Trent Richardson

slimdawg

I never was high on taking Richardson but the more i think about it, i dont think id mind much if they took him. I think him touching the ball 20+ times per game would greatly reduce the pressure off of McCoy and on top of that i think our play action game could finally become effective.

Loyalty

I am really curious what people want the Browns to draft position-wise.

The mention of taking a RB at #4 after losing our starter in Hillis makes sense (minus the fact that Richardson was injured during the combine).

Then comes the option of Blackmon, but then people say it is silly to take a WR that high. OK... So, we will stick with SlowMoMass and Little?...

The only player I don't hear people get pissed about is Morris Claiborne... I appreciate the value of having he and Haden, but don't we need to score points to win games?

Are you going to tell me that Tannehill is a #4 pick?... I doubt it.

darren15

@loyalty said:

I am really curious what people want the Browns to draft position-wise.

The mention of taking a RB at #4 after losing our starter in Hillis makes sense (minus the fact that Richardson was injured during the combine).

Then comes the option of Blackmon, but then people say it is silly to take a WR that high. OK... So, we will stick with SlowMoMass and Little?...

The only player I don't hear people get pissed about is Morris Claiborne... I appreciate the value of having he and Haden, but don't we need to score points to win games?

Are you going to tell me that Tannehill is a #4 pick?... I doubt it.

We have Dawson to score points, don't need anyone else

PoeticG

#4- Trent Richardson

#22- Kendall Wright, Stephen Hill, or Donta Hightower

#37- Best OL/Chase Minnifield

hoorta

@poeticg said:

#4- Trent Richardson

#22- Kendall Wright, Stephen Hill, or Donta Hightower

#37- Best OL/Chase Minnifield

OK, I can live with that- but I can about guarantee you the Browns are not taking Richardson @ #4. We'll go RB shopping in the second round just like we did with Hardesty (hopefully no walking ER this time).

See below, and compare Richardson's COLLEGE highlights to this guys PRO highlights. Pay attention to about the 27 second mark. NO comparison.

Bo was doing this against NFL caliber guys- running them over, or outrunning NFL corners when he couldn't run them over- not guys who will be sitting at home watching the NFL on TV Sundays.

hoorta

@loyalty said:

I am really curious what people want the Browns to draft position-wise.

The mention of taking a RB at #4 after losing our starter in Hillis makes sense (minus the fact that Richardson was injured during the combine).

Then comes the option of Blackmon, but then people say it is silly to take a WR that high. OK... So, we will stick with SlowMoMass and Little?...

The only player I don't hear people get pissed about is Morris Claiborne... I appreciate the value of having he and Haden, but don't we need to score points to win games?

Are you going to tell me that Tannehill is a #4 pick?... I doubt it.

Plenty of decent backs have come out of the second round lately- Jones-Drew and Ray Rice for starters. People don't think Blackmon is worth the #4 overall- however Calvin Johnson sure was worth the #2.

Caliborne is certainly the best talent after the two qbs, and would give the Browns their best starting tandem there since Minnifield and Dixon. But the Eagles and Jets didn't make the playoffs- and they both happen to have two stud CBs. Just sayin'.

Missing out on RGIII royally screwed the Browns as far as taking a qb. #4 is way too high to take Tannehill, and even if (big IF) the Browns could find someone willing to trade up to #4 and drop down into the mid first round, Tanehill won't get past the Dolpins, Seahawks, or Chiefs who are drafting in the 10 range.

The Gipper

@miktoxic said:

you got to be insane to pick a running back at #4. big Fing deal he did this and that. how has peterson led the vikes to the SB?

why does everybody/some people just clamp their chompers around some of these guys cocks?

jimmy johnson once said that you can turn a corner and find a running back. it's about who's in front to block for the asshole.

Don't you read any of the threads I have put on here? A High pick RB is less of a risk than a high pick QB.

miktoxic

@the-gipper said:

Don't you read any of the threads I have put on here? A High pick RB is less of a risk than a high pick QB.

i agree. but i still wouldn't pick him at #4.

if i were heckert i would take claiborne or trade down and get the best DE. then WR. then LB. RT. RB. then whatever.

someone mentioned the jets and eagles not making the playoffs with their talent at the CB position. i'll guarantee you the eagles defense will play better this year after having a year of learning to play together. jets just suck.

choco

@the-gipper said:

Don't you read any of the threads I have put on here? A High pick RB is less of a risk than a high pick QB.

with all due respect, likelihood of drafting a HOFer may not be the best metric for determining when to draft a position. i cant fathom lower rounds turning out HOFers at any position more often than 1sts.....

a HOFer would be nice, but we just need players. success and a HOF career are not mutually exclusive.

The Gipper

@choco said:

with all due respect, likelihood of drafting a HOFer may not be the best metric for determining when to draft a position. i cant fathom lower rounds turning out HOFers at any position more often than 1sts.....

a HOFer would be nice, but we just need players. success and a HOF career are not mutually exclusive.

Again, to me, the big question is the "Bust" factor vs. the success factor when you are drafting that high. Here are the RBs taken in the Top 10 picks of the draft for the past 20 years:

1 2010 1 9 C.J. Spiller RB BUF 2010 2011 0 0 1 4 30 181 844 4 63 426 3 Clemson

2 2008 1 4 Darren McFadden RB OAK 2008 2011 0 0 1 20 45 553 2627 16 116 1191 4 Arkansas

3 2007 1 7 Adrian Peterson RB MIN 2007 2011 2 4 5 47 73 1406 6752 64 137 1309 3 Oklahoma

4 2006 1 2 Reggie Bush RB NOR 2006 2011 0 0 5 35 75 740 3176 23 337 2438 13 USC

5 2005 1 2 Ronnie Brown RB MIA 2005 2011 0 1 6 36 92 1170 4951 37 184 1491 2 Auburn

6 2005 1 4 Cedric Benson RB CHI 2005 2011 0 0 5 28 91 1529 5769 31 106 736 1 Texas

7 2005 1 5 Cadillac Williams RB TAM 2005 2011 0 0 4 26 82 1055 4038 21 148 1002 4 Auburn

8 2001 1 5 LaDainian Tomlinson RB SDG 2001 2011 3 5 10 124 170 3174 13684 145 624 4772 17 TCU

9 2000 1 5 Jamal Lewis RB BAL 2000 2009 1 1 9 70 131 2542 10607 58 221 1879 4 Tennessee

10 2000 1 7 Thomas Jones RB ARI 2000 2011 0 1 8 62 180 2678 10591 68 308 2023 3 Virginia

11 1999 1 4 Edgerrin James RB IND 1999 2009 1 4 9 114 148 3028 12246 80 433 3364 11 Miami (FL)

12 1999 1 5 Ricky Williams RB NOR 1999 2011 1 1 5 74 147 2431 10009 66 342 2606 8 Texas

13 1998 1 5 Curtis Enis RB CHI 1998 2000 0 0 2 10 36 456 1497 4 59 428 2 Penn St.

14 1998 1 9 Fred Taylor RB JAX 1998 2010 0 1 9 88 153 2534 11695 66 290 2384 8 Florida

15 1996 1 6 Lawrence Phillips RB STL 1996 1999 0 0 2 15 35 424 1453 14 34 219 1 Nebraska

16 1996 1 8 Tim Biakabutuka RB CAR 1996 2001 0 0 2 26 50 611 2530 14 77 789 3 Michigan

17 1995 1 1 Ki-Jana Carter RB CIN 1996 2004 0 0 0 12 59 319 1144 20 66 469 1 Penn St.

18 1994 1 2 Marshall Faulk HOF RB IND 1994 2005 3 7 11 133 176 2836 12279 100 767 6875 36 San Diego St.

19 1993 1 3 Garrison Hearst RB PHO 1993 2004 0 2 7 71 126 1831 7966 30 229 2065 9 Georgia

20 1993 1 10 Jerome Bettis RB RAM 1993 2005 2 6 12 79 192 3479 13662 91 200 1449 3 Notre Dame

21 1992 1 9 Tommy Vardell RB CLE 1992 1999 0 0 4

Now, there are a few busts in there...stay away from Penn St. RBs, but the fact is that most of these guys had pretty outstanding careers...so the success rate amongst RBs taken that high seems to be good.....better than for QBs.

Unsympathetic

At 4: The choice now is Blackmon or Claiborne. Richardson shouldn't be a part of it - I'd trade a 3rd for Tate in a heartbeat.

At 22:

a If they don't get Winston from Houston in FA: Mike Adams.

b If they don't get Blackmon or Winston: Stephen Hill [Wright ran a 4.65]

At 37: Minnifield

Harry Buffalo

If there is no trade with Tate, expect Richardson to be the pick.

bringbackbrownie2

@harry-buffalo said:

If there is no trade with Tate, expect Richardson to be the pick.

I still don't buy this. Heckert has never spent a 1st round pick on a RB. We will draft one in the 2nd or 3rd round.

Harry Buffalo

There is a first time for everything.

Canton Mike

There will be solid WRs at 22 & even 37 (plus don't overlook Fleener, TE from Stanford-I really like him), but there is only ONE back like Richardson. I still think we can trade down to 6 & get him. If you want a slam dunk offensive playmaker from what's left on the board, the safest bet is Richardson.

Mike

brownfish

@canton-mike said:

There will be solid WRs at 22 & even 37 (plus don't overlook Fleener, TE from Stanford-I really like him), but there is only ONE back like Richardson. I still think we can trade down to 6 & get him. If you want a slam dunk offensive playmaker from what's left on the board, the safest bet is Richardson.

Mike

i agree but solid like momass, robiskie?

little, norwood, cribbs, mitchell FLOYD, STREETER or WRIGHT, MCNUTT (if we are lucky)

it's amazing how slow norwood ran at his proday and combine 4.57 but yet is our best slot guy

i'm hoping we can get tolbert, clayton and ginn some cheap office semi-talent

Harry Buffalo

@brownfish said:

i agree but solid like momass, robiskie?

little, norwood, cribbs, mitchell FLOYD, STREETER or WRIGHT, MCNUTT (if we are lucky)

it's amazing how slow norwood ran at his proday and combine 4.57 but yet is our best slot guy

i'm hoping we can get tolbert, clayton and ginn some cheap office semi-talent

Game speed vs running speed. He is much faster in a game and he is quick as all get out which is the most important thing. Welker doesn't run faster than a 4.5 and is more around a 4.6 but is a great slot guy.

cambridgeho

Trent put up better numbers then mark did the year before and mark won the Heisman. Rg3 threw against the worst d's in the leauge and he will have cost a team 2 many picks, and all if this in a goddamn hunch. Is trent worth a 4th pick probably not , but what is he worth to this team. He will go to a fn pats team and be a damn beast or better yet to cincy and run on us all year. Like it or not rb has become our biggest need.

brownfish

We will need a RB bad at 4 or 6 or 22...our current 3 Chris, Montario and Brandon had a combined ONE TOUCHDOWN last year....I thought H&H was concentrating on the running game? If we can get Winston signed maybe we can attract tolbert or bush

PoeticG

Richardson is an absolute monster! He's a little shorter but you'd ideally like your runningback to be a bit smaller, however he's built like a tank! The dudes muscles have muscles on them... it's crazy. I can't believe Hillis punked out on us and went to KC... wow. At least we'll have a guy that is Fresh in the league and will be a Brown from the get go.. that's how I like my Browns anyway. I really hope he beasts it out here and retires a Brown after 10 or 12 years and 10 probowls to go along with our 7 superbowl rings and the 15,000+ yards... here's to the future- T1000 terminating the competition! Beast-Mode!