Nfl 2012 Draft -Post Combine
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I did a little research and to move up from 22 to 16 is what we would need to do to secure Richardson because if he's there at 17 the Bengals will take him... and if that were to happen we'd have fits trying to gameplan around Richardson, Green and Gresham. So I say we take him just before Cincy at 16. To make the move from 22 to 16 it'll take our #22(obviously) our third rounder and our first fourth rounder. Is this worth it? Or what about just giving them our #22 our first fourth rounder and Hardesty- I should mention that the NY Jets hold the 16th pick...
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I would give up a 3rd nd a 4th to move up for Richardson, but I doubt it will happen
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What about
1st.Rg3
2nd.Doug Martin
3rd.Ryan Broyles
4th.Chase Minnifield
Broyles could be the biggest steal in this draft due to his injury,he has great hands and is a very polished WR...Reminds me of a Marvin Harrison
Minnfield may have the chance of slipping into the 4th due to his 5'10 height at the combine and also he didnt run..I think regardless he is gonna be a good CB.
Minnfield may have the chance of slipping into the 4th due to his 5'10 height at the combine and also he didnt run..I think regardless he is gonna be a good CB.
Didn't know that- VT had him listed at 6'0" that's a big difference for a CB. Did he do a vertical or long jump? He'd better run at least a 4.5 on his Pro day to get serious consideration on day two.
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No... Chase measured at 5'10" and did 7, count 'em 7, reps.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/chase-minnifield?id=2532913
While I understand the bloodline desires, I'm not feeling Chase at all. He ain't his Daddy. If he were a Mathews, he'd be Casey, not Clay III.
This draft is seriously thin at DB. Only Claiborne, Kirkpatrick and maybe Jenkins are step in and start CB's. We need either one of them (I like Dre best) or we need a FA.
As for Richardson... no. I like the talent, but the durability question looms to large for my taste. IMO Doug Martin has Ray Rice-like potential that would make us forget Hillis.
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'Skins boards I have peeked at seem about as divided as we are over pursuing RG. The twist they add is conversation about active players to include in the trade package. Which board are you active in K-91?
As for this poll...
I traded down the 4 and up the 22. Turn the 4 into an 10-ish and the 22 into a 12-ish.
I take Ingram and Kirkpatrick... but (and I've got my flamesuit handy) I really was impressed by DeCastro.
'Skins boards I have peeked at seem about as divided as we are over pursuing RG. The twist they add is conversation about active players to include in the trade package. Which board are you active in K-91?
I'm on ExtremeSkins. By far, it's the best Skins board around. I have a different handle though over there.
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Im probably in the minority here but I dont see our secondary, cornerback in particular, as a pressing need. Its certainly not a position id like to see us use a 1st-3rd round pick on, at least not this year. IMO we have a few young players in skrine and Patterson who can potentially turn out to be pretty good ball players for us. If they have a good camp and preseason, along with getting T.J. back healthy and haden progressing I think our secondary being pretty solid. Also we still have brown. Never know he might just end up having a good year. I just dont think were in that bad of shape back there this year.
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I dont think we are going to get RG3 but we need playmakers and we can't afford to miss. The fan base needs to be re-energized. At this point I think the Browns will have to draft Trent Richardson.
I think he will be WAY BETTER than Mark Ingram was last year. Check out this article and videos and tell me what you think - http://rosterwatch.com/?p=2356
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QB-Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace
RB-Trent Richardson/Hardesty/Jackson
FB-Marecic/Williams
TE-Watson/Moore/Cameron/Smith
WR-Hill/Little/McNutt/Momass/Cribbs
LT-Thomas
LG-Pinkston
C-Mack
RG-Lavaman
RT-?
DE-Curry
DT-Rubin
DT-Taylor
DE-Sheard
OLB-Gocong
ILB-Jackson
OLB-Burfict
CB-Haden
CB-Minnifield
CB-Skrine/Patterson
SS-Brown/Hagg/Young
FS-Ward
P-Hodges
K-Dawson
Backup Waterboy-Goolie
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QB-Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace
RB-Trent Richardson/Hardesty/Jackson
FB-Marecic/Williams
TE-Watson/Moore/Cameron/Smith
WR-Hill/Little/McNutt/Momass/Cribbs
LT-Thomas
LG-Pinkston
C-Mack
RG-Lavaman
RT-?
DE-Curry
DT-Rubin
DT-Taylor
DE-Sheard
OLB-Gocong
ILB-Jackson
OLB-Burfict
CB-Haden
CB-Minnifield
CB-Skrine/Patterson
SS-Brown/Hagg/Young
FS-Ward
P-Hodges
K-Dawson
Backup Waterboy-Goolie
QB-Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace
RB-Trent Richardson/Hardesty/Jackson
FB-Marecic/Williams
TE-Watson/Moore/Cameron/Smith
WR-Hill/Little/McNutt/Momass/Cribbs
LT-Thomas
LG-Pinkston
C-Mack
RG-Lavaman
RT-?
DE-Curry
DT-Rubin
DT-Taylor
DE-Sheard
OLB-Gocong
ILB-Jackson
OLB-Burfict
CB-Haden
CB-Minnifield
CB-Skrine/Patterson
SS-Brown/Hagg/Young
FS-Ward
P-Hodges
K-Dawson
Backup Waterboy-Goolie
Dude you seriously have a mega sized mancrush on minnifield dont ya?
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Walter Football has Chase going in the low 80s to the Titan... Oh, but I'm sure you love to watch Brown fall down on Man Coverage every other play, right?
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Walter Football has Chase going in the low 80s to the Titan... Oh, but I'm sure you love to watch Brown fall down on Man Coverage every other play, right?
Walter Football has Chase going in the low 80s to the Titan... Oh, but I'm sure you love to watch Brown fall down on Man Coverage every other play, right?
What gives you that impression? I havent said anything about Brown. IMO I personally think patterson is going to have a breakout year.
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Apparently this CB is a lock to make the HOF
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In the 3rd i wouldnt mind if we picked any of these players.....
LB- Tank carder, Mychal kendricks
WR- Marvin Mcnutt, Chris Givens 4.41 40 time
QB- Brandon Weeden, would be nice to reunite him with Blackmon
RB- Lemicheal james, 4.37 40 time, career 6.6 ypc
Oh and i wouldnt mind picking up Chase Minnifield either.
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Im seriously not trying to dog Chase here, i like the kid. The way you annoint him as a lockdown corner just makes me scratch my head. If hes such a lockdown C.B. why is it hes Projected to go to us in the 4th at pick 101? Walter has him as only the 9th best C.B.
I really wasnt tryin to get into a back in forth deal with you homie, just couldnt help but notice that in most of your posts it seems like hes a must have for us.
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Doug Martin did play tough all year, he looks to be an every down back. I hope we get him in the 2nd round. Also we need to get Blackmon in the 1st and Broyles in the 3rd. At 22 snag Hightower if he is there. Go O line later in the 3rd and maybe a qb in the 5th 6th range.
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Im seriously not trying to dog Chase here, i like the kid. The way you annoint him as a lockdown corner just makes me scratch my head. If hes such a lockdown C.B. why is it hes Projected to go to us in the 4th at pick 101? Walter has him as only the 9th best C.B.
I really wasnt tryin to get into a back in forth deal with you homie, just couldnt help but notice that in most of your posts it seems like hes a must have for us.
Im seriously not trying to dog Chase here, i like the kid. The way you annoint him as a lockdown corner just makes me scratch my head. If hes such a lockdown C.B. why is it hes Projected to go to us in the 4th at pick 101? Walter has him as only the 9th best C.B.
I really wasnt tryin to get into a back in forth deal with you homie, just couldnt help but notice that in most of your posts it seems like hes a must have for us.
whoa whoa whoa there bro....
i wouldn't bring in facts...theyre irrelevant to PG's wet dreams. chase will be a HOFer because his pappy was good....
much the same way TR can take an entire team on his back straight to the superbowl.
im not actually sure which football this kid watches....lol
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Im seriously not trying to dog Chase here, i like the kid. The way you annoint him as a lockdown corner just makes me scratch my head. If hes such a lockdown C.B. why is it hes Projected to go to us in the 4th at pick 101? Walter has him as only the 9th best C.B.
I really wasnt tryin to get into a back in forth deal with you homie, just couldnt help but notice that in most of your posts it seems like hes a must have for us.
Im seriously not trying to dog Chase here, i like the kid. The way you annoint him as a lockdown corner just makes me scratch my head. If hes such a lockdown C.B. why is it hes Projected to go to us in the 4th at pick 101? Walter has him as only the 9th best C.B.
I really wasnt tryin to get into a back in forth deal with you homie, just couldnt help but notice that in most of your posts it seems like hes a must have for us.
I know a lot of people have something to say about Chase not being his father or whatever but I'm on the other side of the fence in that I believe that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Frank Minnifield and Hanford Dixon were great... but that was before my time, I'd like to see it for myself with Minnifield and Haden reinvigorating the DawgPound. I found this on Frank Minnifield's Wiki:
Frank Minnifield (born January 1, 1960, Lexington, Kentucky) is a former American football player who played defensive back for the Cleveland Browns from 1984-92.
Minnifield attended Henry Clay High School in Lexington. Considered too small for college football at just 5'9" and 140 pounds, he walked on to the football team at the University of Louisville, earning a scholarship spot for his final three years. As a junior in 1981, he led the nation in average yards per kickoff return (30.4) and led his team in punt returns.
After graduation in 1982, Minnifield joined the Chicago Blitz (later the Arizona Wranglers) of the USFL. He successfully sued the Wranglers for the right to move to the NFL, and signed as a free agent with the Browns in 1984. Minnifield became a fixture at cornerback for Cleveland and was named to the Pro Bowl four straight years from 1986-89. Known for his aggressive bump-and-run coverage and hard hitting style, he was named to the NFL 1980s All-Decade Team as selected by voters of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Perhaps more importantly to Cleveland fans, he and fellow cornerback Hanford Dixon originated and named the Dawg Pound cheering section at Cleveland Stadium.
Upon retirement, Minnifield founded Minnifield All-Pro Homes, a homebuilding company in Lexington. In 1993, he became the first African American executive named to the Lexington Chamber of Commerce Board, and as of 2000, he was the only African American home builder in Lexington.
Minnifield's son Chase is a junior cornerback for the University of Virginia Cavaliers. Frank Minnifield was elected Chairman of the University of Louisville Trustees on September the 15th 2011
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I know that Chase is smaller but some believe that he's going to be every bit as good if not better than his dad was, I happen to be in that group. With Haden, Minnifield, Skrine and Patterson I believe that we'd have a Great Young Secondary. He's only gonna cost us a third but the fact that his potential is so high and that his dad started the DawgPound... to me it's worth a shot in the third round. The DawgPound would go crazy over this pick... or at least they should. It's clearly not the same as it was before the move but the DP has given so much I think that the Browns FO need to give back and take Chase for us. JMHO.
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