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  • Thanks guys, I appreciate your feedback and responses. It helps to get a better picture of what the Browns community thinks we should do... and how we should do it.

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-

  • What about

    1st.Rg3

    2nd.Doug Martin

    3rd.Ryan Broyles

    4th.Chase Minnifield

    Broyles could be the biggest steal in this draft due to his injury,he has great hands and is a very polished WR...Reminds me of a Marvin Harrison

    Minnfield may have the chance of slipping into the 4th due to his 5'10 height at the combine and also he didnt run..I think regardless he is gonna be a good CB.

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  • Okay, here's to changing my mind again! LOL- Good Lord someone make up my mind for me!

    Two years ago I knew I wanted Eric Berry or Suh... didn't get either...

    Last year I KNEW I wanted Patrick Peterson or A.J. Green... same story...

    This year I just cannot decide on who or what we should do...

    I've heard multiple times that Justin Blackmon is a number 1 legitimate WR- we need that...

    I've heard Morris Claiborn is the best pure cover corner in a long time- we need that...

    I've heard Trent Richardson is the best RB prospect since AP- and if Hillis goes secret agent- we need that...

    I've heard 1.4 million times that RG3 is gonna be an excellent QB at the next level- but I'm not not sure we don't already have that in Colt McCoy.

    So I'm going to change my tune a little bit and state that we need to do this...

    #4- Take Justin Blackmon to pair up with Greg Little and we'll have a potent #1 and #2 @ WR and more than serviceable slot receivers in Cribbs and Norwood- add Momass or Mitchell(post finger incident) and we've got a WR Group capable of being effective for Colt to get the pass going.

    #22- This is where it gets tricky- Do we go best OT available and help protect Colt so he has time to find the open WRs that we'll have flying around? OR- do we find a way to trade back down and pick up Trent Richardson? I think that would give our offense a major jolt- adding Blackmon AND Richardson to our offense would increase our point production by 17 a game at least, I'm giving Trent a score on the ground and Blackmon one through the air... with increase offensive firepower and the ability to stay on the field and keep our D fresh I'm giving the D an extra turnover with good field position that translates to at minimum a FG.

    -Second Round-

    I'm thinking we have to take someone here that makes the Offense make a tough decision on who to throw against on our D. It's a given that whoever is opposite Haden is gonna get picked on, so I'm campaigning for Chase Minnifield in this spot. A one/two CB Duo that would reignite the DawgPound of yesteryear and give our secondary a boost. Move Sheldon back to Free Safety to team up with T.J. Ward and put Patterson and Skrine in the nickel and dime packages and we've got ourselves a lockdown secondary.

    *** This is as far as I'm willing to look as of right now because of the proposed trade down to pick up Trent Richardson I'm unsure what we'll have left and who might still be available. Just looking at what we could have in these three players though is enough to get me excited about the direction that our franchise is headed in...

    1- Blackmon

    2- Richardson

    3- Minnifield

    - Get it done -

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-

  • I did a little research and to move up from 22 to 16 is what we would need to do to secure Richardson because if he's there at 17 the Bengals will take him... and if that were to happen we'd have fits trying to gameplan around Richardson, Green and Gresham. So I say we take him just before Cincy at 16. To make the move from 22 to 16 it'll take our #22(obviously) our third rounder and our first fourth rounder. Is this worth it? Or what about just giving them our #22 our first fourth rounder and Hardesty- I should mention that the NY Jets hold the 16th pick...

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-

  • I would give up a 3rd nd a 4th to move up for Richardson, but I doubt it will happen

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • N Nw220

    What about

    1st.Rg3

    2nd.Doug Martin

    3rd.Ryan Broyles

    4th.Chase Minnifield

    Broyles could be the biggest steal in this draft due to his injury,he has great hands and is a very polished WR...Reminds me of a Marvin Harrison

    Minnfield may have the chance of slipping into the 4th due to his 5'10 height at the combine and also he didnt run..I think regardless he is gonna be a good CB.

    @nw220 said:

    Minnfield may have the chance of slipping into the 4th due to his 5'10 height at the combine and also he didnt run..I think regardless he is gonna be a good CB.

    Didn't know that- VT had him listed at 6'0" that's a big difference for a CB. Did he do a vertical or long jump? He'd better run at least a 4.5 on his Pro day to get serious consideration on day two.

  • No... Chase measured at 5'10" and did 7, count 'em 7, reps.

    http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/chase-minnifield?id=2532913

    While I understand the bloodline desires, I'm not feeling Chase at all. He ain't his Daddy. If he were a Mathews, he'd be Casey, not Clay III.

    This draft is seriously thin at DB. Only Claiborne, Kirkpatrick and maybe Jenkins are step in and start CB's. We need either one of them (I like Dre best) or we need a FA.

    As for Richardson... no. I like the talent, but the durability question looms to large for my taste. IMO Doug Martin has Ray Rice-like potential that would make us forget Hillis.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    'Skins boards I have peeked at seem about as divided as we are over pursuing RG. The twist they add is conversation about active players to include in the trade package. Which board are you active in K-91?

    As for this poll...

    I traded down the 4 and up the 22. Turn the 4 into an 10-ish and the 22 into a 12-ish.

    I take Ingram and Kirkpatrick... but (and I've got my flamesuit handy) I really was impressed by DeCastro.

    @tour2ma said:

    'Skins boards I have peeked at seem about as divided as we are over pursuing RG. The twist they add is conversation about active players to include in the trade package. Which board are you active in K-91?

    I'm on ExtremeSkins. By far, it's the best Skins board around. I have a different handle though over there.

  • Im probably in the minority here but I dont see our secondary, cornerback in particular, as a pressing need. Its certainly not a position id like to see us use a 1st-3rd round pick on, at least not this year. IMO we have a few young players in skrine and Patterson who can potentially turn out to be pretty good ball players for us. If they have a good camp and preseason, along with getting T.J. back healthy and haden progressing I think our secondary being pretty solid. Also we still have brown. Never know he might just end up having a good year. I just dont think were in that bad of shape back there this year.

    !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!

  • I dont think we are going to get RG3 but we need playmakers and we can't afford to miss. The fan base needs to be re-energized. At this point I think the Browns will have to draft Trent Richardson.

    I think he will be WAY BETTER than Mark Ingram was last year. Check out this article and videos and tell me what you think - http://rosterwatch.com/?p=2356

  • Round 1

    #04-Trent Richardson

    #22-Stephen Hill/Kendall Wright

    Round 2

    #37-Vinny Curry/Kevin Zeitler

    Round 3

    #68-Chase Minnifield

    Round 4

    #100-Vontaze Burfict

    #118-Marvin McNutt/Russel Wilson

    This^^^!

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-

  • QB-Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace

    RB-Trent Richardson/Hardesty/Jackson

    FB-Marecic/Williams

    TE-Watson/Moore/Cameron/Smith

    WR-Hill/Little/McNutt/Momass/Cribbs

    LT-Thomas

    LG-Pinkston

    C-Mack

    RG-Lavaman

    RT-?

    DE-Curry

    DT-Rubin

    DT-Taylor

    DE-Sheard

    OLB-Gocong

    ILB-Jackson

    OLB-Burfict

    CB-Haden

    CB-Minnifield

    CB-Skrine/Patterson

    SS-Brown/Hagg/Young

    FS-Ward

    P-Hodges

    K-Dawson

    Backup Waterboy-Goolie

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    QB-Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace

    RB-Trent Richardson/Hardesty/Jackson

    FB-Marecic/Williams

    TE-Watson/Moore/Cameron/Smith

    WR-Hill/Little/McNutt/Momass/Cribbs

    LT-Thomas

    LG-Pinkston

    C-Mack

    RG-Lavaman

    RT-?

    DE-Curry

    DT-Rubin

    DT-Taylor

    DE-Sheard

    OLB-Gocong

    ILB-Jackson

    OLB-Burfict

    CB-Haden

    CB-Minnifield

    CB-Skrine/Patterson

    SS-Brown/Hagg/Young

    FS-Ward

    P-Hodges

    K-Dawson

    Backup Waterboy-Goolie

    @poeticg said:

    QB-Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace

    RB-Trent Richardson/Hardesty/Jackson

    FB-Marecic/Williams

    TE-Watson/Moore/Cameron/Smith

    WR-Hill/Little/McNutt/Momass/Cribbs

    LT-Thomas

    LG-Pinkston

    C-Mack

    RG-Lavaman

    RT-?

    DE-Curry

    DT-Rubin

    DT-Taylor

    DE-Sheard

    OLB-Gocong

    ILB-Jackson

    OLB-Burfict

    CB-Haden

    CB-Minnifield

    CB-Skrine/Patterson

    SS-Brown/Hagg/Young

    FS-Ward

    P-Hodges

    K-Dawson

    Backup Waterboy-Goolie

    Dude you seriously have a mega sized mancrush on minnifield dont ya?

    !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!

  • What's not to like about a shutdown corner? He wants to take Cleveland to the superbowl... what's your problem with that?

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-

  • Walter Football has Chase going in the low 80s to the Titan... Oh, but I'm sure you love to watch Brown fall down on Man Coverage every other play, right?

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    Walter Football has Chase going in the low 80s to the Titan... Oh, but I'm sure you love to watch Brown fall down on Man Coverage every other play, right?

    @poeticg said:

    Walter Football has Chase going in the low 80s to the Titan... Oh, but I'm sure you love to watch Brown fall down on Man Coverage every other play, right?

    What gives you that impression? I havent said anything about Brown. IMO I personally think patterson is going to have a breakout year.

    !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!

  • Okay Great! We'll go into the season with Haden... and hope that Patterson turns into Revis next season.

    Who would you like to take in the third if not Chase?

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-

  • Apparently this CB is a lock to make the HOF

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • In the 3rd i wouldnt mind if we picked any of these players.....

    LB- Tank carder, Mychal kendricks

    WR- Marvin Mcnutt, Chris Givens 4.41 40 time

    QB- Brandon Weeden, would be nice to reunite him with Blackmon

    RB- Lemicheal james, 4.37 40 time, career 6.6 ypc

    Oh and i wouldnt mind picking up Chase Minnifield either.

    !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!

  • Im seriously not trying to dog Chase here, i like the kid. The way you annoint him as a lockdown corner just makes me scratch my head. If hes such a lockdown C.B. why is it hes Projected to go to us in the 4th at pick 101? Walter has him as only the 9th best C.B.

    I really wasnt tryin to get into a back in forth deal with you homie, just couldnt help but notice that in most of your posts it seems like hes a must have for us.

    !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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