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  • And the thing with liberal and conservative talk radio is interesting.

    It's the liberals, who are usually a lot funnier who are either nasty enough to make limbaugh seem like mister rogers or angry and sullen when they have more than 30 minutes to kill.

    Plus you guys had springer!

    WSS

  • @heckofajobbrownie said:

    Problem is, conservative comedy is like left-wing talk radio: it doesn't really work.

    That certainly seems true.

    But that doesn't explain or excuse the imbalance of outrage.

    I mean come on if Newt had said we needed a white first lady......

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    That certainly seems true.

    But that doesn't explain or excuse the imbalance of outrage.

    I mean come on if Newt had said we needed a white first lady......

    WSS

    Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

    For another thing, for people to laugh when you do racial humor they have to have a sense that you don't actually resent the race of the people you're poking fun of. Newt, of the "food stamp president" and "I don't want to give black people handouts" mold, wouldn't be able to tell those jokes effectively.

    People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

  • Oh, Jeez...

    Robert DeNiro has apologized for his joke at an Obama fundraiser Monday night about America’s not being ready for a “white first lady.” In a statement to the Associated Press, DeNiro insisted that while his remarks were “spoken in jest,” he didn’t mean to offend anyone, particularly the first lady, whose spokeswoman called the joke “inappropriate.”

  • @westside-steve said:

    That certainly seems true.

    But that doesn't explain or excuse the imbalance of outrage.

    I mean come on if Newt had said we needed a white first lady......

    WSS

    Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

    For another thing, for people to laugh when you do racial humor they have to have a sense that you don't actually resent the race of the people you're poking fun of. Newt, of the "food stamp president" and "I don't want to give black people handouts" mold, wouldn't be able to tell those jokes effectively.

    People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

    People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

    Now that's funny!

    WSS

  • @westside-steve said:

    That certainly seems true.

    But that doesn't explain or excuse the imbalance of outrage.

    I mean come on if Newt had said we needed a white first lady......

    WSS

    Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

    For another thing, for people to laugh when you do racial humor they have to have a sense that you don't actually resent the race of the people you're poking fun of. Newt, of the "food stamp president" and "I don't want to give black people handouts" mold, wouldn't be able to tell those jokes effectively.

    People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

    For another thing, for people to laugh when you do racial humor they have to have a sense that you don't actually resent the race of the people you're poking fun of. Newt, of the "food stamp president" and "I don't want to give black people handouts" mold, wouldn't be able to tell those jokes effectively.

    People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

    It's not funny. It's a double standard. Bad job out of deniro.

  • @heckofajobbrownie said:

    Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

    People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

    Now that's funny!

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Now that's funny!

    WSS

    I tend to think I know a little bit more about this than you do, my friend.

    You can't poke fun at race if people think you're doing it from a bad place, or if the punchline touches on racist attitudes. It's often a narrow line. But Newt Gingrich saying, "Now do you really think our country is ready for another black first lady? Too soon, right?" is not even close to being a joke, and it would never get a laugh. People would be stunned. You'd hear crickets. And then you'd make news for saying something peculiar.

    Because it's not the same joke. It's not the reverse just because you put the same words in someone else's mouth. Everything is different but the words. The premise changes. It's no longer referencing a cultural meme. Everything falls apart.

    Try this same theory, but with an even more obvious example:

    Chris Rock: "I love black people, but I hate niggers."

    Newt Gingrich: "I love black people, but I hate niggers."

    ...Get my drift? It matters who is telling the joke, and why they're telling it, and what the reference is.

  • "Can we please stop the fake 'offended' routine? Pls explain what was allegedly offensive about De Niro's joke." - Ann Coulter

  • "Can we please stop the fake 'offended' routine? Pls explain what was allegedly offensive about De Niro's joke." - Ann Coulter

    @heckofajobbrownie said:

    "Can we please stop the fake 'offended' routine? Pls explain what was allegedly offensive about De Niro's joke." - Ann Coulter

    She's right.

    As usual.

    WSS

  • It matters who the libs LIKE, and who they don't like.

    If they like somebody's emotional political bents, why, the excuses are eternal.

    If they don't like sombody's stances on issues, they hate the exact same statement.

    It's all about how Heck/woodpecker/ etc etc etc FEEL at the time, and how they FEEL about the person speaking.

  • It matters who the libs LIKE, and who they don't like.

    If they like somebody's emotional political bents, why, the excuses are eternal.

    If they don't like sombody's stances on issues, they hate the exact same statement.

    It's all about how Heck/woodpecker/ etc etc etc FEEL at the time, and how they FEEL about the person speaking.

    @calfoxwc said:

    It matters who the libs LIKE, and who they don't like.

    If they like somebody's emotional political bents, why, the excuses are eternal.

    If they don't like sombody's stances on issues, they hate the exact same statement.

    It's all about how Heck/woodpecker/ etc etc etc FEEL at the time, and how they FEEL about the person speaking.

    Holy shit you moron

    How many times do we have to go over this?

    I don't "feel" how I choose things, I use common sense, facts, science, etc. I'm a goddamn engineer... you think it get by in class by picking the answer that feels best?

    and no, I'm not in an "emotion outburst" or w/e the hell you are going to call this. I am going off of facts, common sense, and your favorite, history, and they are all telling me you are a closed minded old man that refuses to listen to anyone that disagrees with him

  • Found a video of cal