Nfl 2012 Draft -Post Combine
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'Skins boards I have peeked at seem about as divided as we are over pursuing RG. The twist they add is conversation about active players to include in the trade package. Which board are you active in K-91?
As for this poll...
I traded down the 4 and up the 22. Turn the 4 into an 10-ish and the 22 into a 12-ish.
I take Ingram and Kirkpatrick... but (and I've got my flamesuit handy) I really was impressed by DeCastro.
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Who the heck voted to take Kahlil? I mean he would offer great depth behind Joe Thomas, I cannot figure that one out. I assume someone wants him to play RT which I guess would work but he would want LT money once his contract was up, so after 4/5 yrs he would be gone in FA.
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Got the same problem over on the Skins boards. Lots of ghost voters who don't want to leave a response. Annoying as hell.
Curious to hear how much the voting is over there about trading up for Griffin.
Interesting stuff on ESPN Scott Van Pelt this afternoon. Your beat writer echoed your take- Shanahan will be under pressure to start winning now- something that may or may not happen if you sell the farm to get RGIII. Personally- even with Griffin- I don't see the 'Skins with enough talent to seriously contend with the Packers, 49ers, or Saints. You're sure not going to get any new blood in there either if you give away 4-5 picks- and bunch of them high ones.
& FWIW PG- I'm for moving up to get Griffin- within reason. We won't have a #22 in that scenario- if we did I'd take Mike Adams. Real life, we'll take a wr in the second round and a RT in the third.
PS- the same ESPN afternoon take was Burfict may have blown himself into the third day of the draft running that 5.0+ 40. There's offensive and defensive linemen that can break 5 seconds. Add in his on field temper and off field issues and word is a bunch of teams have totally taken him off their boards.
PS- the same ESPN afternoon take was Burfict may have blown himself into the third day of the draft running that 5.0+ 40. There's offensive and defensive linemen that can break 5 seconds. Add in his on field temper and off field issues and word is a bunch of teams have totally taken him off their boards.
Man watchin burfict on the field it blows my mind that his 40 time was that bad. Had to be some kinda fluke.
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PS- the same ESPN afternoon take was Burfict may have blown himself into the third day of the draft running that 5.0+ 40. There's offensive and defensive linemen that can break 5 seconds. Add in his on field temper and off field issues and word is a bunch of teams have totally taken him off their boards.
Man watchin burfict on the field it blows my mind that his 40 time was that bad. Had to be some kinda fluke.
Man watchin burfict on the field it blows my mind that his 40 time was that bad. Had to be some kinda fluke.
He's a lazy piece of crap, that's why it wasn't a fluke. He just sucks and doesn't care. Great natural talent, but he's such a bitch about it.
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He's a lazy piece of crap, that's why it wasn't a fluke. He just sucks and doesn't care. Great natural talent, but he's such a bitch about it.
I get what your sayin, it just seemed the way he was flys around hed have better times, hopefully this means the browns wont pick him ever
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He's a lazy piece of crap, that's why it wasn't a fluke. He just sucks and doesn't care. Great natural talent, but he's such a bitch about it.
I get what your sayin, it just seemed the way he was flys around hed have better times, hopefully this means the browns wont pick him ever
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I chose to trade up to take RGIII. I then voted on #4 and #22 assuming we didn't trade up and selected Blackmon and Other. I don't like any of the options that were given at 22. I think if at all possible that the Browns trade up and don't have to give up the 22 then Wright would be a great choice but I can't see that happening.
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What about
1st.Rg3
2nd.Doug Martin
3rd.Ryan Broyles
4th.Chase Minnifield
Broyles could be the biggest steal in this draft due to his injury,he has great hands and is a very polished WR...Reminds me of a Marvin Harrison
Minnfield may have the chance of slipping into the 4th due to his 5'10 height at the combine and also he didnt run..I think regardless he is gonna be a good CB.
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Okay, here's to changing my mind again! LOL- Good Lord someone make up my mind for me!
Two years ago I knew I wanted Eric Berry or Suh... didn't get either...
Last year I KNEW I wanted Patrick Peterson or A.J. Green... same story...
This year I just cannot decide on who or what we should do...
I've heard multiple times that Justin Blackmon is a number 1 legitimate WR- we need that...
I've heard Morris Claiborn is the best pure cover corner in a long time- we need that...
I've heard Trent Richardson is the best RB prospect since AP- and if Hillis goes secret agent- we need that...
I've heard 1.4 million times that RG3 is gonna be an excellent QB at the next level- but I'm not not sure we don't already have that in Colt McCoy.
So I'm going to change my tune a little bit and state that we need to do this...
#4- Take Justin Blackmon to pair up with Greg Little and we'll have a potent #1 and #2 @ WR and more than serviceable slot receivers in Cribbs and Norwood- add Momass or Mitchell(post finger incident) and we've got a WR Group capable of being effective for Colt to get the pass going.
#22- This is where it gets tricky- Do we go best OT available and help protect Colt so he has time to find the open WRs that we'll have flying around? OR- do we find a way to trade back down and pick up Trent Richardson? I think that would give our offense a major jolt- adding Blackmon AND Richardson to our offense would increase our point production by 17 a game at least, I'm giving Trent a score on the ground and Blackmon one through the air... with increase offensive firepower and the ability to stay on the field and keep our D fresh I'm giving the D an extra turnover with good field position that translates to at minimum a FG.
-Second Round-
I'm thinking we have to take someone here that makes the Offense make a tough decision on who to throw against on our D. It's a given that whoever is opposite Haden is gonna get picked on, so I'm campaigning for Chase Minnifield in this spot. A one/two CB Duo that would reignite the DawgPound of yesteryear and give our secondary a boost. Move Sheldon back to Free Safety to team up with T.J. Ward and put Patterson and Skrine in the nickel and dime packages and we've got ourselves a lockdown secondary.
*** This is as far as I'm willing to look as of right now because of the proposed trade down to pick up Trent Richardson I'm unsure what we'll have left and who might still be available. Just looking at what we could have in these three players though is enough to get me excited about the direction that our franchise is headed in...
1- Blackmon
2- Richardson
3- Minnifield
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I did a little research and to move up from 22 to 16 is what we would need to do to secure Richardson because if he's there at 17 the Bengals will take him... and if that were to happen we'd have fits trying to gameplan around Richardson, Green and Gresham. So I say we take him just before Cincy at 16. To make the move from 22 to 16 it'll take our #22(obviously) our third rounder and our first fourth rounder. Is this worth it? Or what about just giving them our #22 our first fourth rounder and Hardesty- I should mention that the NY Jets hold the 16th pick...
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I would give up a 3rd nd a 4th to move up for Richardson, but I doubt it will happen
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What about
1st.Rg3
2nd.Doug Martin
3rd.Ryan Broyles
4th.Chase Minnifield
Broyles could be the biggest steal in this draft due to his injury,he has great hands and is a very polished WR...Reminds me of a Marvin Harrison
Minnfield may have the chance of slipping into the 4th due to his 5'10 height at the combine and also he didnt run..I think regardless he is gonna be a good CB.
Minnfield may have the chance of slipping into the 4th due to his 5'10 height at the combine and also he didnt run..I think regardless he is gonna be a good CB.
Didn't know that- VT had him listed at 6'0" that's a big difference for a CB. Did he do a vertical or long jump? He'd better run at least a 4.5 on his Pro day to get serious consideration on day two.
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No... Chase measured at 5'10" and did 7, count 'em 7, reps.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/chase-minnifield?id=2532913
While I understand the bloodline desires, I'm not feeling Chase at all. He ain't his Daddy. If he were a Mathews, he'd be Casey, not Clay III.
This draft is seriously thin at DB. Only Claiborne, Kirkpatrick and maybe Jenkins are step in and start CB's. We need either one of them (I like Dre best) or we need a FA.
As for Richardson... no. I like the talent, but the durability question looms to large for my taste. IMO Doug Martin has Ray Rice-like potential that would make us forget Hillis.
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'Skins boards I have peeked at seem about as divided as we are over pursuing RG. The twist they add is conversation about active players to include in the trade package. Which board are you active in K-91?
As for this poll...
I traded down the 4 and up the 22. Turn the 4 into an 10-ish and the 22 into a 12-ish.
I take Ingram and Kirkpatrick... but (and I've got my flamesuit handy) I really was impressed by DeCastro.
'Skins boards I have peeked at seem about as divided as we are over pursuing RG. The twist they add is conversation about active players to include in the trade package. Which board are you active in K-91?
I'm on ExtremeSkins. By far, it's the best Skins board around. I have a different handle though over there.
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Im probably in the minority here but I dont see our secondary, cornerback in particular, as a pressing need. Its certainly not a position id like to see us use a 1st-3rd round pick on, at least not this year. IMO we have a few young players in skrine and Patterson who can potentially turn out to be pretty good ball players for us. If they have a good camp and preseason, along with getting T.J. back healthy and haden progressing I think our secondary being pretty solid. Also we still have brown. Never know he might just end up having a good year. I just dont think were in that bad of shape back there this year.
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I dont think we are going to get RG3 but we need playmakers and we can't afford to miss. The fan base needs to be re-energized. At this point I think the Browns will have to draft Trent Richardson.
I think he will be WAY BETTER than Mark Ingram was last year. Check out this article and videos and tell me what you think - http://rosterwatch.com/?p=2356
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QB-Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace
RB-Trent Richardson/Hardesty/Jackson
FB-Marecic/Williams
TE-Watson/Moore/Cameron/Smith
WR-Hill/Little/McNutt/Momass/Cribbs
LT-Thomas
LG-Pinkston
C-Mack
RG-Lavaman
RT-?
DE-Curry
DT-Rubin
DT-Taylor
DE-Sheard
OLB-Gocong
ILB-Jackson
OLB-Burfict
CB-Haden
CB-Minnifield
CB-Skrine/Patterson
SS-Brown/Hagg/Young
FS-Ward
P-Hodges
K-Dawson
Backup Waterboy-Goolie
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QB-Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace
RB-Trent Richardson/Hardesty/Jackson
FB-Marecic/Williams
TE-Watson/Moore/Cameron/Smith
WR-Hill/Little/McNutt/Momass/Cribbs
LT-Thomas
LG-Pinkston
C-Mack
RG-Lavaman
RT-?
DE-Curry
DT-Rubin
DT-Taylor
DE-Sheard
OLB-Gocong
ILB-Jackson
OLB-Burfict
CB-Haden
CB-Minnifield
CB-Skrine/Patterson
SS-Brown/Hagg/Young
FS-Ward
P-Hodges
K-Dawson
Backup Waterboy-Goolie
QB-Colt McCoy/Seneca Wallace
RB-Trent Richardson/Hardesty/Jackson
FB-Marecic/Williams
TE-Watson/Moore/Cameron/Smith
WR-Hill/Little/McNutt/Momass/Cribbs
LT-Thomas
LG-Pinkston
C-Mack
RG-Lavaman
RT-?
DE-Curry
DT-Rubin
DT-Taylor
DE-Sheard
OLB-Gocong
ILB-Jackson
OLB-Burfict
CB-Haden
CB-Minnifield
CB-Skrine/Patterson
SS-Brown/Hagg/Young
FS-Ward
P-Hodges
K-Dawson
Backup Waterboy-Goolie
Dude you seriously have a mega sized mancrush on minnifield dont ya?
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