for any team is always a bit of a silly discussion point. We have zero idea what player would start for some other team, for the most part.
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