Case Mccoy
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": RT @CaseMcCoy6 Good luck Brandon! Fan of you, but my brother's pulling the lucky straw on this one! Cleveland is only going downhill!"
What a dickfart. It must suck to be the weaker armed of the Noodles Bros.
": RT @CaseMcCoy6 Good luck Brandon! Fan of you, but my brother's pulling the lucky straw on this one! Cleveland is only going downhill!"
What a dickfart. It must suck to be the weaker armed of the Noodles Bros.
Agreed but I will say that Case McCoy made that statement because he was led to believe Colt was just traded. Basically he believed a rumor and lashed out at Cleveland because of it..
I would still trade Wallace over McCoy unless the Browns could somehow get a better deal for McCoy (and that's doubtful).
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it's about family. sure most of you think the guy sucks and should be traded but you gotta admit they have fucked with this kid since his concussion. first the dad points out how the FO defended the trainer or some horseshit to do with putting him back in the game and now the fact that they said they wouldn't draft a qb in the first round.
i would have said the same thing but would have flamed H&H a lot worse than case did.
i'm telling you you can't trust that fat old prick holmgren. one day everyone will wake up and see what a condescending snake the guy really is.
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It's like the people in that family just can not fathom that McCoy is not a good NFL QB. Your family isn't made of gods and there were better College QB's who have failed in the NFL.
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It's like the people in that family just can not fathom that McCoy is not a good NFL QB. Your family isn't made of gods and there were better College QB's who have failed in the NFL.
It's like the people in that family just can not fathom that McCoy is not a good NFL QB. Your family isn't made of gods and there were better College QB's who have failed in the NFL.
Not that I don't disagree with the sentiment of this post... but There weren't very many QB's in College better than Colt.
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the king is dead..
what king, douche? there hasn't been one player on this team in years besides joe thomas that could be called 'king' of their position.
you're just another none caring mfer that lives in the moment. let's see if the new 'king' (at qb) can live up to his billing. if not, there'll be a lot of sad bitches getting tongue lashed by realistic fans like me.
who's got the better record right now as an nfl qb....weeden or mccoy?
yep. and all you other little flippin pieces of shit who think mccoy should be traded but keep wallace are out of your flippin minds.
go shit in a hat.
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the king is dead..
what king, douche? there hasn't been one player on this team in years besides joe thomas that could be called 'king' of their position.
you're just another none caring mfer that lives in the moment. let's see if the new 'king' (at qb) can live up to his billing. if not, there'll be a lot of sad bitches getting tongue lashed by realistic fans like me.
who's got the better record right now as an nfl qb....weeden or mccoy?
yep. and all you other little flippin pieces of shit who think mccoy should be traded but keep wallace are out of your flippin minds.
go shit in a hat.
what king, douche? there hasn't been one player on this team in years besides joe thomas that could be called 'king' of their position.
you're just another none caring mfer that lives in the moment. let's see if the new 'king' (at qb) can live up to his billing. if not, there'll be a lot of sad bitches getting tongue lashed by realistic fans like me.
who's got the better record right now as an nfl qb....weeden or mccoy?
yep. and all you other little flippin pieces of shit who think mccoy should be traded but keep wallace are out of your flippin minds.
go shit in a hat.
Who's got a better NFL record right now: Luck or Leaf?
Then I guess that means Indy should be giving the prisons a call, trying to find their new starting QB.
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@mike-h said:
That's like a triple negative, woah.
But yeah, Colt = winningest college QB ever...
More of this dude talking out of his ass as usual
1: not the most winningest QB in the NCAA anymore, you would think a "journalist" would know that.
2: there are other factors that are included into what makes a great college QB. Wins obviously but also national championships and heismans. Colt won games but he never won the big game and he never won the heisman. Just off the top of my head without thinking too much about it I would call both Leinhart and Tebow better college QBs.
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the king is dead..
what king, douche? there hasn't been one player on this team in years besides joe thomas that could be called 'king' of their position.
you're just another none caring mfer that lives in the moment. let's see if the new 'king' (at qb) can live up to his billing. if not, there'll be a lot of sad bitches getting tongue lashed by realistic fans like me.
who's got the better record right now as an nfl qb....weeden or mccoy?
yep. and all you other little flippin pieces of shit who think mccoy should be traded but keep wallace are out of your flippin minds.
go shit in a hat.
what king, douche? there hasn't been one player on this team in years besides joe thomas that could be called 'king' of their position.
you're just another none caring mfer that lives in the moment. let's see if the new 'king' (at qb) can live up to his billing. if not, there'll be a lot of sad bitches getting tongue lashed by realistic fans like me.
who's got the better record right now as an nfl qb....weeden or mccoy?
yep. and all you other little flippin pieces of shit who think mccoy should be traded but keep wallace are out of your flippin minds.
go shit in a hat.
Rodney king duh!
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the king is dead..
what king, douche? there hasn't been one player on this team in years besides joe thomas that could be called 'king' of their position.
you're just another none caring mfer that lives in the moment. let's see if the new 'king' (at qb) can live up to his billing. if not, there'll be a lot of sad bitches getting tongue lashed by realistic fans like me.
who's got the better record right now as an nfl qb....weeden or mccoy?
yep. and all you other little flippin pieces of shit who think mccoy should be traded but keep wallace are out of your flippin minds.
go shit in a hat.
what king, douche? there hasn't been one player on this team in years besides joe thomas that could be called 'king' of their position.
you're just another none caring mfer that lives in the moment. let's see if the new 'king' (at qb) can live up to his billing. if not, there'll be a lot of sad bitches getting tongue lashed by realistic fans like me.
who's got the better record right now as an nfl qb....weeden or mccoy?
yep. and all you other little flippin pieces of shit who think mccoy should be traded but keep wallace are out of your flippin minds.
go shit in a hat.
drink much?? mix in some water..
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@mike-h said:
That's like a triple negative, woah.
But yeah, Colt = winningest college QB ever...
More of this dude talking out of his ass as usual
1: not the most winningest QB in the NCAA anymore, you would think a "journalist" would know that.
2: there are other factors that are included into what makes a great college QB. Wins obviously but also national championships and heismans. Colt won games but he never won the big game and he never won the heisman. Just off the top of my head without thinking too much about it I would call both Leinhart and Tebow better college QBs.
1: not the most winningest QB in the NCAA anymore, you would think a "journalist" would know that.
2: there are other factors that are included into what makes a great college QB. Wins obviously but also national championships and heismans. Colt won games but he never won the big game and he never won the heisman. Just off the top of my head without thinking too much about it I would call both Leinhart and Tebow better college QBs.
Winning National Championships a Heisman's are also far from credentials that make you a quality NFL QB.
Cam Newton may be the first Heisman/National Champ QB to become a decent NFL QB in like 25 years.
Just off the top of my head you have the Gino Torreta's/Chris Weinke's/Jason Whites/Tebows/Leinerts/Danny Weurffels/Charlie Wards/Eric Crouch, all Heisman winners...most if not all won national championships.....none worth much of a damn as an NFL QB. Hell, right now Tebow looks better than any of the rest with his one playoff win.
The only other Heisman/title winning QB to do much has been Carson Palmer, and honestly, he has been a bit of a disappointment overall....though some of that can be attributed to the hit he took in that playoff game vs. the Steelers.
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Heisman winning RBs have not faired much better. Since 1990, only Eddie George I believed can be called a completely successful NFL RB Heisman winner. Aside from him you have had Ricky Williams, Ron Dayne, Reggie Bush and Mark Ingram Jr. Spotty records at best.
Maybe its a good thing that TR didn't win the Heisman for the Browns sake.
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1: not the most winningest QB in the NCAA anymore, you would think a "journalist" would know that.
2: there are other factors that are included into what makes a great college QB. Wins obviously but also national championships and heismans. Colt won games but he never won the big game and he never won the heisman. Just off the top of my head without thinking too much about it I would call both Leinhart and Tebow better college QBs.
Winning National Championships a Heisman's are also far from credentials that make you a quality NFL QB.
Cam Newton may be the first Heisman/National Champ QB to become a decent NFL QB in like 25 years.
Just off the top of my head you have the Gino Torreta's/Chris Weinke's/Jason Whites/Tebows/Leinerts/Danny Weurffels/Charlie Wards/Eric Crouch, all Heisman winners...most if not all won national championships.....none worth much of a damn as an NFL QB. Hell, right now Tebow looks better than any of the rest with his one playoff win.
The only other Heisman/title winning QB to do much has been Carson Palmer, and honestly, he has been a bit of a disappointment overall....though some of that can be attributed to the hit he took in that playoff game vs. the Steelers.
Winning National Championships a Heisman's are also far from credentials that make you a quality NFL QB.
Cam Newton may be the first Heisman/National Champ QB to become a decent NFL QB in like 25 years.
Just off the top of my head you have the Gino Torreta's/Chris Weinke's/Jason Whites/Tebows/Leinerts/Danny Weurffels/Charlie Wards/Eric Crouch, all Heisman winners...most if not all won national championships.....none worth much of a damn as an NFL QB. Hell, right now Tebow looks better than any of the rest with his one playoff win.
The only other Heisman/title winning QB to do much has been Carson Palmer, and honestly, he has been a bit of a disappointment overall....though some of that can be attributed to the hit he took in that playoff game vs. the Steelers.
Agreed, I just include those factors into what makes a great college QB. All factors considered I would consider most of those QB's you mentioned to be better college QB's than Colt. That doesn't mean he wasn't a great college QB, but he was no where near the best.
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Winning National Championships a Heisman's are also far from credentials that make you a quality NFL QB.
Cam Newton may be the first Heisman/National Champ QB to become a decent NFL QB in like 25 years.
Just off the top of my head you have the Gino Torreta's/Chris Weinke's/Jason Whites/Tebows/Leinerts/Danny Weurffels/Charlie Wards/Eric Crouch, all Heisman winners...most if not all won national championships.....none worth much of a damn as an NFL QB. Hell, right now Tebow looks better than any of the rest with his one playoff win.
The only other Heisman/title winning QB to do much has been Carson Palmer, and honestly, he has been a bit of a disappointment overall....though some of that can be attributed to the hit he took in that playoff game vs. the Steelers.
Agreed, I just include those factors into what makes a great college QB. All factors considered I would consider most of those QB's you mentioned to be better college QB's than Colt. That doesn't mean he wasn't a great college QB, but he was no where near the best.
Agreed, I just include those factors into what makes a great college QB. All factors considered I would consider most of those QB's you mentioned to be better college QB's than Colt. That doesn't mean he wasn't a great college QB, but he was no where near the best.
I don't know if I would consider most or any of those better college QBs than McCoy. The best college QB doesn't always win the Heisman I don't think. Here is a list of the QBs that took the runnerup spot in the Heisman voting since 1990, that did not at some point also win a Heisman:
Andrew Luck twice
Colt McCoy
Brad Banks
Rex Grossman
Josh Heupel
Vince Young
Joe Hamilton
Michael Bishop
Peyton Manning
Tommy Frazier
Heath Shuler
Casey Weldon
Here is the list of QBs who finished third in Heisman voting who did not later win a trophy:
Colt McCoy
Colt Brennan
Brady Quinn
Eli Manning
Ken Dorsey
Drew Brees
Michael Vick
Cade McNown
Ryan Leaf
Jake Plummer
Steve McNair
It looks like taking 3rd in the Heisman race and playing QB for the Cleveland Browns is not a very good combination (McCoy, Quinn,Dorsey)
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Here is the list of "near winners" in the Heisman race (2d or 3rd place)to have made the PFHOF:
Sid Luckman 3rd
Otto Graham 3rd
Chuck Bednarik 3rd
Tommy McDonald 3rd
Bobby Bell 3rd
Dick Butkus 3rd
Bob Griese 2d
John Elway 2d
Eric Dickerson 3rd
Steve Young 2d
Troy Aikman 3rd
And just as a reminder these are the Heisman winners that are in the PFHOF:
Paul Hornung
Roger Staubach
OJ Simpson
Tony Dorsett
Earl Campbell
Marcus Allen
Barry Sanders
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I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows the cop who worked with the cop that arrested Kordell Stewart...er, wrong story.
Anyways, I would trade you one noodle arm Colt McCoy plus a conditional 7th round draft pick for one rocket arm but highly immobile QB named Byron Leftwich. I've got Colbert on hold, so hook me up with H or H and let's get this deal done.
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I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows the cop who worked with the cop that arrested Kordell Stewart...er, wrong story.
Anyways, I would trade you one noodle arm Colt McCoy plus a conditional 7th round draft pick for one rocket arm but highly immobile QB named Byron Leftwich. I've got Colbert on hold, so hook me up with H or H and let's get this deal done.
Endymion said:
I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows the cop who worked with the cop that arrested Kordell Stewart...er, wrong story.
Anyways, I would trade you one noodle arm Colt McCoy plus a conditional 7th round draft pick for one rocket arm but highly immobile QB named Byron Leftwich. I've got Colbert on hold, so hook me up with H or H and let's get this deal done.
Tell you what....take Seneca Wallace instead and you got a deal.
The fact is, if the Browns are going to make the decision to dump McCoy, I think they should also dump Wallace. He is about worthless in my eyes.
Believe it or not the guy that I wouldn't mind seeing the Browns bring in to be Weeden't mentor/backup is Donovan McNabb. I don't believe he has a team, nor has he expressed an interest in retiring. And certainly he knows Heckert/Shurmur/Childress and their system.
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