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  • TheClevelandSound TheClevelandSoundT
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    TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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    Quote from Holmgren yesterday:

    "Going from 4-12 to 6-10 isn't good enough," Holmgren said. "And that's been conveyed. I believe we are going to be better than that -- in fact, we're going to be a lot better than that. Hang in there a little longer."

    Maybe he is starting to get it.

    Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10
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    • Louisville Slugger Louisville SluggerL
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      Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger wrote on last edited by
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      This is sad. The Eagles and Jets garuntee a super bowl, while Holmie is shooting for 7 games.

      Im pretty sure he believes that the world is ending in December because he knows that he is putting together a 4 win team.

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        b86bB b86b wrote on last edited by
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        Pitts 2x

        Balt 2x

        Cincy 2x

        Buff

        dall

        NYG

        Wash

        Philly

        Indy

        KC

        Den

        SD

        OAK

        You tell me where you see 7-9 wins against that schedule.. I could see us being 2-14 very easily, this could be a very lloongg year, will make the drives to Cleveland very long this winter.

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          nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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          He didnt promise anything. He just wants the team to do better and thinks they should...and I dont blame him one iota.

          Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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            Pitts 2x

            Balt 2x

            Cincy 2x

            Buff

            dall

            NYG

            Wash

            Philly

            Indy

            KC

            Den

            SD

            OAK

            You tell me where you see 7-9 wins against that schedule.. I could see us being 2-14 very easily, this could be a very lloongg year, will make the drives to Cleveland very long this winter.

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            darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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            @b86b said:

            Pitts 2x

            Balt 2x

            Cincy 2x

            Buff

            dall

            NYG

            Wash

            Philly

            Indy

            KC

            Den

            SD

            OAK

            You tell me where you see 7-9 wins against that schedule.. I could see us being 2-14 very easily, this could be a very lloongg year, will make the drives to Cleveland very long this winter.

            We might beat Indy if it is at home and maybe Oakland ...... 2-14 at the most

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            • Louisville SluggerL Louisville Slugger

              This is sad. The Eagles and Jets garuntee a super bowl, while Holmie is shooting for 7 games.

              Im pretty sure he believes that the world is ending in December because he knows that he is putting together a 4 win team.

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              Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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              @louisville-slugger said:

              This is sad. The Eagles and Jets garuntee a super bowl, while Holmie is shooting for 7 games.

              Im pretty sure he believes that the world is ending in December because he knows that he is putting together a 4 win team.

              How did that work for the Jets and the Eagles last season? Shut the fuck up.

              @darren15 said:

              We might beat Indy if it is at home and maybe Oakland ...... 2-14 at the most

              Shut the fuck up.

              I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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              • TypicalBrowns TypicalBrownsT
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                TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                i think holmgren should shut his mouth.

                so far, with getting rid of hillis AND steinbach, we've gone backwards once again.

                if we dont draft 8 pro bowlers then we will not be better than 6-10 7-9 next year.

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                • TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns

                  i think holmgren should shut his mouth.

                  so far, with getting rid of hillis AND steinbach, we've gone backwards once again.

                  if we dont draft 8 pro bowlers then we will not be better than 6-10 7-9 next year.

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                  hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                  @typicalbrowns said:

                  i think holmgren should shut his mouth.

                  so far, with getting rid of hillis AND steinbach, we've gone backwards once again.

                  if we don't draft 8 pro bowlers then we will not be better than 6-10 7-9 next year.

                  & as a minor note they let Mike Adams and Artis Hicks walk too. No RB, no RT, Little the #1 wr, Colt as starting qb. Whoopee! As you said, Heckert better pull a few draft rabbits out of his hat.

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                    @typicalbrowns said:

                    i think holmgren should shut his mouth.

                    so far, with getting rid of hillis AND steinbach, we've gone backwards once again.

                    if we don't draft 8 pro bowlers then we will not be better than 6-10 7-9 next year.

                    & as a minor note they let Mike Adams and Artis Hicks walk too. No RB, no RT, Little the #1 wr, Colt as starting qb. Whoopee! As you said, Heckert better pull a few draft rabbits out of his hat.

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                    TypicalBrownsT TypicalBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                    @hoorta said:

                    & as a minor note they let Mike Adams and Artis Hicks walk too. No RB, no RT, Little the #1 wr, Colt as starting qb. Whoopee! As you said, Heckert better pull a few draft rabbits out of his hat.

                    its strange....but in a 75 percent sorta way i agree with what King Ghoolie has been saying about Holmgren. maybe he's got his head WAAAYYYYY too far up his own ass to even think practically about the Browns.

                    Gipper said it best, Holmgren is either arrogant or ignorant. one of the two, maybe both.

                    im still so fuckin pissed at hillis walking. i can see holmgren waving out his penthouse office to hillis driving away. "bye peyton! thanks for being a huge asset to the team!"

                    id kick homgren in his ASSet for letting this shit happen.

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                      TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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                      Glad this thread was provacative 😉

                      Predicted Records:2010: 8-82011: 8-82012: 9-72013: 5-112014: 6-10
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                        PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                        Pitts 2x -Cleveland wins one of these

                        Balt 2x -Cleveland wins one of these

                        Cincy 2x -Certainly we win one maybe both of these

                        Buff -Cleveland

                        dall -Close one but Cleveland wins this one

                        NYG -When was the last time Cleveland lost to the defending SB Champs? Cleveland

                        Wash -Ahahaha Cleveland stomps Washington and Taylor flattens RG3

                        Philly -Cleveland

                        Indy -Easily Cleveland

                        KC -Cleveland

                        Den -Cleveland

                        SD -Wow, Cleveland

                        OAK -Ahahaahahaaa Cleveland again... Wow, what this Cleveland @ 14-2 at the most 10-6 at minimum- watch.

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                          H Hunt Daddy wrote on last edited by
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                          Who knows what will happen. Teams change daily. Based on that schedule, I must say I'm glad we play the AFC West. Other than that, it could be a rough on. At least we get to watch the great Andrew Luck play once this year. Hopefully that is the first game of the year so he won't be fully adjusted yet.

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                            LCDawgFan13L LCDawgFan13 wrote on last edited by
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                            Pitts 2x - Split

                            Balt 2x - Split

                            Cincy 2x - at least a split

                            Buff - W

                            dall - W

                            NYG - L

                            Wash - W

                            Philly - L

                            Indy - W

                            KC - W

                            Den - L

                            SD - W

                            OAK - W

                            I do believe this is possible. I am by no means guaranteeing it but it is possible. This would put us at 10-6 pr 11-5. This schedule is not that bad.

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                            • LCDawgFan13L LCDawgFan13

                              Pitts 2x - Split

                              Balt 2x - Split

                              Cincy 2x - at least a split

                              Buff - W

                              dall - W

                              NYG - L

                              Wash - W

                              Philly - L

                              Indy - W

                              KC - W

                              Den - L

                              SD - W

                              OAK - W

                              I do believe this is possible. I am by no means guaranteeing it but it is possible. This would put us at 10-6 pr 11-5. This schedule is not that bad.

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                              J jnuh wrote on last edited by
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                              @lcdawgfan13 said:

                              Pitts 2x - Split

                              Balt 2x - Split

                              Cincy 2x - at least a split

                              Buff - W

                              dall - W

                              NYG - L

                              Wash - W

                              Philly - L

                              Indy - W

                              KC - W

                              Den - L

                              SD - W

                              OAK - W

                              I do believe this is possible. I am by no means guaranteeing it but it is possible. This would put us at 10-6 pr 11-5. This schedule is not that bad.

                              You're 10-6 has us splitting with every team in the division that regularly beats our face in. Whats happens when they sweep us again ... 7-9.

                              We will also probably find a way to lose a couple of the "winnable" games. Unless Colt makes a huge jump from last yr to this year we are in for a long season. Unless we get a real QB. Like last season this season will also ride on the right arm of Colt McCoy.

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                                PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                                edit: ...This season will ride on the BACK of Trent Richardson and The Arm of Colt McCoy supplemented by the hands of Greg Little.

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                                  BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                                  He said this same shit last year about the offense not being acceptable.

                                  What happened, the offense got worse. Don't tell me, show me.. so far he's shown us we are not even going to be as good as last year.

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                                    K Kerrigan91 wrote on last edited by
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                                    This is just an outsider's opinion, but here goes:

                                    Pitts 2x - Probably win one of these. Pittsburgh is old and not going to be as good this year.

                                    Balt 2x - Probably lose both. Sorry.

                                    Cincy 2x - Probably split. Can probably sneak a win in here.

                                    Buff - L

                                    dall - W

                                    NYG - L

                                    Wash - L

                                    Philly - W

                                    Indy - W

                                    KC - L

                                    Den - W if they don't get Manning

                                    SD - W

                                    OAK - W

                                    Philthy and Dallass are always overhyped. With a good running game you could sneak in wins there. Indy is going to be bad for at least two years. Denver is a W if they don't land Manning. SD is a surprise win, I just don't see much in them this year, they're losing a lot of pieces. Oakland isn't going to be good this year. Al Davis' last year cost his team dearly.

                                    That would put the Browns at 8-8

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                                      Pitts 2x

                                      Balt 2x

                                      Cincy 2x

                                      Buff

                                      dall

                                      NYG

                                      Wash

                                      Philly

                                      Indy

                                      KC

                                      Den

                                      SD

                                      OAK

                                      You tell me where you see 7-9 wins against that schedule.. I could see us being 2-14 very easily, this could be a very lloongg year, will make the drives to Cleveland very long this winter.

                                      BadNewsBrowns BadNewsBrownsB
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                                      BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                                      @b86b said:

                                      Pitts 2x

                                      Balt 2x

                                      Cincy 2x

                                      Buff

                                      dall

                                      NYG

                                      Wash

                                      Philly

                                      Indy

                                      KC

                                      Den

                                      SD

                                      OAK

                                      You tell me where you see 7-9 wins against that schedule.. I could see us being 2-14 very easily, this could be a very lloongg year, will make the drives to Cleveland very long this winter.

                                      2-14 sounds about right, there's only two teams there who had worse records than us last season.

                                      Anything can happen and next season is a long ways away but not a lot to be optimistic about.

                                      "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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                                        cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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                                        Have faith in divine intervetion my friends,

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                                          I've been trying to stay calm and see what moves we have in store but what the fuck. First we lose out to the insane Dan Snyder on RG3, and Holmgren tells us we couldn't have gotten him no matter what we offered? He must think we are fucking stupid. The we let Hillis walk and all he got elsewhere was a one year 3M contract, again WHAT THE FUCK, Frostee numbnuts got more $$ than that and he has 7 sacks and 68 tackles in 5 years and then we tell Frostee he is going to be our starter? (Who the fuck names their kid frostee??) Then we sign some 33 year old Eagles castoff, I'm so sick of accumulating the old players from wherever our current coach or GM used to work. We're just now getting rid of all the useless Jets players Mangini brought in. Its not like we have this massive depth at RB, Montario Hardlyplays and obiwankenobi!! Who is going to run the goddamn ball next year? We cut Pashos and Steinbach but haven't signed a goddamn offensive lineman? Where is our fucking right tackle in FA?? No sign of a veteran WR either. So we signed a couple of our own guys like Jackson and patterson which is great but on the other hand we won four games with them on the team last year so that isn't moving the team forward. We got more cap space now than we did at the beginning of the week with the cuts and players leaving. I'm starting to think the Dolans bought the Browns and we didn't hear about it. Someone said we re-signed O'neil Cousins but I haven't seen that anywhere else so it better not be true or I'm going to jump off a bridge somewhere. We don't have enough draft picks to fill all the holes on this team, what would be wrong with picking up a few good younger guys through free agency, other fucking teams do it. Im a Browns fan, Im going to continue to be a browns fan no matter what but I am so sick of this fucking shit after following this team for ever.

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