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  • Top 5 QB's would be:

    P. Manning

    Brady

    Rodgers

    Brees

    E. Manning or Rivers

    Id take any of those choices before I even considered Ben.

    @nickers said:

    Top 5 QB's would be:

    P. Manning

    Brady

    Rodgers

    Brees

    E. Manning or Rivers

    Id take any of those choices before I even considered Ben.

    At this point, I would take Roethlisberger over P.Manning and Rivers.

  • @nickers said:

    Top 5 QB's would be:

    P. Manning

    Brady

    Rodgers

    Brees

    E. Manning or Rivers

    Id take any of those choices before I even considered Ben.

    At this point, I would take Roethlisberger over P.Manning and Rivers.

    @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    At this point, I would take Roethlisberger over P.Manning and Rivers.

    Don't come in here with that nonsense PIZZA. You're supposed to be a BROWNS FAN!

  • @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    At this point, I would take Roethlisberger over P.Manning and Rivers.

    Don't come in here with that nonsense PIZZA. You're supposed to be a BROWNS FAN!

    Homotron said:

    Don't come in here with that nonsense PIZZA. You're supposed to be a BROWNS FAN!

    Why? When it is pure realism. Payton Manning has had 4 neck surgeries and is going to be 36 at the end of March. BR is 6 years younger, will turn just 30 on March 2d.

    Rivers may in fact be the better QB, but he has not come up with the better results in his career. BR has had somewhat the better team around him....and BR has had the better coaching.

    Norv Turner. Need more be said?

  • Homotron said:

    Don't come in here with that nonsense PIZZA. You're supposed to be a BROWNS FAN!

    Why? When it is pure realism. Payton Manning has had 4 neck surgeries and is going to be 36 at the end of March. BR is 6 years younger, will turn just 30 on March 2d.

    Rivers may in fact be the better QB, but he has not come up with the better results in his career. BR has had somewhat the better team around him....and BR has had the better coaching.

    Norv Turner. Need more be said?

    @the-gipper said:

    Why? When it is pure realism. Payton Manning has had 4 neck surgeries and is going to be 36 at the end of March. BR is 6 years younger, will turn just 30 on March 2d.

    Rivers may in fact be the better QB, but he has not come up with the better results in his career. BR has had somewhat the better team around him....and BR has had the better coaching.

    Norv Turner. Need more be said?

    I'm a huge fan of Rivers abilities but some guys just seem to get it done when it matters and some don't. That is why I would take BR over Rivers. I'm not saying BR is top 5 for sure but there are only 3 QBs (Rodgers, Brees, Brady) that I would take before him for certain. The rest are up in the air.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Why? When it is pure realism. Payton Manning has had 4 neck surgeries and is going to be 36 at the end of March. BR is 6 years younger, will turn just 30 on March 2d.

    Rivers may in fact be the better QB, but he has not come up with the better results in his career. BR has had somewhat the better team around him....and BR has had the better coaching.

    Norv Turner. Need more be said?

    I'm a huge fan of Rivers abilities but some guys just seem to get it done when it matters and some don't. That is why I would take BR over Rivers. I'm not saying BR is top 5 for sure but there are only 3 QBs (Rodgers, Brees, Brady) that I would take before him for certain. The rest are up in the air.

    @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    I'm a huge fan of Rivers abilities but some guys just seem to get it done when it matters and some don't. That is why I would take BR over Rivers. I'm not saying BR is top 5 for sure but there are only 3 QBs (Rodgers, Brees, Brady) that I would take before him for certain. The rest are up in the air.

    Fair enough. You are right. Rivers and the whole Chargers team has not gotten it done when it counts. (Ah...but can you say the same thing about Brady at least since 2004?)

  • Homotron said:

    Don't come in here with that nonsense PIZZA. You're supposed to be a BROWNS FAN!

    Why? When it is pure realism. Payton Manning has had 4 neck surgeries and is going to be 36 at the end of March. BR is 6 years younger, will turn just 30 on March 2d.

    Rivers may in fact be the better QB, but he has not come up with the better results in his career. BR has had somewhat the better team around him....and BR has had the better coaching.

    Norv Turner. Need more be said?

    @the-gipper said:

    Why? When it is pure realism. Payton Manning has had 4 neck surgeries and is going to be 36 at the end of March. BR is 6 years younger, will turn just 30 on March 2d.

    Rivers may in fact be the better QB, but he has not come up with the better results in his career. BR has had somewhat the better team around him....and BR has had the better coaching.

    Norv Turner. Need more be said?

    Your sarcasm meter must be WAY off. Ben has been better than Rivers for a while and clearly Manning is done.

  • Why in the hell is there a thread about the Steelers?

    I would say Rivers is a better QB,Roethlisberger is a better football player.

    Hines Ward released. I say we sign him and have him clean the toilets,I think Rodney Harrison wanted to slap that bitch at the Superbowl.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Why? When it is pure realism. Payton Manning has had 4 neck surgeries and is going to be 36 at the end of March. BR is 6 years younger, will turn just 30 on March 2d.

    Rivers may in fact be the better QB, but he has not come up with the better results in his career. BR has had somewhat the better team around him....and BR has had the better coaching.

    Norv Turner. Need more be said?

    Your sarcasm meter must be WAY off. Ben has been better than Rivers for a while and clearly Manning is done.

    Homotron said:

    Your sarcasm meter must be WAY off. Ben has been better than Rivers for a while and clearly Manning is done.

    Ben's team has been better than Rivers. Ben's coaches has been better than Rivers. But I don't know if Ben is better than Rivers. It is close enough to be debatable.

    As far as Manning, neither I nor you have a clue as to whether or not he is done.

  • Homotron said:

    Your sarcasm meter must be WAY off. Ben has been better than Rivers for a while and clearly Manning is done.

    Ben's team has been better than Rivers. Ben's coaches has been better than Rivers. But I don't know if Ben is better than Rivers. It is close enough to be debatable.

    As far as Manning, neither I nor you have a clue as to whether or not he is done.

    @the-gipper said:

    Ben's team has been better than Rivers. Ben's coaches has been better than Rivers. But I don't know if Ben is better than Rivers. It is close enough to be debatable.

    As far as Manning, neither I nor you have a clue as to whether or not he is done.

    I think Rivers has had the better offensive talent around him.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Ben's team has been better than Rivers. Ben's coaches has been better than Rivers. But I don't know if Ben is better than Rivers. It is close enough to be debatable.

    As far as Manning, neither I nor you have a clue as to whether or not he is done.

    I think Rivers has had the better offensive talent around him.

    @pizzadeliveryguy said:

    I think Rivers has had the better offensive talent around him.

    And at times he had an outstanding defense. Yes, Rivers gets some of the blame, but for me, for that Chargers team it always comes back down to the coaching. At first, Rivers had Marty as HC and we all know that Marty always choked up in the big games. But then he has had Norv Turner, who makes Marty's esophagus looke like a wind tunnel.

  • Looks like Wallace might be a goner, Steelers plan to tender him so maybe someone with a pick in the 20's snags him up.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7633206/pittsburgh-steelers-franchise-wr-mike-wallace-source-says

  • Looks like Wallace might be a goner, Steelers plan to tender him so maybe someone with a pick in the 20's snags him up.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7633206/pittsburgh-steelers-franchise-wr-mike-wallace-source-says

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    Looks like Wallace might be a goner, Steelers plan to tender him so maybe someone with a pick in the 20's snags him up.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7633206/pittsburgh-steelers-franchise-wr-mike-wallace-source-says

    Someone can offer him a contract but the Steelers will have the ability to match. I sincerely doubt he goes and if he does the Steelers will have driven up the price. I also love Mike Wallace BUT as of right now Antonio Brown is the more complete receiver. If we do get a first then I'd expect the Steelers to trade up for DeCastro or someone of similar talent and the Steelers don't miss a beat. I'd LOVE for the Steelers to get a crack at DeCastro, what a difference he'd make.

  • Why in the hell is there a thread about the Steelers?

    I would say Rivers is a better QB,Roethlisberger is a better football player.

    Hines Ward released. I say we sign him and have him clean the toilets,I think Rodney Harrison wanted to slap that bitch at the Superbowl.

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    Why in the hell is there a thread about the Steelers?

    I would say Rivers is a better QB,Roethlisberger is a better football player.

    Hines Ward released. I say we sign him and have him clean the toilets,I think Rodney Harrison wanted to slap that bitch at the Superbowl.

    Is it really that difficult to figure out? Wallace is a restricted free agent and the thread is about Mike Wallace.

  • @badnewsbrowns said:

    Looks like Wallace might be a goner, Steelers plan to tender him so maybe someone with a pick in the 20's snags him up.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7633206/pittsburgh-steelers-franchise-wr-mike-wallace-source-says

    Someone can offer him a contract but the Steelers will have the ability to match. I sincerely doubt he goes and if he does the Steelers will have driven up the price. I also love Mike Wallace BUT as of right now Antonio Brown is the more complete receiver. If we do get a first then I'd expect the Steelers to trade up for DeCastro or someone of similar talent and the Steelers don't miss a beat. I'd LOVE for the Steelers to get a crack at DeCastro, what a difference he'd make.

    Homotron said:

    Someone can offer him a contract but the Steelers will have the ability to match. I sincerely doubt he goes and if he does the Steelers will have driven up the price. I also love Mike Wallace BUT as of right now Antonio Brown is the more complete receiver. If we do get a first then I'd expect the Steelers to trade up for DeCastro or someone of similar talent and the Steelers don't miss a beat. I'd LOVE for the Steelers to get a crack at DeCastro, what a difference he'd make.

    You would trade Wallace for DeCastro?

    Don't you listen to Ghoolie? OLinemen are a dime a dozen compared to skill players. You should be looking at your 6th round pick to get your OL, not 1st round.

  • Homotron said:

    Someone can offer him a contract but the Steelers will have the ability to match. I sincerely doubt he goes and if he does the Steelers will have driven up the price. I also love Mike Wallace BUT as of right now Antonio Brown is the more complete receiver. If we do get a first then I'd expect the Steelers to trade up for DeCastro or someone of similar talent and the Steelers don't miss a beat. I'd LOVE for the Steelers to get a crack at DeCastro, what a difference he'd make.

    You would trade Wallace for DeCastro?

    Don't you listen to Ghoolie? OLinemen are a dime a dozen compared to skill players. You should be looking at your 6th round pick to get your OL, not 1st round.

    @the-gipper said:

    You would trade Wallace for DeCastro?

    Don't you listen to Ghoolie? OLinemen are a dime a dozen compared to skill players. You should be looking at your 6th round pick to get your OL, not 1st round.

    I honestly think I would and we'd still have our other first to draft BPA. It would likely take a first and a 3rd, maybe a little more to move up in to DeCastro range. We need another Faneca type on our line and no I don't believe elite o-lineman are a dime a dozen. It's certainly easier to plug in a capable player and still function but you notice elite lineman.

    EDIT: And I know you're poking at Ghoolie.