Hall Of Fame/ring Of Fame Worthy Browns

[The Gipper]

The next list is Linebackers. This is long because it includes all LBs, inside and outside:

Patrick Willis 4 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

DeMarcus Ware 4 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Terrell Suggs 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Lance Briggs 1 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Julius Peterson 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Al Wilson 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Ray Lewis 7 All Pro, 12 Pro Bowl

Zach Thomas 5 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Derrck Brooks 5 All Pro, 11 Pro Bowl

Jessie Armstead, 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Junior Seau 6 All Pro, 12 Pro Bowl

Chris Spielman, 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Cornelius Bennet 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Hardy Nickerson 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Greg Lloyd, 3 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Pat Swilling 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Kevin Greene 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Wilbur Marshall 2 All Pro, 3 Pro Bowl

Karl Mecklenburg, 3 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Robert Brazile, 2 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Randy Gradishar 2 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Matt Blair, 1 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl\

Brad Van Pelt, no All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Isiah Robinson, 2 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Bill Bergey, 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

George Webster, 3 All Pro, 3 Pro Bowl

Tommy Nobis 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Mike Curtis, 2 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Lee Roy Jordan 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Andy Russell, no All Pro 7 Pro Bowl

Mike Stratton 3 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

E.J. Holub, 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Maxie Baughn 2 All Pro, 9 Pro Bowl

Larry Grantham 5 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Chuck Howley 5 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl plus one Super Bowl MVP

Bill Forester 3 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Joe Fortunato 3 All Pro 5 Pro Bowl

Who should be in?

Who did I miss? (I know, I missed Clay Matthews...but his -0- All Pro and only 4 Pro Bowls didn't seem to match up)

[The Gipper]

Here is my final list, Defensive Backs. I will leave the offensive skill players for later:

Defensive Backs, Safeties and Corners:

Darrelle Revis 3 All Pro, 3 Pro Bowl

Bob Sanders 2 and 2

Troy Polamalu 4 and 6

Nmandi Asomugha 2 and 3

Ed Reed 5 and 7

Champ Bailey 3 and 10

Charles Woodson 3 and 7

Sam Madison 2 and 4

Darren Sharper 2 and 5

Ronde Barber 3 and 5

Brian Dawkins 4 and 8

Ty Law 2 and 5

Troy Vincent 1 and 5

John Lynch 2 and 9

Darren Woodson 3 and 5

Aeneas Williams 3 and 8

Leroy Butler 4 and 4

Steve Atwater 2 and 8

Carnell Lake 1 and 5

Eric Allen 1 and 6

Tim McDonald 0 and 6

Joey Browner 3 and 6

Albert Lewis 2 and 4

Kenny Easley 3 and 5

Hanford Dixon 2 and 3

Dennis Smith 0 and 6

Nolan Cromwell 3 and 4

Lester Hayes 1 and 5

Louis Wright 1 and 5

Jake Scott 2 and 5

LeMar Parish 1 and 8

Butch Byrd 3 and 5

George Saimes 3 and 5

Johnny Robinson 6 and 7

Goose Gonsolin 2 and 5

Eddie Meador 2 and 6

Erich Barnes 1 and 6

Abe Woodson 2 and 5

Jimmy Patton 5 and 5

Bobby Dillon 4 and 4

Who should be in?

Who did I miss? I know, Frank Minniefield. He was all Pro one time with 4 Pro Bowls

[nickers]

If Clay Mathews played on a team in Cali or NY...or about any town not named Cleveland...hed definately be in...what are these assholes smoking?

[The Gipper]

@nickers said:

If Clay Mathews played on a team in Cali or NY...or about any town not named Cleveland...hed definately be in...what are these assholes smoking?

I thought that possibly, until I did this research. Then I realized that his cred apparently didn't match up to some of his competitors for the HOF.

A key to most of the positions I have listed here, unlike offensive skill positions, is that you do not have the statistics, like TD passes, yards gained, catches etc. etc to compare....so you compare Pro Bowl appearances and All Pro selections. At least it becomes a major criteria.

[The Gipper]

@the-gipper said:

Here is my final list, Defensive Backs. I will leave the offensive skill players for later:

Defensive Backs, Safeties and Corners:

My views on who should make it:

Darrelle Revis 3 All Pro, 3 Pro Bowl After only 3 years he appears to ultimately be a lock

Bob Sanders 2 and 2

Troy Polamalu 4 and 6 At least his hair will make it whether or not he should

Nmandi Asomugha 2 and 3

Ed Reed 5 and 7

Champ Bailey 3 and 10

Charles Woodson 3 and 7

Sam Madison 2 and 4

Darren Sharper 2 and 5

Ronde Barber 3 and 5

Brian Dawkins 4 and 8

Ty Law 2 and 5

Troy Vincent 1 and 5

John Lynch 2 and 9

Darren Woodson 3 and 5

Aeneas Williams 3 and 8

Leroy Butler 4 and 4

Steve Atwater 2 and 8

Carnell Lake 1 and 5

Eric Allen 1 and 6

Tim McDonald 0 and 6

Joey Browner 3 and 6

Albert Lewis 2 and 4

Kenny Easley 3 and 5

Hanford Dixon 2 and 3

Dennis Smith 0 and 6

Nolan Cromwell 3 and 4

Lester Hayes 1 and 5

Louis Wright 1 and 5

Jake Scott 2 and 5

LeMar Parish 1 and 8

Butch Byrd 3 and 5

George Saimes 3 and 5

Johnny Robinson 6 and 7How can he not be in with these creds?

Goose Gonsolin 2 and 5

Eddie Meador 2 and 6

Erich Barnes 1 and 6

Abe Woodson 2 and 5

Jimmy Patton 5 and 5

Bobby Dillon 4 and 4

Who should be in?

Who did I miss? I know, Frank Minniefield. He was all Pro one time with 4 Pro Bowls

Actually, they should induct Abe Woodson, Darren Woodson, and Charles Woodson all in the same year to go along with Rod Woodson who is already in.

[The Gipper]

@the-gipper said:

The next list is Linebackers. This is long because it includes all LBs, inside and outside:

My choices for eventual inclusion:

Patrick Willis 4 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

DeMarcus Ware 4 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

If these two continue to become perennial All Pros they will be the Lewis and Seau of their generation

Terrell Suggs 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Lance Briggs 1 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Julius Peterson 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Al Wilson 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Ray Lewis 7 All Pro, 12 Pro Bowl

Zach Thomas 5 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Derrck Brooks 5 All Pro, 11 Pro Bowl

Jessie Armstead, 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Junior Seau 6 All Pro, 12 Pro Bowl

Chris Spielman, 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Cornelius Bennet 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Hardy Nickerson 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Greg Lloyd, 3 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Pat Swilling 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Kevin Greene 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Wilbur Marshall 2 All Pro, 3 Pro Bowl

Karl Mecklenburg, 3 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Robert Brazile, 2 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Randy Gradishar 2 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Matt Blair, 1 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl\

Brad Van Pelt, no All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Isiah Robinson, 2 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Bill Bergey, 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

George Webster, 3 All Pro, 3 Pro Bowl

Tommy Nobis 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Mike Curtis, 2 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Lee Roy Jordan 1 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Andy Russell, no All Pro 7 Pro Bowl

Mike Stratton 3 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

E.J. Holub, 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Maxie Baughn 2 All Pro, 9 Pro Bowl

Larry Grantham 5 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Chuck Howley 5 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl plus one Super Bowl MVP

Bill Forester 3 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Joe Fortunato 3 All Pro 5 Pro Bowl

Who should be in?

Who did I miss? (I know, I missed Clay Matthews...but his -0- All Pro and only 4 Pro Bowls didn't seem to match up)

[The Gipper]

@the-gipper said:

Next category

Defensive Ends:

Jared Allen 4 All Pro, 5 Pro BowlHas more time to add to his credentials.

Julius Peppers 3 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Dwight Freeny, 3 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Richard Seymour, 3 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

of the previous three, the one that breaks out with more Pro Bowls and All Pros could have the advantage

Jason Taylor, 3 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

John Abraham, 2 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Michael Strahan, 4 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Leslie O'Neal, no All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Charles Haley, 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Mark Gastineau, 3 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Too Tall Jones, 1 All Pro, 3 Pro Bowl

Harvey Martin, 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Claude Humphrey 2 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Larry Eisenhauer 3 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Earl Faison 4 All Pro, 5 Pro BowlMay eventually get senior committee selection

Jerry Mays 2 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Who is in? or out?

Did I miss someone?

[The Gipper]

@the-gipper said:

Next category:

Defensive Tackles

Kevin Williams 5 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Kris Jenkins 2 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Warren Sapp 4 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Michael Dean Perry 2 All Pro 6 Pro Bowl

Joe Klecko 2 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Gary Johnson 2 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Curley Culp 1 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Tom Sestak, 3 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Ernie Ladd 3 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

I always thought "The Big Cat" deserved inclusion, but he had off field problems that kept him out.

Roger Brown 2 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Alex Karras, 3 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Same here. "Mongo's" gambling that got him suspended for a year has kept him out, even though his fellow gambler, Paul Hornung, was let in.

Who should be in?

Who did I miss?

[The Gipper]

@the-gipper said:

List of Tight Ends:

Jason Witten 2 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Jeremy Shockey 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Alge Crumpler no All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Tony Gonzales 5 All Pro, 11 Pro Bowl

Ben Coates 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Keith Jackson 3 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Steve Jordan no All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Todd Christenson 2 All Pro 5 Pro Bowl

Bob Trumpy 1 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Fred Arbanas, 3 All Pro 5 Pro Bowl

Arbanas was drafted the same year as Mike Ditka, and made the same number of All Pro teams and more Pro Bowls than Ditka.

Antonio Gates, 3 All Pro, 8 Pro Bowl

Who should be in?

Did I miss someone?

[The Gipper]

@the-gipper said:

The next list is of Offensive Tackles: (the first two are active)

Joe Thomas 3 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl. If he keeps on like he is JT will get in.

Jahri Evans 3 All Pro...but only 2 Pro Bowl

Walter Jones 4 All Pro, 9 Pro Bowl

Orlando Pace 3 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Jonathan Ogden, 3 All Pro, 11 Pro Bowl

Willie Anderson, 3 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Tony Boselli, 3 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Richmond Webb, 2 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Jim Lachey 3 All Pro, 3 Pro Bowl

Marvin Powell 3 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Leon Gray 3 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

Jim Tyrer 6 All Pro, 9 Pro Bowl

Dick Schafrath 4 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

With the dearth of guards and centers, Tackles get the HOF glory. By the way, Schafrath, Tyrer, and Pace all went to Ohio State.Who should be in?

Did I miss someone?

[The Gipper]

@the-gipper said:

The next list is offensive guards. There is a bigger group to choose from here:

Offensive Guards:

Steve Hutchinson 5 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Alan Faneca 6 All Pro, 9 Pro Bowl

Larry Allen 6 All Pro, 11 Pro Bowl

Steve Wisniewski 2 All Pro, 8 Pro Bowl

Bill Fralic 2 All Pro, 4 Pro Bowl

John Nyland 2 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Gale Gillingham 2 All Pro, 5 Pro Bowl

Ed Budde, 2 All Pro, 7 Pro Bowl

Walt Sweeney, 2 All Pro, 9 Pro Bowl

Jerry Kramer, 5 All Pro...but only 3 Pro Bowl ??

Kramer has been considered in the past. What holds him back from having been selected is the fact that two other fellow linemen on those Packers team are in: Gregg and Ringo. Maybe the HOF didn't want to packed with Packers.

Ken Gray 2 All Pro, 6 Pro Bowl

Who should be in?

Did I miss anyone?

[The Gipper]

@the-gipper said:

Along this line of thinking, I am going to post lists of potential Hall of Fame Candidates at various positions based on their Pro Bowl and All Pro numbers, starting with:

Centers

This category seems fairly weak. There are a couple of future candidates:

Kevin Mawae 3 All Pro, 8 Pro Bowls

Nick Mangold 2 All Pro, 3 Pro Bowl

Mangold is only in like his 5th year, and is considered the cream of the current center crop.

Who belongs?

Did I miss someone you can think of?