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  • @harry-buffalo said:

    How do these things not describe Colt. He puts in more work than anyone on the team, literally puts his body and healthy on the line to just try and win a game, and he has done everything he can to get better. Shit we have what you are saying you want. Pathetic pieces of shit like you are what make this franchise smell like shit.

    Colt's put a lot of time and effort into it...and has nothing to show for it. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, that's the way it is. He's shown no progression, at times he's actually regressed.

    Just like Tebow.

    So if we're going to put up with that, let's at least have a guy who manages to win at the helm.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Colt's put a lot of time and effort into it...and has nothing to show for it. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, that's the way it is. He's shown no progression, at times he's actually regressed.

    Much of that I put on the shoulders of Pat Shurmur and the offense he runs. Not all, but much.

    Just like Tebow.

    So if we're going to put up with that, let's at least have a guy who manages to win at the helm.

  • How is colt a game manager, yet tebow just wins games?

    Yes...u are a shill. Pimping a qb that can't throw a fucking football because he just wins.

    Lmao...alrighty then.

    @choco said:

    How is colt a game manager, yet tebow just wins games?

    Yes...u are a shill. Pimping a qb that can't throw a fucking football because he just wins.

    Lmao...alrighty then.

    Do you have anything that disproves my point? Tebow had more wins last season than Colt has in his career.

    That's all there is to it. You can say "alrighty then" all you want...because what I said is true and you have no comeback other than "dude can't throw a football".

    One guy wins, the other guy hasn't won shit. Case closed.

  • @harry-buffalo said:

    How do these things not describe Colt. He puts in more work than anyone on the team, literally puts his body and healthy on the line to just try and win a game, and he has done everything he can to get better. Shit we have what you are saying you want. Pathetic pieces of shit like you are what make this franchise smell like shit.

    Colt's put a lot of time and effort into it...and has nothing to show for it. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, that's the way it is. He's shown no progression, at times he's actually regressed.

    Just like Tebow.

    So if we're going to put up with that, let's at least have a guy who manages to win at the helm.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Colt's put a lot of time and effort into it...and has nothing to show for it. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, that's the way it is. He's shown no progression, at times he's actually regressed.

    Just like Tebow.

    So if we're going to put up with that, let's at least have a guy who manages to win at the helm.

    As compared to how Tebow ran a system completely designed around him and not all the different from what he ran at Flordia while Colt ran a system he had literally just learned with less play makers. Tebow had the odds more in his favor than Colt and managed to just barely win games while Colt had more against him and barely managed to lose them. If Denvers defense was just slightly worse we would all be talking about how Tebow CAN'T find a way to win.

    I'm not giving a ringing endorsement for Colt, I'm just saying we would not have gotten any kind of upgrade by trading for Tebow.

  • ok...so tebow has a better record as a starter than mccoy. i also agree that mccoy sucks...so im not so sure being better than crap is good either. thats great and all....tho now the onus is on you to disprove my point. how is tebow anything more than a game manager...cause quite frankly, you got nothing other than "he just wins".

    he did not win by throwing the football....he won by running a specially designed gimmick offense predicated on running the football, utilizing college football principles. he cant run a pro offense, he cant read defenses, he cant deliver a football on time accurately...like our system demands. not to mention that he's left handed, which mitigates our best lineman.

    stop being a fool. your telling me you think the gimmick that is tebow can sustain this run? didn't he lose 4 of his last 5? cause it seemed like he lost steam as more film became available. if you seriously think that professional DC's cannot figure out how to stop a run-first QB that doesn't possess the ability to throw a football, youre out to lunch. the only people that think tebow is a starting NFL QB are fans.

    youre only leg to stand on is that he's won some games....yet he won those games in part due to outstanding defense that kept the scores low enough that tebow could win them. yes, he most likely inspired the good play....but its certainly not like the guy went out and won those games as real QB's do.

    "he just wins"....lmao. hell, even DA strung together a few games. i do find this funny actually....you trying to simplify an extremely complicated situation because there's nothing to suggest, other than his W-L record, to suggest he can succeed at QB. not a god damn thing. case closed? hardly...if you think all this is no comeback, then fire up your internets and make a case other than "he just wins".....cause thats a hell of alot more foolish that "he cant throw a football".

    colts situation is so different from tebows, its hard to compare. tebow got a special offense designed for him....colt has been thru 2 different systems, one of which is rigid and forced him to conform. ie, one was catered to, one was not. lost in the shuffle here is that colt is smart enough to learn a real system...tebow....well....

    so please...i can go on all day. you have anything besides continued luck and divine intervention? magic and hope dont return shit in real life.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Colt's put a lot of time and effort into it...and has nothing to show for it. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, that's the way it is. He's shown no progression, at times he's actually regressed.

    Just like Tebow.

    So if we're going to put up with that, let's at least have a guy who manages to win at the helm.

    As compared to how Tebow ran a system completely designed around him and not all the different from what he ran at Flordia while Colt ran a system he had literally just learned with less play makers. Tebow had the odds more in his favor than Colt and managed to just barely win games while Colt had more against him and barely managed to lose them. If Denvers defense was just slightly worse we would all be talking about how Tebow CAN'T find a way to win.

    I'm not giving a ringing endorsement for Colt, I'm just saying we would not have gotten any kind of upgrade by trading for Tebow.

    @harry-buffalo said:

    As compared to how Tebow ran a system completely designed around him and not all the different from what he ran at Flordia while Colt ran a system he had literally just learned with less play makers. Tebow had the odds more in his favor than Colt and managed to just barely win games while Colt had more against him and barely managed to lose them. If Denvers defense was just slightly worse we would all be talking about how Tebow CAN'T find a way to win.

    I'm not giving a ringing endorsement for Colt, I'm just saying we would not have gotten any kind of upgrade by trading for Tebow.

    Denver did have a better defense and a better running game than the Browns...and played in a much weaker division (that is why Manning chose to go there). Just saying.

  • ok...so tebow has a better record as a starter than mccoy. i also agree that mccoy sucks...so im not so sure being better than crap is good either. thats great and all....tho now the onus is on you to disprove my point. how is tebow anything more than a game manager...cause quite frankly, you got nothing other than "he just wins".

    he did not win by throwing the football....he won by running a specially designed gimmick offense predicated on running the football, utilizing college football principles. he cant run a pro offense, he cant read defenses, he cant deliver a football on time accurately...like our system demands. not to mention that he's left handed, which mitigates our best lineman.

    stop being a fool. your telling me you think the gimmick that is tebow can sustain this run? didn't he lose 4 of his last 5? cause it seemed like he lost steam as more film became available. if you seriously think that professional DC's cannot figure out how to stop a run-first QB that doesn't possess the ability to throw a football, youre out to lunch. the only people that think tebow is a starting NFL QB are fans.

    youre only leg to stand on is that he's won some games....yet he won those games in part due to outstanding defense that kept the scores low enough that tebow could win them. yes, he most likely inspired the good play....but its certainly not like the guy went out and won those games as real QB's do.

    "he just wins"....lmao. hell, even DA strung together a few games. i do find this funny actually....you trying to simplify an extremely complicated situation because there's nothing to suggest, other than his W-L record, to suggest he can succeed at QB. not a god damn thing. case closed? hardly...if you think all this is no comeback, then fire up your internets and make a case other than "he just wins".....cause thats a hell of alot more foolish that "he cant throw a football".

    colts situation is so different from tebows, its hard to compare. tebow got a special offense designed for him....colt has been thru 2 different systems, one of which is rigid and forced him to conform. ie, one was catered to, one was not. lost in the shuffle here is that colt is smart enough to learn a real system...tebow....well....

    so please...i can go on all day. you have anything besides continued luck and divine intervention? magic and hope dont return shit in real life.

    @choco said:

    ok...so tebow has a better record as a starter than mccoy. i also agree that mccoy sucks...so im not so sure being better than crap is good either. thats great and all....tho now the onus is on you to disprove my point. how is tebow anything more than a game manager...cause quite frankly, you got nothing other than "he just wins".

    he did not win by throwing the football....he won by running a specially designed gimmick offense predicated on running the football, utilizing college football principles. he cant run a pro offense, he cant read defenses, he cant deliver a football on time accurately...like our system demands. not to mention that he's left handed, which mitigates our best lineman.

    stop being a fool. your telling me you think the gimmick that is tebow can sustain this run? didn't he lose 4 of his last 5? cause it seemed like he lost steam as more film became available. if you seriously think that professional DC's cannot figure out how to stop a run-first QB that doesn't possess the ability to throw a football, youre out to lunch. the only people that think tebow is a starting NFL QB are fans.

    youre only leg to stand on is that he's won some games....yet he won those games in part due to outstanding defense that kept the scores low enough that tebow could win them. yes, he most likely inspired the good play....but its certainly not like the guy went out and won those games as real QB's do.

    "he just wins"....lmao. hell, even DA strung together a few games. i do find this funny actually....you trying to simplify an extremely complicated situation because there's nothing to suggest, other than his W-L record, to suggest he can succeed at QB. not a god damn thing. case closed? hardly...if you think all this is no comeback, then fire up your internets and make a case other than "he just wins".....cause thats a hell of alot more foolish that "he cant throw a football".

    colts situation is so different from tebows, its hard to compare. tebow got a special offense designed for him....colt has been thru 2 different systems, one of which is rigid and forced him to conform. ie, one was catered to, one was not. lost in the shuffle here is that colt is smart enough to learn a real system...tebow....well....

    so please...i can go on all day. you have anything besides continued luck and divine intervention? magic and hope dont return shit in real life.

    When did I ever disagree that he can't throw the football?

    What im saying is that Tebow and McCoy have very similar stats (excluding yardage but McCoy also had twice as many attempts). Neither is far and above better than the other, yet one of them has more wins in one year than the other has in his career.

    Chalk it up to whatever you want but Orton had the exact same team and went 1-4. People said the option wasn't going to work in the NFL, but it clearly did. How would it hurt to bring in Tebow to run what he did in Denver occasionally? I realize we're committed to the WCO, and that's why keeping Colt at least makes a little sense. Make whatever jokes about Childress' simple offense but he has run a couple trick plays in his day. Adding Tebow has absolutely 0 negative effects, other than his contract being on the books.

    For a fourth and a sixth round pick? Even if Tebow only got a couple touchdowns, it's likely more than those picks would have gotten.

  • you didn't hear? tebow had it in his contract clause that he won't play for a team whose stadium sits on the river of hades.

    fuck that douche. the abuse that this kid is going to take in ny will see to it that he fades away into the shadows like the antichrist is said to do.

    boo hoo.

  • you didn't hear? tebow had it in his contract clause that he won't play for a team whose stadium sits on the river of hades.

    fuck that douche. the abuse that this kid is going to take in ny will see to it that he fades away into the shadows like the antichrist is said to do.

    boo hoo.

    @miktoxic said:

    you didn't hear? tebow had it in his contract clause that he won't play for a team whose stadium sits on the river of hades.

    fuck that douche. the abuse that this kid is going to take in ny will see to it that he fades away into the shadows like the antichrist is said to do.

    boo hoo.

    Shitting on somebody because of their religion is the height of immaturity and ignorance.

  • @miktoxic said:

    you didn't hear? tebow had it in his contract clause that he won't play for a team whose stadium sits on the river of hades.

    fuck that douche. the abuse that this kid is going to take in ny will see to it that he fades away into the shadows like the antichrist is said to do.

    boo hoo.

    Shitting on somebody because of their religion is the height of immaturity and ignorance.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Shitting on somebody because of their religion is the height of immaturity and ignorance.

    then don't say i'll burn in hell if i don't believe in his specific religion as he has said many times before.

    that is pretty ignorant in my eyes.

    religion has been at the forefront of every war committed on this earth.

    what do you go down to the local creek and dance around with rattlesnakes and believe when they bite you that it's a sign from god?

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Shitting on somebody because of their religion is the height of immaturity and ignorance.

    then don't say i'll burn in hell if i don't believe in his specific religion as he has said many times before.

    that is pretty ignorant in my eyes.

    religion has been at the forefront of every war committed on this earth.

    what do you go down to the local creek and dance around with rattlesnakes and believe when they bite you that it's a sign from god?

    @miktoxic said:

    then don't say i'll burn in hell if i don't believe in his specific religion as he has said many times before.

    that is pretty ignorant in my eyes.

    religion has been at the forefront of every war committed on this earth.

    what do you go down to the local creek and dance around with rattlesnakes and believe when they bite you that it's a sign from god?

    Every religion believes those who aren't followers are doomed, not just Christianity.

    Just because I don't hate him for his religion doesn't mean I'm a fanatical bible-thumper myself. I haven't been to church in over five years, and even when I did go I only went for the holidays. I don't necessarily believe in a giant bearded man in the sky, or a pitchforked red man in the dirt. I don't know what I believe in, but I take comfort in believing in something.

    What do you do, sit in your room all day and worship Halo and cyanobacteria?

    I can be just as closeminded and douchelike as you, if you want to go this route.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Shitting on somebody because of their religion is the height of immaturity and ignorance.

    then don't say i'll burn in hell if i don't believe in his specific religion as he has said many times before.

    that is pretty ignorant in my eyes.

    religion has been at the forefront of every war committed on this earth.

    what do you go down to the local creek and dance around with rattlesnakes and believe when they bite you that it's a sign from god?

    @miktoxic said:

    then don't say i'll burn in hell if i don't believe in his specific religion as he has said many times before.

    that is pretty ignorant in my eyes.

    religion has been at the forefront of every war committed on this earth.

    what do you go down to the local creek and dance around with rattlesnakes and believe when they bite you that it's a sign from god?

    How I could forget about World War 2. When the Catholic nations invaded other Catholic nations and the Protestants invaded other Protestants.

  • @miktoxic said:

    then don't say i'll burn in hell if i don't believe in his specific religion as he has said many times before.

    that is pretty ignorant in my eyes.

    religion has been at the forefront of every war committed on this earth.

    what do you go down to the local creek and dance around with rattlesnakes and believe when they bite you that it's a sign from god?

    Every religion believes those who aren't followers are doomed, not just Christianity.

    Just because I don't hate him for his religion doesn't mean I'm a fanatical bible-thumper myself. I haven't been to church in over five years, and even when I did go I only went for the holidays. I don't necessarily believe in a giant bearded man in the sky, or a pitchforked red man in the dirt. I don't know what I believe in, but I take comfort in believing in something.

    What do you do, sit in your room all day and worship Halo and cyanobacteria?

    I can be just as closeminded and douchelike as you, if you want to go this route.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Every religion believes those who aren't followers are doomed, not just Christianity.

    Just because I don't hate him for his religion doesn't mean I'm a fanatical bible-thumper myself. I haven't been to church in over five years, and even when I did go I only went for the holidays. I don't necessarily believe in a giant bearded man in the sky, or a pitchforked red man in the dirt. I don't know what I believe in, but I take comfort in believing in something.

    What do you do, sit in your room all day and worship Halo and cyanobacteria?

    I can be just as closeminded and douchelike as you, if you want to go this route.

    Fun Bible fact. The Bible never revels what the Devil or Hell looks like. The horned red guy living in a cave of flames is something that man made up over time. Also the Bible never says that there will be a single Anti Christ/song of the devil that most people believe. The Bible actually refers to people who turn away from Jesus or don't believe in Jesus to be the Anti Christ as in your are anti Christ. By which anyone who is not a Christian and doesn't truly believe in him is technically the Anti Christ. Kind of funny if you ask me.

  • @miktoxic said:

    then don't say i'll burn in hell if i don't believe in his specific religion as he has said many times before.

    that is pretty ignorant in my eyes.

    religion has been at the forefront of every war committed on this earth.

    what do you go down to the local creek and dance around with rattlesnakes and believe when they bite you that it's a sign from god?

    Every religion believes those who aren't followers are doomed, not just Christianity.

    Just because I don't hate him for his religion doesn't mean I'm a fanatical bible-thumper myself. I haven't been to church in over five years, and even when I did go I only went for the holidays. I don't necessarily believe in a giant bearded man in the sky, or a pitchforked red man in the dirt. I don't know what I believe in, but I take comfort in believing in something.

    What do you do, sit in your room all day and worship Halo and cyanobacteria?

    I can be just as closeminded and douchelike as you, if you want to go this route.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Every religion believes those who aren't followers are doomed, not just Christianity.

    Just because I don't hate him for his religion doesn't mean I'm a fanatical bible-thumper myself. I haven't been to church in over five years, and even when I did go I only went for the holidays. I don't necessarily believe in a giant bearded man in the sky, or a pitchforked red man in the dirt. I don't know what I believe in, but I take comfort in believing in something.

    What do you do, sit in your room all day and worship Halo and cyanobacteria?

    I can be just as closeminded and douchelike as you, if you want to go this route.

    nah man. ain't that important to me. kid is a player, i'll give you that. but let me see him do his magic on a consistent level in the pros and even i might become a believer in him.

    i'm so closeminded that i actually believed that kirk was god and kahn was beezlebub.

    really. ok cantonlegend.