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What Teams Do You Think Will Want Our #4?

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  • Thanks for the replies so far. Gave me some ideas and Here are my semi-coalesced thoughts...

    I'm really thinking that unless someone trades for the Vike's #3, any deals for our #4 will be on draft day after the #3 has been used. And I think the Vikes trading out of #3 is unlikely as nearly all the draft pundits agree that Kalil is their guy. And if they trade below us, then we will find someone in the top 12 who wants Kalil and trade with them.

    So with the Vikes staying put and tagging Kalil...

    5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers

    I think the Bucs are content to catch whomever out of TR and Claiborne fall to them. So no trade there.

    6 Rams (from Redskins)

    I think they want Blackmon, but if Claiborne fell to them, I think they're good with that. If neither is there they just might trade down. So no trade there.

    7 Jacksonville Jaguars

    Bit of a wild card here since the franchise is in serious disarray, but mocks seem to focus on a DE, either Coples or Ingram. So no trade up for them; if anything they may move down if an "elite" collegian is still around at #7...

    8 Miami Dolphins

    Tannehill... clearly we're the only team above them that might be interested in him... and I don't think we are... and I don't think they think we are... So no trade there.

    9 Carolina Panthers

    D-line is their consensus need, and DT in particular, and they certainly don't need to move up to grab a good one. So no trade there.

    10 Buffalo Bills

    A starting OT is their consensus goal. Kalil is gone but Reiff and Martin are there to choose from. So no trade there.

    Noticing a trend as we leave the top ten???

    11 Kansas City Chiefs

    Romeo's new home offers the first glimmer of hope for us as they might be coveting Tannehill, but there are three teams below us that could well land them Ryan before the Fins grab him. But they could go D-line as well, and a growing consensus is for them to take future all-world OG David DeCastro.

    So first possible, but not likely here...

    12 Seattle Seahawks

    DE or LB seem to be their need, a stud at one (Ingram) or the other (Kuechly) will still be on the board come #12. So no trade here.

    13 Arizona Cardinals

    OT is a need. Either Reiff or Martin should be on the board. So, once again, no trade there.

    14 Dallas Cowboys

    DING DING DING.... We (may) have a winner.

    Jones perennially believes they are "only one player away" from their next SB victory.

    This year da 'boys need a DB...

    This year THE DB in the draft is Claiborne...

    If they want Maurice, they talk to us...

    Could net us as much as their 2012 1 and 2 and their 2013 #1... Payback for the Brady Q fiasco???

    Question is now will there be anyone at #14 worth nabbing? Could be IF Kuechly is on our radar at all. Kuech goes to MLB and DQ to OLB... If Kuech is gone Reiff or Martin could be there... or Ingram (my guy). And there's always the possibility of trading back up to 10 or so, but that's getting pretty complicated for a mock. And once the trade back up thought is opened, trading down lower than #14 is a possibility as well...

    There may be preliminary, foundational talks going on now with the Cowboys about a move down. Could simultaneously be talking to teams in the #9 to 12 range about moves up (under the guise of moving up our #22). We won't know until draft day... but...

    I'm beginning to think for the first time that we will be staying put at #4... and I think that means Blackmon or Claiborne or Richardson. Not as exciting as a trading binge, but simpler...

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  • When we pick, the odds are good Blackmon,Richardson, Clairborne, and Tannehill will be there, so really, every team in the league could have interest in moving up There is a WR, a RB, CB, and a QB. Everybody needs at least one of those positions.

    We have a trading history with Dallas and they might want Clairborne. I'd think that could be a potential landing spot if we in fact trade out of the pick.

    Here is how I see it. If we like Tannehill, we are selecting him at #4. If we decide to pass on him, we probably trade down to get some extra picks. If we want one of those picks to be a next year first rounder that might give us a shot at next years top QB, we are going to have to drop more than 2-3 slots...

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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  • It's nice that the Browns and their fans are so concerned about other teams and want to help them by trading down.

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  • 1 more season1 1 more season

    It's nice that the Browns and their fans are so concerned about other teams and want to help them by trading down.

    @1-more-season said:

    It's nice that the Browns and their fans are so concerned about other teams and want to help them by trading down.

    That's been the Browns motto lately... Quantity over Quality.

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    When we pick, the odds are good Blackmon,Richardson, Clairborne, and Tannehill will be there, so really, every team in the league could have interest in moving up There is a WR, a RB, CB, and a QB. Everybody needs at least one of those positions.

    We have a trading history with Dallas and they might want Clairborne. I'd think that could be a potential landing spot if we in fact trade out of the pick.

    Here is how I see it. If we like Tannehill, we are selecting him at #4. If we decide to pass on him, we probably trade down to get some extra picks. If we want one of those picks to be a next year first rounder that might give us a shot at next years top QB, we are going to have to drop more than 2-3 slots...

    @ballpeen said:

    When we pick, the odds are good Blackmon,Richardson, Clairborne, and Tannehill will be there, so really, every team in the league could have interest in moving up There is a WR, a RB, CB, and a QB. Everybody needs at least one of those positions.

    We have a trading history with Dallas and they might want Clairborne. I'd think that could be a potential landing spot if we in fact trade out of the pick.

    Here is how I see it. If we like Tannehill, we are selecting him at #4. If we decide to pass on him, we probably trade down to get some extra picks. If we want one of those picks to be a next year first rounder that might give us a shot at next years top QB, we are going to have to drop more than 2-3 slots...

    The Redskins didn't have two first round picks within the year and they traded up.

  • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

    I don't see us trading back any farther than the 8th pick. We could scare Miami into thinking we are going to trade with the Chiefs or that we ourselves will take Tannehill, maybe drive up the price a bit and trade with them, or trade back to 6 or 7 to St. Louis and Jaq who are both interested in Blackmon and Claiborne.

    @harry-buffalo said:

    I don't see us trading back any farther than the 8th pick. We could scare Miami into thinking we are going to trade with the Chiefs or that we ourselves will take Tannehill, maybe drive up the price a bit and trade with them, or trade back to 6 or 7 to St. Louis and Jaq who are both interested in Blackmon and Claiborne.

  • Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo

    I don't see us trading back any farther than the 8th pick. We could scare Miami into thinking we are going to trade with the Chiefs or that we ourselves will take Tannehill, maybe drive up the price a bit and trade with them, or trade back to 6 or 7 to St. Louis and Jaq who are both interested in Blackmon and Claiborne.

    @harry-buffalo said:

    I don't see us trading back any farther than the 8th pick. We could scare Miami into thinking we are going to trade with the Chiefs or that we ourselves will take Tannehill, maybe drive up the price a bit and trade with them, or trade back to 6 or 7 to St. Louis and Jaq who are both interested in Blackmon and Claiborne.

    HB, Gip,

    Did not address this directly earlier, but the problems I have with the above scenario are that:

    - any willingness to trade with a team, e.g., Miami, tells them we are not interested in the player that they are interested in, e.g., Tannehill; and

    - I don't think the Chiefs are interested in Tannehill; Matt Cassel seems to be their guy for at least one more season.

    Anyway my premise that the Viks will take Kalil, may not be true... and that would change everything.

    bleacherreport.com: why-the-browns-should-trade-down-if-the-vikings-pass-on-kalil

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @harry-buffalo said:

    I don't see us trading back any farther than the 8th pick. We could scare Miami into thinking we are going to trade with the Chiefs or that we ourselves will take Tannehill, maybe drive up the price a bit and trade with them, or trade back to 6 or 7 to St. Louis and Jaq who are both interested in Blackmon and Claiborne.

    HB, Gip,

    Did not address this directly earlier, but the problems I have with the above scenario are that:

    - any willingness to trade with a team, e.g., Miami, tells them we are not interested in the player that they are interested in, e.g., Tannehill; and

    - I don't think the Chiefs are interested in Tannehill; Matt Cassel seems to be their guy for at least one more season.

    Anyway my premise that the Viks will take Kalil, may not be true... and that would change everything.

    bleacherreport.com: why-the-browns-should-trade-down-if-the-vikings-pass-on-kalil

    @tour2ma said:

    HB, Gip,

    Did not address this directly earlier, but the problems I have with the above scenario are that:

    - any willingness to trade with a team, e.g., Miami, tells them we are not interested in the player that they are interested in, e.g., Tannehill; and

    - I don't think the Chiefs are interested in Tannehill; Matt Cassel seems to be their guy for at least one more season.

    Anyway my premise that the Viks will take Kalil, may not be true... and that would change everything.

    What? Do you think the Vikes will take Tannehill, when they just picked up Ponder in the first round last year?

    My view is that the Browns believe that 3 players will be gone by their pick: Luck, RGIII and Kalil Gibran. I also think that they may be willing to take any one of 3 players: Claiborne, Blackmon, Richardson.

    If someone desperately wants Tannehill at #4, then I think the Browns will trade down to 6/7/8 if they can pick up another second rounder in doing so.

    The question is who do they deal with?

  • Would it be to Crazy to trade with Carolina our 4 for there 9 And a 3 or 4th and also take Jimmy Clausen off thier hands, draft M. Floyd and then Doug Martin at 22. Im not saying that Clausen is going to be great but i think he could be better than Colt.

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  • cambridgehoC cambridgeho

    Would it be to Crazy to trade with Carolina our 4 for there 9 And a 3 or 4th and also take Jimmy Clausen off thier hands, draft M. Floyd and then Doug Martin at 22. Im not saying that Clausen is going to be great but i think he could be better than Colt.

    @cambridgeho said:

    Would it be to Crazy to trade with Carolina our 4 for there 9 And a 3 or 4th and also take Jimmy Clausen off thier hands, draft M. Floyd and then Doug Martin at 22. Im not saying that Clausen is going to be great but i think he could be better than Colt.

    Yes, it would be crazy.

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  • cambridgehoC cambridgeho

    Would it be to Crazy to trade with Carolina our 4 for there 9 And a 3 or 4th and also take Jimmy Clausen off thier hands, draft M. Floyd and then Doug Martin at 22. Im not saying that Clausen is going to be great but i think he could be better than Colt.

    @cambridgeho said:

    Would it be to Crazy to trade with Carolina our 4 for there 9 And a 3 or 4th and also take Jimmy Clausen off thier hands, draft M. Floyd and then Doug Martin at 22. Im not saying that Clausen is going to be great but i think he could be better than Colt.

    Fuckabuncha Jimmy Clausen

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