Josh Gordon
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And just like that, Mohamed Massaquoi just got moved to slot receiver.
And just like that, Mohamed Massaquoi just got moved to slot receiver.
Or, off the roster completely?
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The only thing I'm worried about, is our luck on WR's in the 2nd round.
We keep drafting more WR's in the 2nd round to replace past 2nd round WR failures.
I think we've had like 7 to 9 2nd round WR's and so far none have panned out (Little is still pending).
Johnson,
Northcutt
Q
Davis
Robiskie
Massaquoi
Anyone name any other 2nd round WR's we've failed on?
The only thing I'm worried about, is our luck on WR's in the 2nd round.
We keep drafting more WR's in the 2nd round to replace past 2nd round WR failures.
I think we've had like 7 to 9 2nd round WR's and so far none have panned out (Little is still pending).
Johnson,
Northcutt
Q
Davis
Robiskie
Massaquoi
Anyone name any other 2nd round WR's we've failed on?
Yes, there are others. WRs Browns have taken over the years in the second round:
1983 Ron Brown (didn't do much for Browns, but played well for years with the Rams)
1984 Bruce Davis
1986 Webster Slaughter
1989 Lawyer Tillman
1992 Patrick Rowe
1999 KJ
2000 Northcutt
2001 Andre Davis
2002 Quincy Morgan
2009 Robo and MoMass
2011 Greg Little
Not a stellar record, no. Slaughter was the best. KJ and Northcutt pretty good. A. Davis: so so. Some busts here.
Hopefully Little reaches Slaughter range. And Gordon too.
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Here is where we need the old "Like" button. In the words of Boss Nazz: "Meesa liking dis."
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OK The Browns have "tied the Gordian Knot". Let's just hope it doesn't unravel.
My question is: how would Gordon rate against those WRs who are presumed to be the cream of the crop in next years draft?
Guys like:
Robert Woods
Keenan Allen
Justin Hunter
Terence William (Baylor!)
Marquess Wilson
Some of you may have done more "scouting" on these guys than I. How does "Flash" Gordon compare?
By the way, the "Gordian Knot" metaphor is very applicable here:
The Gordian Knot is a legend of Phrygian Gordium associated with Alexander the Great. It is often used as a metaphor for an intractable problem solved easily by cheating or "thinking outside the box". ("cutting the Gordian knot"):
"Turn him to any cause of policy,
The Gordian Knot of it he will unloose,
Familiar as his garter" (Shakespeare, Henry V, Act 1 Scene 1. 4547)
(or is this tantamount to Heckert playing Kirk by beating the Kobayashi Maru scenario?)
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we got a potential 1st round talent for a 2nd rounder.
we got a potential disaster for a second rounder. see how that works? "potential"...."talent"....at the small, small price of a second rounder, ya know...the picks where guys normally start right away when taken in the regular draft. but since its the supplemental, its OK to take raw projects? where do you draw the line?
anyone have a video of this kid catching a pass on anything other than a 9 route? cause all i see in those videos is a big kid that uses his size advantage over smaller corners. his game is so limited.....and most every post ive read from browns fans Re: gordon believe this kid is gonna waltz right in here and become a #1 WR.....its so fucking funny its laughable, how the masses so blindly believe that all one requires is measureables. nevermind the years of instruction its gonna take to get this kid on the field since he's only....ya know...played one season.
sorry if im not lying to myself to gush like a schoolgirl about this kid.....but i expect so much less from him than the rest of you. he nothing more than a completely raw prospect with a big frame.....while i feel the cost was way too steep, i'd rather youth over the vet WR everyone so wanted. this isn't a worst case scenario for me. i just find the new plethora of "browns new high powered offense" posts all over the boards after the we got gordon humorous, and similarly embarrassing.
we got a potential disaster for a second rounder. see how that works? "potential"...."talent"....at the small, small price of a second rounder, ya know...the picks where guys normally start right away when taken in the regular draft. but since its the supplemental, its OK to take raw projects? where do you draw the line?
anyone have a video of this kid catching a pass on anything other than a 9 route? cause all i see in those videos is a big kid that uses his size advantage over smaller corners. his game is so limited.....and most every post ive read from browns fans Re: gordon believe this kid is gonna waltz right in here and become a #1 WR.....its so fucking funny its laughable, how the masses so blindly believe that all one requires is measureables. nevermind the years of instruction its gonna take to get this kid on the field since he's only....ya know...played one season.
sorry if im not lying to myself to gush like a schoolgirl about this kid.....but i expect so much less from him than the rest of you. he nothing more than a completely raw prospect with a big frame.....while i feel the cost was way too steep, i'd rather youth over the vet WR everyone so wanted. this isn't a worst case scenario for me. i just find the new plethora of "browns new high powered offense" posts all over the boards after the we got gordon humorous, and similarly embarrassing.
Yeah because I haven't seen Greg Little on the field once yet, be ause if his...you know...one season of playing.
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
The only thing I'm worried about, is our luck on WR's in the 2nd round.
We keep drafting more WR's in the 2nd round to replace past 2nd round WR failures.
I think we've had like 7 to 9 2nd round WR's and so far none have panned out (Little is still pending).
Johnson,
Northcutt
Q
Davis
Robiskie
Massaquoi
Anyone name any other 2nd round WR's we've failed on?
Yes, there are others. WRs Browns have taken over the years in the second round:
1983 Ron Brown (didn't do much for Browns, but played well for years with the Rams)
1984 Bruce Davis
1986 Webster Slaughter
1989 Lawyer Tillman
1992 Patrick Rowe
1999 KJ
2000 Northcutt
2001 Andre Davis
2002 Quincy Morgan
2009 Robo and MoMass
2011 Greg Little
Not a stellar record, no. Slaughter was the best. KJ and Northcutt pretty good. A. Davis: so so. Some busts here.
Hopefully Little reaches Slaughter range. And Gordon too.
Yes, there are others. WRs Browns have taken over the years in the second round:
1983 Ron Brown (didn't do much for Browns, but played well for years with the Rams)
1984 Bruce Davis
1986 Webster Slaughter
1989 Lawyer Tillman
1992 Patrick Rowe
1999 KJ
2000 Northcutt
2001 Andre Davis
2002 Quincy Morgan
2009 Robo and MoMass
2011 Greg Little
Not a stellar record, no. Slaughter was the best. KJ and Northcutt pretty good. A. Davis: so so. Some busts here.
Hopefully Little reaches Slaughter range. And Gordon too.
To supplement this, here are the WRs the Browns have taken in the First Round:
1962 Gary Collins
1964 Paul Warfield
1973 Steve Holden
1979 Willis Adams
1994 Derrick Alexander
2005 Braylon Edwards
There is not a lot of heart to take in this. The best WRs the Browns have ever drafted in the first or second rounds were the first two: Collins and Warfield. Then comes Slaughter, then comes Bo Diddley squat basically. Until now maybe? Wouldn't it be nice to see Greg Little and Josh Gordon become modern day Collins and Warfield?
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And just like that, Mohamed Massaquoi just got moved to slot receiver.
Or, off the roster completely?
Or, off the roster completely?
That's what I think, but I'm no expert. I have just seen NOTHING from Momass that excites me....no YAC, no great hands, no coming back to help the QB, etc......We'll see.
Mike
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Yes, there are others. WRs Browns have taken over the years in the second round:
1983 Ron Brown (didn't do much for Browns, but played well for years with the Rams)
1984 Bruce Davis
1986 Webster Slaughter
1989 Lawyer Tillman
1992 Patrick Rowe
1999 KJ
2000 Northcutt
2001 Andre Davis
2002 Quincy Morgan
2009 Robo and MoMass
2011 Greg Little
Not a stellar record, no. Slaughter was the best. KJ and Northcutt pretty good. A. Davis: so so. Some busts here.
Hopefully Little reaches Slaughter range. And Gordon too.
To supplement this, here are the WRs the Browns have taken in the First Round:
1962 Gary Collins
1964 Paul Warfield
1973 Steve Holden
1979 Willis Adams
1994 Derrick Alexander
2005 Braylon Edwards
There is not a lot of heart to take in this. The best WRs the Browns have ever drafted in the first or second rounds were the first two: Collins and Warfield. Then comes Slaughter, then comes Bo Diddley squat basically. Until now maybe? Wouldn't it be nice to see Greg Little and Josh Gordon become modern day Collins and Warfield?
To supplement this, here are the WRs the Browns have taken in the First Round:
1962 Gary Collins
1964 Paul Warfield
1973 Steve Holden
1979 Willis Adams
1994 Derrick Alexander
2005 Braylon Edwards
There is not a lot of heart to take in this. The best WRs the Browns have ever drafted in the first or second rounds were the first two: Collins and Warfield. Then comes Slaughter, then comes Bo Diddley squat basically. Until now maybe? Wouldn't it be nice to see Greg Little and Josh Gordon become modern day Collins and Warfield?
Trent Richardson become the modern day Jim Brown and Colt McCoy become the next Otto Graham. To those who don't know, Graham was also 6'1".
Please Browns, Bring BACK Brownie!!!
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Love the pick.I think Gordon will play well for us after a adjustment period, and our offense will drastically be improved by the moves we made this offseason. The loss of the second round pick for next year doesn't even bother me because for once free agents are going to WANT to come play in Cleveland with all of this young talent we have.
Oh wait a minute I almost forgot that shurmer is still the coach. We may still have to pray. LOL
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To supplement this, here are the WRs the Browns have taken in the First Round:
1962 Gary Collins
1964 Paul Warfield
1973 Steve Holden
1979 Willis Adams
1994 Derrick Alexander
2005 Braylon Edwards
There is not a lot of heart to take in this. The best WRs the Browns have ever drafted in the first or second rounds were the first two: Collins and Warfield. Then comes Slaughter, then comes Bo Diddley squat basically. Until now maybe? Wouldn't it be nice to see Greg Little and Josh Gordon become modern day Collins and Warfield?
Trent Richardson become the modern day Jim Brown and Colt McCoy become the next Otto Graham. To those who don't know, Graham was also 6'1".
Please Browns, Bring BACK Brownie!!!
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we got a potential disaster for a second rounder. see how that works? "potential"...."talent"....at the small, small price of a second rounder, ya know...the picks where guys normally start right away when taken in the regular draft. but since its the supplemental, its OK to take raw projects? where do you draw the line?
anyone have a video of this kid catching a pass on anything other than a 9 route? cause all i see in those videos is a big kid that uses his size advantage over smaller corners. his game is so limited.....and most every post ive read from browns fans Re: gordon believe this kid is gonna waltz right in here and become a #1 WR.....its so fucking funny its laughable, how the masses so blindly believe that all one requires is measureables. nevermind the years of instruction its gonna take to get this kid on the field since he's only....ya know...played one season.
sorry if im not lying to myself to gush like a schoolgirl about this kid.....but i expect so much less from him than the rest of you. he nothing more than a completely raw prospect with a big frame.....while i feel the cost was way too steep, i'd rather youth over the vet WR everyone so wanted. this isn't a worst case scenario for me. i just find the new plethora of "browns new high powered offense" posts all over the boards after the we got gordon humorous, and similarly embarrassing.
Yeah because I haven't seen Greg Little on the field once yet, be ause if his...you know...one season of playing.
Yeah because I haven't seen Greg Little on the field once yet, be ause if his...you know...one season of playing.
Been reading up....and willingly concede. In reading what really happened to gordon, this could be just the kid we've been looking for. A grateful braylon with good hands.
Slotting only matters for busts. No risk...no reward. Lets hope im right about being wrong
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Here is where we need the old "Like" button. In the words of Boss Nazz: "Meesa liking dis."
Here is where we need the old "Like" button. In the words of Boss Nazz: "Meesa liking dis."
The thing I like about the play is the way he caught the ball. He reached out and grabbed it. It's great he went 94 yards but part of that is plain ole luck.
I think he is going to be a good player and playing way sooner than some people think. He has missed some time, but we have enough coaches someone can spend some extra time each day and get him up to speed.
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The only thing I'm worried about, is our luck on WR's in the 2nd round.
We keep drafting more WR's in the 2nd round to replace past 2nd round WR failures.
I think we've had like 7 to 9 2nd round WR's and so far none have panned out (Little is still pending).
Johnson,
Northcutt
Q
Davis
Robiskie
Massaquoi
Anyone name any other 2nd round WR's we've failed on?
The only thing I'm worried about, is our luck on WR's in the 2nd round.
We keep drafting more WR's in the 2nd round to replace past 2nd round WR failures.
I think we've had like 7 to 9 2nd round WR's and so far none have panned out (Little is still pending).
Johnson,
Northcutt
Q
Davis
Robiskie
Massaquoi
Anyone name any other 2nd round WR's we've failed on?
These are all PAST front offices...lets not forget that. I'd say G. Little will be the first 2nd round WR hit for the current front office. Mark it down.
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The only thing I'm worried about, is our luck on WR's in the 2nd round.
We keep drafting more WR's in the 2nd round to replace past 2nd round WR failures.
I think we've had like 7 to 9 2nd round WR's and so far none have panned out (Little is still pending).
Johnson,
Northcutt
Q
Davis
Robiskie
Massaquoi
Anyone name any other 2nd round WR's we've failed on?
The only thing I'm worried about, is our luck on WR's in the 2nd round.
We keep drafting more WR's in the 2nd round to replace past 2nd round WR failures.
I think we've had like 7 to 9 2nd round WR's and so far none have panned out (Little is still pending).
Johnson,
Northcutt
Q
Davis
Robiskie
Massaquoi
Anyone name any other 2nd round WR's we've failed on?
Webster f'n slaughter
Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind... -
He practiced all season with Utah. He just didn't get to play on Saturday's.
So his transition shouldn't be as big as Little's last year, and we all seen what he was capable of.
I think he'll get playing time from day one, probably won't start right away but he'll see the field.
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He will definitely start right away. If we had an early bye week like we did last year, he'd probably start right after the bye week like Greg Little did. That being said, there is almost a 0% chance Gordon starts week 1 unless he comes right in and absolutely cruses it. But there is also almost a 100% chance he plays in week 1. I think I said somewhere here or maybe to a friend that I think he'll be starting next to Little at the absolute latest between Weeks 5-7.
I'm pretty excited about this.
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He's not going to start the season unless people get hurt. He'll get his time and just like Little last year, it will increase weekly, and then at some point the grand announcement will come he is the starter.
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The only thing I'm worried about, is our luck on WR's in the 2nd round.
We keep drafting more WR's in the 2nd round to replace past 2nd round WR failures.
I think we've had like 7 to 9 2nd round WR's and so far none have panned out (Little is still pending).
Johnson,
Northcutt
Q
Davis
Robiskie
Massaquoi
Anyone name any other 2nd round WR's we've failed on?
Webster f'n slaughter
Webster f'n slaughter
I wouldn't say he was a failure. I forgot he was 2nd round though. Was that the year we didn't have a 1st rounder because of Kosar?
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Ballsy move... As a outside unbiased fan.. Right now... Giving up a 2nd round pick for a raw guy that probably wont be ready to really play until 2 years from now... Now if Gordon develops into what his measurable say he could be.. In the furture this could be a really good draft pick...
This is a pure potential driven pick... In the high rounds (1st and 2nd round) ... Those picks scare me especially for a rebuilding team....
As of now i think its a solid pickup.. It could go either way.
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Ballsy move... As a outside unbiased fan.. Right now... Giving up a 2nd round pick for a raw guy that probably wont be ready to really play until 2 years from now... Now if Gordon develops into what his measurable say he could be.. In the furture this could be a really good draft pick...
This is a pure potential driven pick... In the high rounds (1st and 2nd round) ... Those picks scare me especially for a rebuilding team....
As of now i think its a solid pickup.. It could go either way.
Ballsy move... As a outside unbiased fan.. Right now... Giving up a 2nd round pick for a raw guy that probably wont be ready to really play until 2 years from now... Now if Gordon develops into what his measurable say he could be.. In the furture this could be a really good draft pick...
This is a pure potential driven pick... In the high rounds (1st and 2nd round) ... Those picks scare me especially for a rebuilding team....
As of now i think its a solid pickup.. It could go either way.
Heckert did his homework on the kid. We'll find out if he's right. From those two clips he sort of reminds me of Plaxico Burris. I hope he's smart enough to not shoot himself in the leg at a bar.
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