New Spew Thread About Colt Mccoy
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The Cleveland Browns drafted Brandon Weeden to play the role of a big-armed, franchise quarterback on a team that's gone without one for decades.
It's evident where this leaves Colt McCoy in the equation -- a trade feels imminent -- but the team has said repeatedly that last year's starter will be given a chance to compete for the job. McCoy, on Friday, didn't sound so sure.
"We'll see, I don't know," McCoy told KXAN-TV at his annual football camp in Austin, Texas. "There are a lot of things I can control and I'm controlling those things. The things beyond that I try to do my best to not worry about those and go out there and do what I do on the field, that's the most important thing. Beyond that, I can't do anything else."
McCoy is next in a long line of young quarterbacks to toil under an organization continually in search of itself. Entering his third season in the league, he's worked with two head coaches, a pair of offensive coordinators and one of the least impressive receiver groups in the NFL. Throw in the lockout for good measure, and few young quarterbacks would flourish in that environment.
From another angle, team president Mike Holmgren -- who knows a little something about the quarterback position -- has been tasked with turning this franchise around. He's two seasons in, with nine wins to show for it, meaning his search for a signal-caller presses on. Until one is found, preventing hurt feelings aren't a top priority in Cleveland.
It sounds to me like he's really handling the press rather well...more Browns fans DRAMA...surprising...
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He also implies in that article that he wants to be with the browns even as a backup, and that he wants to be along for the ride.
I don't think colt as a backup is going to be a problem. Is sure as hell rather have him backing weeden up than seneca.
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He also implies in that article that he wants to be with the browns even as a backup, and that he wants to be along for the ride.
I don't think colt as a backup is going to be a problem. Is sure as hell rather have him backing weeden up than seneca.
He also implies in that article that he wants to be with the browns even as a backup, and that he wants to be along for the ride.
I don't think colt as a backup is going to be a problem. Is sure as hell rather have him backing weeden up than seneca.
^+1. The Browns could do a lot worse than McCoy as the backup QB.
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He also implies in that article that he wants to be with the browns even as a backup, and that he wants to be along for the ride.
I don't think colt as a backup is going to be a problem. Is sure as hell rather have him backing weeden up than seneca.
^+1. The Browns could do a lot worse than McCoy as the backup QB.
^+1. The Browns could do a lot worse than McCoy as the backup QB.
Yeah, their backup could be Seneca Wallace
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I am a visiting Redskins fan.
I'm just curious about how Browns fans feel about Colt McCoy and Mike Holmgren.
From the outside looking in it seems like McCoy had potential but only produced to the level of the talent around and scheme around him.
And thanks to Holmgren/Shurmur the talent and the coaching wasn't very good.
And now it seems like they're tieing their lack of success around Colt McCoy's neck to shift the blame away from themselves.
I find the differing perceptions between Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford interesting.
Other then McCoy playing in a much more difficult division their career production this far has been similar if not identical.
Yet McCoy is getting the axe as a starter and Bradford is entering this seasonn as the unquestioned starter.
Must be good to be a 1st round pick and benefit from being perceived as a franchise QB.
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The difference is Bradford has the ideal arm and size for the nfl..
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bradford had some of the same problems surrounding him that mccoy had last year. no protection and no talent (other than steven jackson) .
hell i couldn't even tell you who the ram's #1 receiver is, just like i doubt anyone could tell you the name of the browns #1.
all i know is that under the guidance of pat shurmur neither progressed. instead they regressed.
holmgren is just a FOM (fat old man) collecting a paycheck and bringing along some of his friends for a ride.
i know he means the best for the team but he is set in his old ways and won't change for nuthin. and the thing with drafting a qb every year bugs the piss out of me.
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no. pissed off.
don't worry choco we'll all be shiny happy people at the end of the year, just like you are today.
i guess in your world no one is held accountable for anything. must be nice.
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bradford had some of the same problems surrounding him that mccoy had last year. no protection and no talent (other than steven jackson) .
hell i couldn't even tell you who the ram's #1 receiver is, just like i doubt anyone could tell you the name of the browns #1.
all i know is that under the guidance of pat shurmur neither progressed. instead they regressed.
holmgren is just a FOM (fat old man) collecting a paycheck and bringing along some of his friends for a ride.
i know he means the best for the team but he is set in his old ways and won't change for nuthin. and the thing with drafting a qb every year bugs the piss out of me.
bradford had some of the same problems surrounding him that mccoy had last year. no protection and no talent (other than steven jackson) .
hell i couldn't even tell you who the ram's #1 receiver is, just like i doubt anyone could tell you the name of the browns #1.
all i know is that under the guidance of pat shurmur neither progressed. instead they regressed.
holmgren is just a FOM (fat old man) collecting a paycheck and bringing along some of his friends for a ride.
i know he means the best for the team but he is set in his old ways and won't change for nuthin. and the thing with drafting a qb every year bugs the piss out of me.
You got it wrong Mik. He is not a FOM. He is a FORM (FAT OLD RICH MAN).
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So, if McCoy had what you perceive to be ideal arm and nfl size you would be okay with not drafting Weeden and keeping him as your starter?The difference is Bradford has the ideal arm and size for the nfl..
Also, if Bradford has the ideal arm and size why hasn't he been significantly more productive then McCoy thus far in their careers?
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I am a visiting Redskins fan.
I'm just curious about how Browns fans feel about Colt McCoy and Mike Holmgren.
From the outside looking in it seems like McCoy had potential but only produced to the level of the talent around and scheme around him.
And thanks to Holmgren/Shurmur the talent and the coaching wasn't very good.
And now it seems like they're tieing their lack of success around Colt McCoy's neck to shift the blame away from themselves.
I find the differing perceptions between Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford interesting.
Other then McCoy playing in a much more difficult division their career production this far has been similar if not identical.
Yet McCoy is getting the axe as a starter and Bradford is entering this seasonn as the unquestioned starter.
Must be good to be a 1st round pick and benefit from being perceived as a franchise QB.
I am a visiting Redskins fan.
I'm just curious about how Browns fans feel about Colt McCoy and Mike Holmgren.
From the outside looking in it seems like McCoy had potential but only produced to the level of the talent around and scheme around him.
And thanks to Holmgren/Shurmur the talent and the coaching wasn't very good.
And now it seems like they're tieing their lack of success around Colt McCoy's neck to shift the blame away from themselves.
Well, the powers that be, Holmgren and Shurmur are loathe to blame themselves for their failures to provide talent to this team, thus they must find a scapegoat in McCoy....not that McCoy didn't give them ammo to use himself as the scapegoat. I personally put the blame 75/25, the 75 on Shurmur/H&H, half of the rest on McCoy, the other half on other offensive players.
Maybe Brandon Weeden will be much superior to Colt...he will need to be, because if they have another do nothing offense, then who will get the blame? A rookie QB/RB or the coach/GM/Pres.
I find the differing perceptions between Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford interesting.
Other then McCoy playing in a much more difficult division their career production this far has been similar if not identical.
Yet McCoy is getting the axe as a starter and Bradford is entering this seasonn as the unquestioned starter.
Must be good to be a 1st round pick and benefit from being perceived as a franchise QB.
Yes, I agree that quite frankly, there is little else to differentiate them.
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So, if McCoy had what you perceive to be ideal arm and nfl size you would be okay with not drafting Weeden and keeping him as your starter?The difference is Bradford has the ideal arm and size for the nfl..
Also, if Bradford has the ideal arm and size why hasn't he been significantly more productive then McCoy thus far in their careers?
So, if McCoy had what you perceive to be ideal arm and nfl size you would be okay with not drafting Weeden and keeping him as your starter?
Also, if Bradford has the ideal arm and size why hasn't he been significantly more productive then McCoy thus far in their careers?
Because he ain't really that much better?
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So, if McCoy had what you perceive to be ideal arm and nfl size you would be okay with not drafting Weeden and keeping him as your starter?
Also, if Bradford has the ideal arm and size why hasn't he been significantly more productive then McCoy thus far in their careers?
Because he ain't really that much better?
Because he ain't really that much better?
Agreed. Bradford is rather underwhelming IMO
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wait a minute. so you're saying bradford is a bust? their whole team has lacked (except at RB) talent ala the browns. their OL is terrible.
boy how soon you guys forget. wasn't he the one everyone was clamoring for sorta like luck and RGIII this year? i guess no one can evaluate talent in the NFL.
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Maybe Brandon Weeden will be much superior to Colt...he will need to be, because if they have another do nothing offense, then who will get the blame? A rookie QB/RB or the coach/GM/Pres.
Brandon Weeden has a lot going for him that Colt did not:o Trent Richardson 'nuff said
o Brad Childress as OC instead of Pat Shurmur
o Mitchell Schwartz
o Josh Gordon
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Lol....3 of those poibts are rookies....the other has only ever called plays one year of his career. Shurmur is more senior in that regard.
lol, i'm scratching my head as to what your point is....because the players I mentioned are rookies they can't help the Browns offense?Lol....3 of those poibts are rookies....the other has only ever called plays one year of his career. Shurmur is more senior in that regard.
Your second point is flat out incorrect.
Brad Childress has not only called plays for more then 1 season he has more experience in coaching (even as a HC) then Pat Shurmur.
Get your facts straight.
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