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Vapor,
that was a stupid retort. The picture was not about the Trail of Tears, you dumbass.
You want to post a pic of that.....@@ feel free.
Or, are you stupidly saying that we should just be all happy about the Japanese military atrocities,
because the Trail of Tears happened?
See? Vapor just emoted, quite stupidly, changed the subject, and knee jerked
to have an objection to a stance by somebody else.
It's what libs do. They can't stop it.
And Woody, he is talking about the ATROCITIES, not current day Japanese people.
The military Japanese war criminals who committed them will never be forgiven.
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I should say never forget. I have a playstation, clearly we've forgiven each other, but yes. I don't forgive their wartime atrocities any more than they've forgiven the atomic bombing, in that I choose my side and stand by it, liberal college boy who's never served and most likely never even been in a fight. Yes. Ever heard of the bataan death march? The rape of nanking? We don't forgive the nazis for the death camps do we?
I don't see why you would want to hold a grudge against an entire nationality because of what some did, but ok. Nazis are a different case too. Correct, I have never served and I hope I don't ever have to. But no, I am not a liberal, but I say this all the time... so I guess it won't matter.
I don't see why you would want to hold a grudge against an entire nationality because of what some did, but ok. Nazis are a different case too. Correct, I have never served and I hope I don't ever have to. But no, I am not a liberal, but I say this all the time... so I guess it won't matter.
You're not a liberal? What are you then? What issues do you consider yourself conservative on?
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I don't see why you would want to hold a grudge against an entire nationality because of what some did, but ok. Nazis are a different case too. Correct, I have never served and I hope I don't ever have to. But no, I am not a liberal, but I say this all the time... so I guess it won't matter.
You're not a liberal? What are you then? What issues do you consider yourself conservative on?
You're not a liberal? What are you then? What issues do you consider yourself conservative on?
I don't think I have very liberal views about the economy...
But, I mean, on issues like abortion and gay marriage and stuff I just choose the common sense answer. If that happens to be the liberal view then so be it.
Basically I am not going to run around and choose the conservative view on everything or the liberal view on anything or just follow one party's view on everything or some shit like that. I'll make my own decisions and see where the chips fall. In this case, if you average everything out I'd probably be a little liberal though
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Because we as Americans have never committed anything that could be construed as a war crime.
Ever hear of the Trail of Tears? The American government treated Native Americans as poorly as the Japanese did the Filipinos.I didn't try and justify things America did wrong. I just choose my side as it were.
I didn't try and justify things America did wrong. I just choose my side as it were.
You also said "Never forgive the Japs." Which is a really stupid comment.
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I didn't try and justify things America did wrong. I just choose my side as it were.
You also said "Never forgive the Japs." Which is a really stupid comment.
You also said "Never forgive the Japs." Which is a really stupid comment.
It is to you. Probably not your grandfather though. That was a generation of men. Not pussified metrosexuals.
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You also said "Never forgive the Japs." Which is a really stupid comment.
It is to you. Probably not your grandfather though. That was a generation of men. Not pussified metrosexuals.
It is to you. Probably not your grandfather though. That was a generation of men. Not pussified metrosexuals.
Yep, real men hold grudges on an entire nationality while simultaneously calling them a racial slur...
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It is to you. Probably not your grandfather though. That was a generation of men. Not pussified metrosexuals.
Yep, real men hold grudges on an entire nationality while simultaneously calling them a racial slur...
Yep, real men hold grudges on an entire nationality while simultaneously calling them a racial slur...
It's not really a racial slur though, is it, engineer? Is Japanese a race? It's more national slur. That's like saying calling Germans krauts is a racial slur.
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
The japanese back then were ruthless especially as they were capturing neighboring pacific island nations. My parents were Dutch colonists in Batavia (Jakarta) Indonesia. They were teenagers at the time, and watched their parents, specifically the men first - gathered up and put to work in slave camps and road/bridge building or also serving as death marches. Then the rest of the families spent the duration of the Jap rule in concentration camps.
So yes, there are JUSTIFIED reasons to feel the way that says "never forgive the japanese" But it is a bygone era, and I agree with you Cysco, the overlooking of such history is indeed the " pussification of todays metrosexuals"
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Yep, real men hold grudges on an entire nationality while simultaneously calling them a racial slur...
It's not really a racial slur though, is it, engineer? Is Japanese a race? It's more national slur. That's like saying calling Germans krauts is a racial slur.
It's not really a racial slur though, is it, engineer? Is Japanese a race? It's more national slur. That's like saying calling Germans krauts is a racial slur.
I was going to edit that after I posted it, but I didn't think it would be a big deal.
Regardless it is offensive. Don't get caught up on my wording. If you want to respond focus on why it is ok to hold this grudge and why it is ok to insult so many people
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The japanese back then were ruthless especially as they were capturing neighboring pacific island nations. My parents were Dutch colonists in Batavia (Jakarta) Indonesia. They were teenagers at the time, and watched their parents, specifically the men first - gathered up and put to work in slave camps and road/bridge building or also serving as death marches. Then the rest of the families spent the duration of the Jap rule in concentration camps.
So yes, there are JUSTIFIED reasons to feel the way that says "never forgive the japanese" But it is a bygone era, and I agree with you Cysco, the overlooking of such history is indeed the " pussification of todays metrosexuals"
The japanese back then were ruthless especially as they were capturing neighboring pacific island nations. My parents were Dutch colonists in Batavia (Jakarta) Indonesia. They were teenagers at the time, and watched their parents, specifically the men first - gathered up and put to work in slave camps and road/bridge building or also serving as death marches. Then the rest of the families spent the duration of the Jap rule in concentration camps.
So yes, there are JUSTIFIED reasons to feel the way that says "never forgive the japanese" But it is a bygone era, and I agree with you Cysco, the overlooking of such history is indeed the " pussification of todays metrosexuals"
Never forgive the the Wampanoag, Narragansett and Nimpuck Indians
Never forgive the French
Never forgive the French
Never forgive the British
Never forgive the British
Never forgive the Cherokee and Shawnee
Never forgive the Cherokee and Iroquois
Never forgive the Canadians
Never forgive the British
Never forgive the French
Never forgive the Moroccans and Algerians
Never forgive the British, Shawnee, Iroquois
Never forgive the Creek Indians
Never forgive the Mexicans
Never forgive the Southern Americans (Confederacy)
Never forgive the Sioux
Never forgive the Spanish
Never forgive the Germans, Italians, Hungarians, Austrians
Never forgive the Germans, Italians and Japanese
Never forgive the North Koreans, Chinese
Never forgive the North Vietnamese
Never forgive the Cubans
Never forgive the Iraqis
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It's ok to hold grudges against countries that attacked you with the intent of conquering your country much like they did to vast tracts of numerically superior China and then waged a war of attrition on you until absolutely forced into submission at the point of the sword as it were, commiting some really barbaric and horrific atrocities along the way.
I mean, the American Indians still hold a grudge against America don't they? Should they just forget about it, all is forgiven? In that, vapor is correct.
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The japanese back then were ruthless especially as they were capturing neighboring pacific island nations. My parents were Dutch colonists in Batavia (Jakarta) Indonesia. They were teenagers at the time, and watched their parents, specifically the men first - gathered up and put to work in slave camps and road/bridge building or also serving as death marches. Then the rest of the families spent the duration of the Jap rule in concentration camps.
So yes, there are JUSTIFIED reasons to feel the way that says "never forgive the japanese" But it is a bygone era, and I agree with you Cysco, the overlooking of such history is indeed the " pussification of todays metrosexuals"
Never forgive the the Wampanoag, Narragansett and Nimpuck Indians
Never forgive the French
Never forgive the French
Never forgive the British
Never forgive the British
Never forgive the Cherokee and Shawnee
Never forgive the Cherokee and Iroquois
Never forgive the Canadians
Never forgive the British
Never forgive the French
Never forgive the Moroccans and Algerians
Never forgive the British, Shawnee, Iroquois
Never forgive the Creek Indians
Never forgive the Mexicans
Never forgive the Southern Americans (Confederacy)
Never forgive the Sioux
Never forgive the Spanish
Never forgive the Germans, Italians, Hungarians, Austrians
Never forgive the Germans, Italians and Japanese
Never forgive the North Koreans, Chinese
Never forgive the North Vietnamese
Never forgive the Cubans
Never forgive the Iraqis
Never forgive the the Wampanoag, Narragansett and Nimpuck Indians
Never forgive the French
Never forgive the French
Never forgive the British
Never forgive the British
Never forgive the Cherokee and Shawnee
Never forgive the Cherokee and Iroquois
Never forgive the Canadians
Never forgive the British
Never forgive the French
Never forgive the Moroccans and Algerians
Never forgive the British, Shawnee, Iroquois
Never forgive the Creek Indians
Never forgive the Mexicans
Never forgive the Southern Americans (Confederacy)
Never forgive the Sioux
Never forgive the Spanish
Never forgive the Germans, Italians, Hungarians, Austrians
Never forgive the Germans, Italians and Japanese
Never forgive the North Koreans, Chinese
Never forgive the North Vietnamese
Never forgive the Cubans
Never forgive the Iraqis
Of all those you listed only two that I know of can be accused if directly attacking America with the intent to conquer so that's just a knee jerk post.
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It's not really a racial slur though, is it, engineer? Is Japanese a race? It's more national slur. That's like saying calling Germans krauts is a racial slur.
I was going to edit that after I posted it, but I didn't think it would be a big deal.
Regardless it is offensive. Don't get caught up on my wording. If you want to respond focus on why it is ok to hold this grudge and why it is ok to insult so many people
I was going to edit that after I posted it, but I didn't think it would be a big deal.
Regardless it is offensive. Don't get caught up on my wording. If you want to respond focus on why it is ok to hold this grudge and why it is ok to insult so many people
The big deal is that one would make you a racist and the other a nation hater. It's a big difference. The insult to so many people was and should still be pearl harbor. Should we forgive al-qaeda or do we wait a couple years yet?
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I was going to edit that after I posted it, but I didn't think it would be a big deal.
Regardless it is offensive. Don't get caught up on my wording. If you want to respond focus on why it is ok to hold this grudge and why it is ok to insult so many people
The big deal is that one would make you a racist and the other a nation hater. It's a big difference. The insult to so many people was and should still be pearl harbor. Should we forgive al-qaeda or do we wait a couple years yet?
The big deal is that one would make you a racist and the other a nation hater. It's a big difference. The insult to so many people was and should still be pearl harbor. Should we forgive al-qaeda or do we wait a couple years yet?
Ok dude, fine. Don't trust any Japanese person you ever meet. Glare at them from a distance. Talk poorly about them behind their back. I don't care any more.
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The japanese back then were ruthless especially as they were capturing neighboring pacific island nations. My parents were Dutch colonists in Batavia (Jakarta) Indonesia. They were teenagers at the time, and watched their parents, specifically the men first - gathered up and put to work in slave camps and road/bridge building or also serving as death marches. Then the rest of the families spent the duration of the Jap rule in concentration camps.
So yes, there are JUSTIFIED reasons to feel the way that says "never forgive the japanese" But it is a bygone era, and I agree with you Cysco, the overlooking of such history is indeed the " pussification of todays metrosexuals"
The japanese back then were ruthless especially as they were capturing neighboring pacific island nations. My parents were Dutch colonists in Batavia (Jakarta) Indonesia. They were teenagers at the time, and watched their parents, specifically the men first - gathered up and put to work in slave camps and road/bridge building or also serving as death marches. Then the rest of the families spent the duration of the Jap rule in concentration camps.
So yes, there are JUSTIFIED reasons to feel the way that says "never forgive the japanese" But it is a bygone era, and I agree with you Cysco, the overlooking of such history is indeed the " pussification of todays metrosexuals"
Cool, dude. I'm part Filipino, so you're preaching to the "My ancestors have been abused by the Japanese" choir. Even had some relatives who helped liberate American POW's in this raid http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_at_Cabanatuan.
Should they just forget about it, all is forgiven? In that, vapor is correct.
Well, if you never forgive them, that means that you're stuck in the past. I think when entire cultures get that sort of mindset, you end up with a clusterfuck (see African tribal warfare, gang warfare in the U.S., or the entire Middle East).
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The only problem I have the the Japs is they blur out the good bits in their pseudo-70's porn.
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The only problem I have the the Japs is they blur out the good bits in their pseudo-70's porn.
The only problem I have the the Japs is they blur out the good bits in their pseudo-70's porn.
I know, right? What's up with that?
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
The big deal is that one would make you a racist and the other a nation hater. It's a big difference. The insult to so many people was and should still be pearl harbor. Should we forgive al-qaeda or do we wait a couple years yet?
Ok dude, fine. Don't trust any Japanese person you ever meet. Glare at them from a distance. Talk poorly about them behind their back. I don't care any more.
Ok dude, fine. Don't trust any Japanese person you ever meet. Glare at them from a distance. Talk poorly about them behind their back. I don't care any more.
There's things to admire about the Japanese. I don't hate them. If you're a technology guy they're goddamn geniuses with that, I just don't forgive their past behaviour. You are so black and white. I suspect that should fade some with age.
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Ok dude, fine. Don't trust any Japanese person you ever meet. Glare at them from a distance. Talk poorly about them behind their back. I don't care any more.
There's things to admire about the Japanese. I don't hate them. If you're a technology guy they're goddamn geniuses with that, I just don't forgive their past behaviour. You are so black and white. I suspect that should fade some with age.
There's things to admire about the Japanese. I don't hate them. If you're a technology guy they're goddamn geniuses with that, I just don't forgive their past behaviour. You are so black and white. I suspect that should fade some with age.
I'm black and white?!
This is coming from the person that said "Never forgive the japs "
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There's things to admire about the Japanese. I don't hate them. If you're a technology guy they're goddamn geniuses with that, I just don't forgive their past behaviour. You are so black and white. I suspect that should fade some with age.
I'm black and white?!
This is coming from the person that said "Never forgive the japs "
I'm black and white?!
This is coming from the person that said "Never forgive the japs "
Exactly. Forgive and hate and mistrust are three different things. I never said I hated the japs, I love their toys. I respect their spirit, and the traditional samurai culture. You don't seem to be able to compartmentalize these seperate things. You think in only black and white.
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