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  • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    Exactly...

    I mean, the left can say this hurtful hurtful rhetoric but as soon as Bill OReilly calls Obama a N***** the left is up in arms...

    Not fair

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      Exactly...

      I mean, the left can say this hurtful hurtful rhetoric but as soon as Bill OReilly calls Obama a N***** the left is up in arms...

      Not fair

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      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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      @mld-woody said:

      Exactly...

      I mean, the left can say this hurtful hurtful rhetoric but as soon as Bill OReilly calls Obama a N***** the left is up in arms...

      Not fair

      Yep. That happens all the time Wody.

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        I meant to say "if"

        then the joke would have made more sense

        (the joke is about some of you treating situations that aren't similar as the same)

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

          I meant to say "if"

          then the joke would have made more sense

          (the joke is about some of you treating situations that aren't similar as the same)

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          @mld-woody said:

          I meant to say "if"

          then the joke would have made more sense

          (the joke is about some of you treating situations that aren't similar as the same)

          Yeah?

          Fair enough.

          Let's have a few examples.

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            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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            This

            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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              This

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              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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              @mld-woody said:

              This

              So the fictitious o'reilly ref is all you have?

              Good work woody!

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                Lol no, the thread topic

                gimme a break I'm in class

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  Problem is, conservative comedy is like left-wing talk radio: it doesn't really work.

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                    Problem is, conservative comedy is like left-wing talk radio: it doesn't really work.

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                    @heckofajobbrownie said:

                    Problem is, conservative comedy is like left-wing talk radio: it doesn't really work.

                    That certainly seems true.

                    But that doesn't explain or excuse the imbalance of outrage.

                    I mean come on if Newt had said we needed a white first lady......

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                      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                      And the thing with liberal and conservative talk radio is interesting.

                      It's the liberals, who are usually a lot funnier who are either nasty enough to make limbaugh seem like mister rogers or angry and sullen when they have more than 30 minutes to kill.

                      Plus you guys had springer!

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                        @heckofajobbrownie said:

                        Problem is, conservative comedy is like left-wing talk radio: it doesn't really work.

                        That certainly seems true.

                        But that doesn't explain or excuse the imbalance of outrage.

                        I mean come on if Newt had said we needed a white first lady......

                        WSS

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                        H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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                        @westside-steve said:

                        That certainly seems true.

                        But that doesn't explain or excuse the imbalance of outrage.

                        I mean come on if Newt had said we needed a white first lady......

                        WSS

                        Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

                        For another thing, for people to laugh when you do racial humor they have to have a sense that you don't actually resent the race of the people you're poking fun of. Newt, of the "food stamp president" and "I don't want to give black people handouts" mold, wouldn't be able to tell those jokes effectively.

                        People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

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                          H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                          Oh, Jeez...

                          Robert DeNiro has apologized for his joke at an Obama fundraiser Monday night about America’s not being ready for a “white first lady.” In a statement to the Associated Press, DeNiro insisted that while his remarks were “spoken in jest,” he didn’t mean to offend anyone, particularly the first lady, whose spokeswoman called the joke “inappropriate.”

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            That certainly seems true.

                            But that doesn't explain or excuse the imbalance of outrage.

                            I mean come on if Newt had said we needed a white first lady......

                            WSS

                            Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

                            For another thing, for people to laugh when you do racial humor they have to have a sense that you don't actually resent the race of the people you're poking fun of. Newt, of the "food stamp president" and "I don't want to give black people handouts" mold, wouldn't be able to tell those jokes effectively.

                            People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

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                            @heckofajobbrownie said:

                            Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

                            People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

                            Now that's funny!

                            WSS

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                              @westside-steve said:

                              That certainly seems true.

                              But that doesn't explain or excuse the imbalance of outrage.

                              I mean come on if Newt had said we needed a white first lady......

                              WSS

                              Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

                              For another thing, for people to laugh when you do racial humor they have to have a sense that you don't actually resent the race of the people you're poking fun of. Newt, of the "food stamp president" and "I don't want to give black people handouts" mold, wouldn't be able to tell those jokes effectively.

                              People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

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                              @heckofajobbrownie said:

                              Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

                              For another thing, for people to laugh when you do racial humor they have to have a sense that you don't actually resent the race of the people you're poking fun of. Newt, of the "food stamp president" and "I don't want to give black people handouts" mold, wouldn't be able to tell those jokes effectively.

                              People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

                              It's not funny. It's a double standard. Bad job out of deniro.

                              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                @heckofajobbrownie said:

                                Because it wouldn't be the same joke. That's why the reaction would be different.

                                People have to think you're trying to be humorous, not derisive. That's key.

                                Now that's funny!

                                WSS

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                                H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                Now that's funny!

                                WSS

                                I tend to think I know a little bit more about this than you do, my friend.

                                You can't poke fun at race if people think you're doing it from a bad place, or if the punchline touches on racist attitudes. It's often a narrow line. But Newt Gingrich saying, "Now do you really think our country is ready for another black first lady? Too soon, right?" is not even close to being a joke, and it would never get a laugh. People would be stunned. You'd hear crickets. And then you'd make news for saying something peculiar.

                                Because it's not the same joke. It's not the reverse just because you put the same words in someone else's mouth. Everything is different but the words. The premise changes. It's no longer referencing a cultural meme. Everything falls apart.

                                Try this same theory, but with an even more obvious example:

                                Chris Rock: "I love black people, but I hate niggers."

                                Newt Gingrich: "I love black people, but I hate niggers."

                                ...Get my drift? It matters who is telling the joke, and why they're telling it, and what the reference is.

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                                  H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                                  "Can we please stop the fake 'offended' routine? Pls explain what was allegedly offensive about De Niro's joke." - Ann Coulter

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                                    "Can we please stop the fake 'offended' routine? Pls explain what was allegedly offensive about De Niro's joke." - Ann Coulter

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                                    @heckofajobbrownie said:

                                    "Can we please stop the fake 'offended' routine? Pls explain what was allegedly offensive about De Niro's joke." - Ann Coulter

                                    She's right.

                                    As usual.

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                      It matters who the libs LIKE, and who they don't like.

                                      If they like somebody's emotional political bents, why, the excuses are eternal.

                                      If they don't like sombody's stances on issues, they hate the exact same statement.

                                      It's all about how Heck/woodpecker/ etc etc etc FEEL at the time, and how they FEEL about the person speaking.

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                                        It matters who the libs LIKE, and who they don't like.

                                        If they like somebody's emotional political bents, why, the excuses are eternal.

                                        If they don't like sombody's stances on issues, they hate the exact same statement.

                                        It's all about how Heck/woodpecker/ etc etc etc FEEL at the time, and how they FEEL about the person speaking.

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        It matters who the libs LIKE, and who they don't like.

                                        If they like somebody's emotional political bents, why, the excuses are eternal.

                                        If they don't like sombody's stances on issues, they hate the exact same statement.

                                        It's all about how Heck/woodpecker/ etc etc etc FEEL at the time, and how they FEEL about the person speaking.

                                        Holy shit you moron

                                        How many times do we have to go over this?

                                        I don't "feel" how I choose things, I use common sense, facts, science, etc. I'm a goddamn engineer... you think it get by in class by picking the answer that feels best?

                                        and no, I'm not in an "emotion outburst" or w/e the hell you are going to call this. I am going off of facts, common sense, and your favorite, history, and they are all telling me you are a closed minded old man that refuses to listen to anyone that disagrees with him

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                                          Found a video of cal

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