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  • John, if the median wage in America is $26,363, that's half of the country that makes that or less. That's a large share of the working public.

    So if you don't want to increase the tax burden on these people (since they don't make very much) who else should have their taxes increased to pay for all the government spending? Anyone? Are there any revenue increases to be had here? What would you do?

  • >>So if you don't want to increase the tax burden on these people (since they don't make very much) who else should have their taxes increased to pay for all the government spending? Anyone? Are there any revenue increases to be had here? What would you do?>>

    I would cut with a very jagged knife, Heck. What else is there to do?

    Oh yea - cut earmarks.................like 1/12th of 1 % of the Federal Budget.

    I can't stop laughing.

    "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."

  • You keep suggesting that I proposed cutting earmarks as a solution. Except that I didn't.

  • Now that John has you backtracking, I have to laugh.

    You didn't inhale, correct?

  • "I think we should go with plan A, because this this and this"

    "But plan B is horrible and has these flaws"

    "Right but I said A"

    "How dare you keep talking about B, such a horrible plan"

    "No, B is wrong for these reasons and I don't want to address it again"

    "AH HA! You're backtracking. Why are you talking about B? I knew I was right"

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Welcome to The Browns Board, Woody.

  • I think he enjoys not being surrounded by idiots

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    I think he enjoys not being surrounded by idiots

    @mld-woody said:

    I think he enjoys not being surrounded by idiots

    Actually woody is just smart enough to know that all he need do is to insult cal and kiss Hecks butt for dog treats.

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
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  • Insulting Cal does have a way of making one feel like an asshole. But in our defense, what else are you supposed to do with him, reason?

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  • Heck - you don't try to reason with me, because you know you'd fail to

    win me over as a dem voter convert. it's what you do in real life, I think.

    I think you get paid to figure out emotional arguments that are affective in

    influencing the middle of the road voters.

    I was in the military, I've said many times that I know there is a lot of waste.

    There is more waste in our welfare and other entitlements systems.

    But with you libs, the only waste in in the military, that you all don't respect a whit.

    Meanwhile, as to John's point about why an Air Force...

    Basically, the Air Force must exist because of SAC. Strategic Air Command. That's my opinion.

    The other services can have their own transports and fighters...

    but it doesn't seem to me, to be a place in any of the other services for the strategic bombers and missiles.

    Although, that function IS tied in to the attack class nuclear warhead submarines in the Navy. Not a bad question, John.

    But like with most things, to much centralized is too much bureaucratic inefficiency.

    Combining the functionality of all the different services would be an unmanageable burden, so to what degree

    is it most efficient to divide up the functionalities of our self defense systems?.

  • W Westside Steve

    @mld-woody said:

    I think he enjoys not being surrounded by idiots

    Actually woody is just smart enough to know that all he need do is to insult cal and kiss Hecks butt for dog treats.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Actually woody is just smart enough to know that all he need do is to insult cal and kiss Hecks butt for dog treats.

    WSS

    It's funny that you all like it when it's all of you against me, but when Vapor starts posting, and then Woody jumps in, somehow the fact that there are a few guys who are now on my side (for the most part) is too much to handle.

    Woody speaks his mind. So what? You guys can't take more than one person who thinks you're all exceedingly uninformed? Plus, he's being introduced to Cal, who is the most ignorant man I've ever met, for the first time. Trust me - as a liberal guy, it really does take some getting used to.

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    @westside-steve said:

    Actually woody is just smart enough to know that all he need do is to insult cal and kiss Hecks butt for dog treats.

    WSS

    It's funny that you all like it when it's all of you against me, but when Vapor starts posting, and then Woody jumps in, somehow the fact that there are a few guys who are now on my side (for the most part) is too much to handle.

    Woody speaks his mind. So what? You guys can't take more than one person who thinks you're all exceedingly uninformed? Plus, he's being introduced to Cal, who is the most ignorant man I've ever met, for the first time. Trust me - as a liberal guy, it really does take some getting used to.

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    Woody speaks his mind. So what? You guys can't take more than one person who thinks you're all exceedingly uninformed? Plus, he's being introduced to Cal, who is the most ignorant man I've ever met, for the first time. Trust me - as a liberal guy, it really does take some getting used to.

    I don't even consider myself liberal and Cal baffles me daily

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • I am super-human. I have the ability to clout liberals' feeble emotional psyches with logic, jokes, and reason.

    They hate that.🙂

  • H heckofajobbrownie

    @westside-steve said:

    Actually woody is just smart enough to know that all he need do is to insult cal and kiss Hecks butt for dog treats.

    WSS

    It's funny that you all like it when it's all of you against me, but when Vapor starts posting, and then Woody jumps in, somehow the fact that there are a few guys who are now on my side (for the most part) is too much to handle.

    Woody speaks his mind. So what? You guys can't take more than one person who thinks you're all exceedingly uninformed? Plus, he's being introduced to Cal, who is the most ignorant man I've ever met, for the first time. Trust me - as a liberal guy, it really does take some getting used to.

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    It's funny that you all like it when it's all of you against me, but when Vapor starts posting, and then Woody

    Against you?

    On your side?

    Do you think these guys are in lockstep with your ideology? Or me with anyone else here?

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
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  • I'm not sure you understood what I said, and now I don't understand what you are getting at.

    I'm saying for a while I was the only voice that wasn't from the right wing, or the extreme right wing, or where you are - the "I'm not really for anything, just don't like liberals" wing. Now Vapor and Woody are in here, using sound, evidence-based arguments, and even something that's plainly obvious, like that Cal is insane and noxious, must mean something about him trying to win "dog treats."

    Of course, you agree that Cal is horribly lost, you just don't say so.

  • W Westside Steve

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    It's funny that you all like it when it's all of you against me, but when Vapor starts posting, and then Woody

    Against you?

    On your side?

    Do you think these guys are in lockstep with your ideology? Or me with anyone else here?

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Against you?

    On your side?

    Do you think these guys are in lockstep with your ideology? Or me with anyone else here?

    WSS

    When I first came to the forum and posted my toxic liberal faggot views, a bunch of posters ganged up on me. Heck was posting more rarely at the time so it was a little much for me. As for why I typically find myself on the same side of an argument as heck or woody is because they also use logic and evidence to fuel their arguments. Whereas, when I see stuff from cal and T, I see gut emotional reactions from under a tin foil hat. I'm trying to argue with you in other threads, but right now you're changing the subject every time I come back to the same point I'm trying to make. I don't always agree with heck and woody though, for example, I think Woody's got his head up his ass when it comes to gun control because he hasn't put together a cohesive argument for his views. On this forum, I find that most of the views I'm arguing against are arguments of ignorance.

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  • You might have missed Tupa's tenure in here. He was about as smart a conservative as I've run into in a while. I expect him to serve in conservative politics, or conservative administrations in the future, if he isn't already.

    I wouldn't even let someone know about all of his posts in here should he ever be up for confirmation. We need more of him on the other side, not less, even though I completely disagree with him on some issues.

  • VaporTrailV VaporTrail

    @westside-steve said:

    Against you?

    On your side?

    Do you think these guys are in lockstep with your ideology? Or me with anyone else here?

    WSS

    When I first came to the forum and posted my toxic liberal faggot views, a bunch of posters ganged up on me. Heck was posting more rarely at the time so it was a little much for me. As for why I typically find myself on the same side of an argument as heck or woody is because they also use logic and evidence to fuel their arguments. Whereas, when I see stuff from cal and T, I see gut emotional reactions from under a tin foil hat. I'm trying to argue with you in other threads, but right now you're changing the subject every time I come back to the same point I'm trying to make. I don't always agree with heck and woody though, for example, I think Woody's got his head up his ass when it comes to gun control because he hasn't put together a cohesive argument for his views. On this forum, I find that most of the views I'm arguing against are arguments of ignorance.

    @vaportrail said:

    I think Woody's got his head up his ass when it comes to gun control because he hasn't put together a cohesive argument for his views. On this forum, I find that most of the views I'm arguing against are arguments of ignorance.

    I said I am not sure. Do I have to be sure about everything?

    I can give you a range I think is right...

    Cal.........conservatives.......me........liberals............hippies

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Heck, since you don't mind asking everybody what they do for a living maybe you could share with us who you work for and what is your job consist of doing?

    Head or Gut?

  • What does everyone do?

    Maybe we should have a thread that shoes occupation, age, education

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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