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  • LOL @ Brown fans criticizing the conference Griffin played in. Weeden played in the Big 12 as well.

  • One shouldn't throw stones if they live in a glass house with the "Dan Snyder overspends" stuff...

    Jeff Garcia, Andre Rison, Donte Stallworth, Jake Delhomme, Willie McGinest, trading a second and fourth round pick to Dallas to draft Brady Quinn, sending a second round pick to the Packers for Corey Williams and signing him to a 6-year, $38.6 million dollar deal, then trading him to Detroit after giving Detroit a fifth in addition to a 7th...

  • Zombo said:

    I don't think you're confused in as much as you're stupid.

    If Griffin turns out to be worth three first rounders and a second versus staying pat and grabbing Weeden with our second first rounder, that's one thing, but most feel Weeden can be very good and the age thing is just about immaterial. I guess we'll worry about his age when he's 37.

    We threw in a couple garbage picks to secure Richardson, the best running back prospect in years, so, kudos to our front office on that one. Sitting at four while someone else traded ahead of us and took him would have sucked ass.

    Schwartz was the highest rated pure right tackle in the draft, so we went out and got exactly what we wanted there.

    Sorry we didn't have a fourth pick in the top 40 to get a WR too, but, guess what, we're not mortgaged next year when there is a boatload of talent at WR coming out ... who are you guys going grab next year? OH ... married to the over-rated retreads for awhile ... OK, good luck with all that.

    Zombo

    I think I've been pretty respectful around these parts. I don't like walking to other people's houses and shitting on the carpet, so I'll thank you not to call m stupid.

    And the "overrated retreads" (I take it you mean Pierre Garcon and Josh Morgan) we signed were guys that your front office tried to obtain, in addition to trying to obtain Robert Griffin III.

    So your team wanted to make...pretty much every move my team made. And yet every move my team made is stupid, and every move your team made is not. Interesting logic, sir.

    ETA: And to make matters more confusing, the Browns thought RG3 was too small...yet they drafted Colt McCoy at 6'1" and 215 pounds in 2010? Again. Interesting logic.

    @nlc1054 said:

    I think I've been pretty respectful around these parts. I don't like walking to other people's houses and shitting on the carpet, so I'll thank you not to call m stupid.

    Too late, I already called you stupid, dicktits

    And the "overrated retreads" (I take it you mean Pierre Garcon and Josh Morgan) we signed were guys that your front office tried to obtain, in addition to trying to obtain Robert Griffin III.

    I wouldn't trade a first rounder for both of them together if you threw in a 12-pack. We have a first rounder next year, do you?

    So your team wanted to make...pretty much every move my team made. And yet every move my team made is stupid, and every move your team made is not. Interesting logic, sir.

    Hmmm. Here is your logic: "You guys would have been brilliant to give up three first rounders and a second rounder to move up two spots and take our guy, but you are really dumb to trade two late round garbage picks to move up one space and take your guy."

    ETA: And to make matters more confusing, the Browns thought RG3 was too small...yet they drafted Colt McCoy at 6'1" and 215 pounds in 2010? Again. Interesting logic.

    We drafted Colt in the mid third round. That's where smallish guys with good college stats go.

    Zombo

    --You guys get "confused" a lot

  • One shouldn't throw stones if they live in a glass house with the "Dan Snyder overspends" stuff...

    Jeff Garcia, Andre Rison, Donte Stallworth, Jake Delhomme, Willie McGinest, trading a second and fourth round pick to Dallas to draft Brady Quinn, sending a second round pick to the Packers for Corey Williams and signing him to a 6-year, $38.6 million dollar deal, then trading him to Detroit after giving Detroit a fifth in addition to a 7th...

    @nlc1054 said:

    One shouldn't throw stones if they live in a glass house with the "Dan Snyder overspends" stuff...

    Jeff Garcia, Andre Rison, Donte Stallworth, Jake Delhomme, Willie McGinest, trading a second and fourth round pick to Dallas to draft Brady Quinn, sending a second round pick to the Packers for Corey Williams and signing him to a 6-year, $38.6 million dollar deal, then trading him to Detroit after giving Detroit a fifth in addition to a 7th...

    Andre Rison? What, no Raymond Clayborn?

    Zombo

    --Can you go back 6 GMs, two owners and three decades when talking trash?

  • @mr.-sinister said:

    Theres just one very big difference...

    Griffin can throw, and throw accurately...

    Says who?

    Throwing "accurately" against scrub Big 12 DB's that will be watching NFL on Sundays is different than throwing accurately in the league.

    Lmao to the Browns fan that said Weeden will be better than RG3. You guys are truly delusional. 😕 I can't argue with the Richardson pick, but HH false sense of insecurity lost him picks. And don't start bashing the skins FO/RG3. My left ass cheek he's too small. He's 3/8 of an inch shorter than Weeden and is slightly heavier. Add the fact that he will have a learning curve with being accompanied by the worst receivers in the NFL.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Throwing "accurately" against scrub Big 12 DB's that will be watching NFL on Sundays is different than throwing accurately in the league.

    Funny Weeden played in the Big 12 too 🙄

    Zombo said:

    Yo, douchebag. You realize we drafted Brandon Weeden, not Michael Vick, right?

    Griffin is a fine prospect, but we got ourseselves a bigger, stronger QB AND the best running back prospect in years, so you might want to slow your roll.

    Zombo

    Yo douchebag. I doubt thatRobert-Griffin-III.jpg

    And Trent isn't nearly as good as AP was coming out.

    @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    Weeden will fare better in the NFL than RG3.

    😕 We'll get a glimpse in week 14. When he doesn't have Blackmon to bail him out 10 times a game while breaking 5 tackles a reception to inflate his stats.

    @unsympathetic said:

    As for not getting Morgan and Garcon: Washington paid Garcon $42.5 million, Morgan $6M per season. Those numbers are insane. And by insane, I mean typical for Snyder: Massive cost, very minimal return. Just like the contracts for DeAngelo Hall and Albert Haynesworth. Of course Cleveland was interested.. at a much lower cost. The point isn't to simply get a player, the point is to get a player at the correct price point. For example, during next year's offseason, due to Cleveland's good use of the cap and Washington's inability to maneuver, the Browns could easily sign Orakpo as a free agent.

    HAHAHAHAHAAH NO. Garcon is only guaranteed 21.5 mil, which is on par with Stevie Johnson. Morgan's contract is a 5 year 12 mill contract but can be terminated after 2 years. He's guaranteed 7.5 mill the first 2 years and will get a signing bonus of 5 mill if he is still on the team after the 2 years. So no, we didn't overpay / We also has 40+ mil in cap before Goodell fucked us. And I doubt Orakpo or any other free agent would want to even consider going to Cleveland.

    Sorry for the long post but didn't like what i was seeing. Just my 2 cents.

  • Lmao to the Browns fan that said Weeden will be better than RG3. You guys are truly delusional. 😕 I can't argue with the Richardson pick, but HH false sense of insecurity lost him picks. And don't start bashing the skins FO/RG3. My left ass cheek he's too small. He's 3/8 of an inch shorter than Weeden and is slightly heavier. Add the fact that he will have a learning curve with being accompanied by the worst receivers in the NFL.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Throwing "accurately" against scrub Big 12 DB's that will be watching NFL on Sundays is different than throwing accurately in the league.

    Funny Weeden played in the Big 12 too 🙄

    Zombo said:

    Yo, douchebag. You realize we drafted Brandon Weeden, not Michael Vick, right?

    Griffin is a fine prospect, but we got ourseselves a bigger, stronger QB AND the best running back prospect in years, so you might want to slow your roll.

    Zombo

    Yo douchebag. I doubt thatRobert-Griffin-III.jpg

    And Trent isn't nearly as good as AP was coming out.

    @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    Weeden will fare better in the NFL than RG3.

    😕 We'll get a glimpse in week 14. When he doesn't have Blackmon to bail him out 10 times a game while breaking 5 tackles a reception to inflate his stats.

    @unsympathetic said:

    As for not getting Morgan and Garcon: Washington paid Garcon $42.5 million, Morgan $6M per season. Those numbers are insane. And by insane, I mean typical for Snyder: Massive cost, very minimal return. Just like the contracts for DeAngelo Hall and Albert Haynesworth. Of course Cleveland was interested.. at a much lower cost. The point isn't to simply get a player, the point is to get a player at the correct price point. For example, during next year's offseason, due to Cleveland's good use of the cap and Washington's inability to maneuver, the Browns could easily sign Orakpo as a free agent.

    HAHAHAHAHAAH NO. Garcon is only guaranteed 21.5 mil, which is on par with Stevie Johnson. Morgan's contract is a 5 year 12 mill contract but can be terminated after 2 years. He's guaranteed 7.5 mill the first 2 years and will get a signing bonus of 5 mill if he is still on the team after the 2 years. So no, we didn't overpay / We also has 40+ mil in cap before Goodell fucked us. And I doubt Orakpo or any other free agent would want to even consider going to Cleveland.

    Sorry for the long post but didn't like what i was seeing. Just my 2 cents.

    @quietpack said:

    Yo douchebag. I doubt thatRobert-Griffin-III.jpg

    And Trent isn't nearly as good as AP was coming out.

    What's up with you homos posting pictures of your QBs physique and muscles and shit? Washington is a metrosexual "Men's Health" kinda town isn't it?

    And Peterson was five years ago. I said "in years". Got anybody more recent?

    Zombo

  • Lmao to the Browns fan that said Weeden will be better than RG3. You guys are truly delusional. 😕 I can't argue with the Richardson pick, but HH false sense of insecurity lost him picks. And don't start bashing the skins FO/RG3. My left ass cheek he's too small. He's 3/8 of an inch shorter than Weeden and is slightly heavier. Add the fact that he will have a learning curve with being accompanied by the worst receivers in the NFL.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Throwing "accurately" against scrub Big 12 DB's that will be watching NFL on Sundays is different than throwing accurately in the league.

    Funny Weeden played in the Big 12 too 🙄

    Zombo said:

    Yo, douchebag. You realize we drafted Brandon Weeden, not Michael Vick, right?

    Griffin is a fine prospect, but we got ourseselves a bigger, stronger QB AND the best running back prospect in years, so you might want to slow your roll.

    Zombo

    Yo douchebag. I doubt thatRobert-Griffin-III.jpg

    And Trent isn't nearly as good as AP was coming out.

    @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    Weeden will fare better in the NFL than RG3.

    😕 We'll get a glimpse in week 14. When he doesn't have Blackmon to bail him out 10 times a game while breaking 5 tackles a reception to inflate his stats.

    @unsympathetic said:

    As for not getting Morgan and Garcon: Washington paid Garcon $42.5 million, Morgan $6M per season. Those numbers are insane. And by insane, I mean typical for Snyder: Massive cost, very minimal return. Just like the contracts for DeAngelo Hall and Albert Haynesworth. Of course Cleveland was interested.. at a much lower cost. The point isn't to simply get a player, the point is to get a player at the correct price point. For example, during next year's offseason, due to Cleveland's good use of the cap and Washington's inability to maneuver, the Browns could easily sign Orakpo as a free agent.

    HAHAHAHAHAAH NO. Garcon is only guaranteed 21.5 mil, which is on par with Stevie Johnson. Morgan's contract is a 5 year 12 mill contract but can be terminated after 2 years. He's guaranteed 7.5 mill the first 2 years and will get a signing bonus of 5 mill if he is still on the team after the 2 years. So no, we didn't overpay / We also has 40+ mil in cap before Goodell fucked us. And I doubt Orakpo or any other free agent would want to even consider going to Cleveland.

    Sorry for the long post but didn't like what i was seeing. Just my 2 cents.

    @quietpack said:

    Lmao to the Browns fan that said Weeden will be better than RG3. You guys are truly delusional. 😕 I can't argue with the Richardson pick, but HH false sense of insecurity lost him picks. And don't start bashing the skins FO/RG3. My left ass cheek he's too small. He's 3/8 of an inch shorter than Weeden and is slightly heavier. Add the fact that he will have a learning curve with being accompanied by the worst receivers in the NFL.

    Funny Weeden played in the Big 12 too 🙄

    Yo douchebag. I doubt thatRobert-Griffin-III.jpg

    And Trent isn't nearly as good as AP was coming out.

    😕 We'll get a glimpse in week 14. When he doesn't have Blackmon to bail him out 10 times a game while breaking 5 tackles a reception to inflate his stats.

    HAHAHAHAHAAH NO. Garcon is only guaranteed 21.5 mil, which is on par with Stevie Johnson. Morgan's contract is a 5 year 12 mill contract but can be terminated after 2 years. He's guaranteed 7.5 mill the first 2 years and will get a signing bonus of 5 mill if he is still on the team after the 2 years. So no, we didn't overpay / We also has 40+ mil in cap before Goodell fucked us. And I doubt Orakpo or any other free agent would want to even consider going to Cleveland.

    Sorry for the long post but didn't like what i was seeing. Just my 2 cents.

    You're trying way too hard to plead your case. Tone it down a little. 😆

  • @quietpack said:

    Lmao to the Browns fan that said Weeden will be better than RG3. You guys are truly delusional. 😕 I can't argue with the Richardson pick, but HH false sense of insecurity lost him picks. And don't start bashing the skins FO/RG3. My left ass cheek he's too small. He's 3/8 of an inch shorter than Weeden and is slightly heavier. Add the fact that he will have a learning curve with being accompanied by the worst receivers in the NFL.

    Funny Weeden played in the Big 12 too 🙄

    Yo douchebag. I doubt thatRobert-Griffin-III.jpg

    And Trent isn't nearly as good as AP was coming out.

    😕 We'll get a glimpse in week 14. When he doesn't have Blackmon to bail him out 10 times a game while breaking 5 tackles a reception to inflate his stats.

    HAHAHAHAHAAH NO. Garcon is only guaranteed 21.5 mil, which is on par with Stevie Johnson. Morgan's contract is a 5 year 12 mill contract but can be terminated after 2 years. He's guaranteed 7.5 mill the first 2 years and will get a signing bonus of 5 mill if he is still on the team after the 2 years. So no, we didn't overpay / We also has 40+ mil in cap before Goodell fucked us. And I doubt Orakpo or any other free agent would want to even consider going to Cleveland.

    Sorry for the long post but didn't like what i was seeing. Just my 2 cents.

    You're trying way too hard to plead your case. Tone it down a little. 😆

    @bills-n-browns-fan said:

    You're trying way too hard to plead your case. Tone it down a little. 😆

    Well that was my first post on this thread sooo...

    Just adding my "insight" lol

  • Oh, and btw whats up with all these Skins fans trollin' our board.

  • You suck at bragging.....

    Really bad...like.

  • Washington, D.C. has a very high incidence of AID's, now you know why.

  • @theraven said:

    Dude, this is so old it's pathetic. Expecially coming from someone who comes from Baltimore, the Shit capital of the USA

  • @theraven said:

    Dude, this is so old it's pathetic. Expecially coming from someone who comes from Baltimore, the Shit capital of the USA

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Dude, this is so old it's pathetic. Expecially coming from someone who comes from Baltimore, the Shit capital of the USA

    I live in Columbia, MD dipshit. Ironic someone from Cleveland would talk shit about DC or Baltimore though.

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Dude, this is so old it's pathetic. Expecially coming from someone who comes from Baltimore, the Shit capital of the USA

    I live in Columbia, MD dipshit. Ironic someone from Cleveland would talk shit about DC or Baltimore though.

    @theraven said:

    I live in Columbia, MD dipshit. Ironic someone from Cleveland would talk shit about DC or Baltimore though.

    Now Ravens fans are trolling our boards. WTF!

  • One shouldn't throw stones if they live in a glass house with the "Dan Snyder overspends" stuff...

    Jeff Garcia, Andre Rison, Donte Stallworth, Jake Delhomme, Willie McGinest, trading a second and fourth round pick to Dallas to draft Brady Quinn, sending a second round pick to the Packers for Corey Williams and signing him to a 6-year, $38.6 million dollar deal, then trading him to Detroit after giving Detroit a fifth in addition to a 7th...

    @nlc1054 said:

    One shouldn't throw stones if they live in a glass house with the "Dan Snyder overspends" stuff...

    Jeff Garcia, Andre Rison, Donte Stallworth, Jake Delhomme, Willie McGinest, trading a second and fourth round pick to Dallas to draft Brady Quinn, sending a second round pick to the Packers for Corey Williams and signing him to a 6-year, $38.6 million dollar deal, then trading him to Detroit after giving Detroit a fifth in addition to a 7th...

    I'm sorry, but as far as terrible personnel moves go the signing of Albert Haynesworth trumps any of the Browns' signings/trades you've mentioned by far. Lerner would have to publicly execute a litter of kittens to match the level of stupidity displayed by Synder with the Haynesworth signing. And guess what - because of your team mortgaged vital picks over the next few years to move up 4 draft selections for RG3 you'll be playing the same free agent game that you are used to trying to acquire him talent to make a legitimate contender. Good luck with that.

    @theraven said:

    Thanks for pointing out that people who live in Northeast Ohio have a sense of humor. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything.

  • These douchebags are the reason I refuse to tell people that I like the Redskins.

  • These douchebags are the reason I refuse to tell people that I like the Redskins.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    These douchebags are the reason I refuse to tell people that I like the Redskins.

    People outside of Washington like the Redskins?

  • one of my best friends is a 'dual' conference fag, i mean fan. he likes the steelers and the skins. blech.

    but seriously. people are arguing over who's going to be the best when not one of anyone's picks of this year have taken a snap in a real NFL game? c'mon man. who cares what fatman holmgren says. we already know he's a fuckin liar.

    the nfl has to start doing something in the offseason to keep this shit under control. it's june and i'm already feverishly biting off my fingernails and howling at the moon.

    i need a drink!

  • @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Dude, this is so old it's pathetic. Expecially coming from someone who comes from Baltimore, the Shit capital of the USA

    I live in Columbia, MD dipshit. Ironic someone from Cleveland would talk shit about DC or Baltimore though.

    @theraven said:

    I live in Columbia, MD dipshit. Ironic someone from Cleveland would talk shit about DC or Baltimore though.

    Because ..... ???

    Not from either. Been to both plenty. Cleveland is a much nicer city. Baltimore is a shithole. Washington speaks for itself.

    Zombo