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  • Ron Jaworski is doing his Top 30 NFL QBs. I believe the Final List will look like this:

    1. Rodgers

    2. Brees

    3. Brady

    4. P. Manning

    5. E. Manning

    6. Roethlisberger

    7. Rivers

    8. Cutler

    9. Flacco

    10. Romo

    11. Ryan

    12. Vick

    13. Schaub

    14. Stafford

    15. Newton

    16. Alex Smith

    17. Freema

    18. Hasselback

    19. Dalton

    20. Bradford

    21. Carson Palmer

    22. Cassell

    23. Sanchez

    24. Fitzpatrick

    25. Kolb

    26. Matt Moore

    27. Flynn

    28. Ponder

    29. Gabbert

    30. Tebow

    The question is: who are overrated/underrated in your opinion?

    Note: The Colts/Browns/Redskins did not have a QB ranked because it is believed that all three teams will have a rookie at starting QB. The Jets got 2 QBs probably because of A. the fact that Tebow was a starter last year and B. the fact that they are Tebow suckasses and just want to play up his hype.

    (Ghoolie: note, with these past 2 posts I am trying to get some football discussion going)

    @the-gipper said:

    Ron Jaworski is doing his Top 30 NFL QBs. I believe the Final List will look like this:

    1. Rodgers

    2. Brees

    3. Brady

    4. P. Manning

    5. E. Manning

    6. Roethlisberger

    7. Rivers

    8. Cutler

    9. Flacco

    10. Romo

    11. Ryan

    12. Vick

    13. Schaub

    14. Stafford

    15. Newton

    16. Alex Smith

    17. Freema

    18. Hasselback

    19. Dalton

    20. Bradford

    21. Carson Palmer

    22. Cassell

    23. Sanchez

    24. Fitzpatrick

    25. Kolb

    26. Matt Moore

    27. Flynn

    28. Ponder

    29. Gabbert

    30. Tebow

    The question is: who are overrated/underrated in your opinion?

    Note: The Colts/Browns/Redskins did not have a QB ranked because it is believed that all three teams will have a rookie at starting QB. The Jets got 2 QBs probably because of A. the fact that Tebow was a starter last year and B. the fact that they are Tebow suckasses and just want to play up his hype.

    (Ghoolie: note, with these past 2 posts I am trying to get some football discussion going)

    Hello Kasko

    How are you?

    Reds are doing well this season. What say you?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Bring in Donovan McNabb to be a backup, then bring in a young 3rd string QB...

    What did the worms at Browns Stadium ever do to you?

    @kerrigan91 said:

    What did the worms at Browns Stadium ever do to you?

    The issue with McNabb and the Redskins was the fact that he had a bad attitude in that he was unwilling to accept the fact that he was no longer a premiere starting QB in this league.

    I think now he has clearly gotten that message and I think he MUST now know that the only way he can even have a job in this league is if he plays the mentor/backup role. If he accepts that proposition....and with his knowledge of the Shurmur offense (whom, after all, he played under in Philly for years), he might make a decent mentor/backup QB.

  • I think Romo and Flacco are vastly overrated...I happen to think they both suck!

  • @kerrigan91 said:

    What did the worms at Browns Stadium ever do to you?

    The issue with McNabb and the Redskins was the fact that he had a bad attitude in that he was unwilling to accept the fact that he was no longer a premiere starting QB in this league.

    I think now he has clearly gotten that message and I think he MUST now know that the only way he can even have a job in this league is if he plays the mentor/backup role. If he accepts that proposition....and with his knowledge of the Shurmur offense (whom, after all, he played under in Philly for years), he might make a decent mentor/backup QB.

    @the-gipper said:

    The issue with McNabb and the Redskins was the fact that he had a bad attitude in that he was unwilling to accept the fact that he was no longer a premiere starting QB in this league.

    I think now he has clearly gotten that message and I think he MUST now know that the only way he can even have a job in this league is if he plays the mentor/backup role. If he accepts that proposition....and with his knowledge of the Shurmur offense (whom, after all, he played under in Philly for years), he might make a decent mentor/backup QB.

    I gotta disagree with you Gip (and not just because of what happened in Washington).

    McNabb is a quarterback who has WAY too high of an opinion of himself. He didn't want to wear a wristband during the game - thought he was too good for that (nevermind that Manning and Brady both wear them). He considers himself too good to practice any new schemes/ideas/anything and doesn't want to put in the work. His time in Minnesota under a scheme that was supposed to "fit his talents" was more of a bust than his time in Washington. He had the opportunity to be a mentor/backup QB to Ponder, and by all accounts wanted no part of that.

    Even if he does know that the only chance at a job is as a backup, he's too prideful to lower himself to that role. He essentially said as much earlier in the offseason - that he's "looking at some teams" to sign with them, because "some team is going to have an injury or something, and the phone will be ringing."

  • I think Romo and Flacco are vastly overrated...I happen to think they both suck!

    @nickers said:

    I think Romo and Flacco are vastly overrated...I happen to think they both suck!

    Romo does choke in big games....but seems to have a lot of big games in regular season.

    In fairness to Flacco, if Lee Evans doesn't drop that TD pass, Flacco has his team in the SB last year.

  • Evans: Catch or no catch?

  • Evans: Catch or no catch?

    @the-gipper said:

    Evans: Catch or no catch?

    That's not a catch. The issue here is the "process of the catch" question. It's like if the ball gets jarred out after the receiver falls to the ground it's incomplete. Ball got knocked out before he had a chance to complete the catch.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Evans: Catch or no catch?

    That's not a catch. The issue here is the "process of the catch" question. It's like if the ball gets jarred out after the receiver falls to the ground it's incomplete. Ball got knocked out before he had a chance to complete the catch.

    @kerrigan91 said:

    That's not a catch. The issue here is the "process of the catch" question. It's like if the ball gets jarred out after the receiver falls to the ground it's incomplete. Ball got knocked out before he had a chance to complete the catch.

    Under the new rules, yes, I think you are right. Under older rules, if a WR had control of the ball and had two feet on the ground, it was a catch. But they have changed the rule.

  • @kerrigan91 said:

    That's not a catch. The issue here is the "process of the catch" question. It's like if the ball gets jarred out after the receiver falls to the ground it's incomplete. Ball got knocked out before he had a chance to complete the catch.

    Under the new rules, yes, I think you are right. Under older rules, if a WR had control of the ball and had two feet on the ground, it was a catch. But they have changed the rule.

    @the-gipper said:

    Under the new rules, yes, I think you are right. Under older rules, if a WR had control of the ball and had two feet on the ground, it was a catch. But they have changed the rule.

    Yes, it would have been ruled a catch, but I still think that under the old rules that should not have been a catch. To me at least, there needs to be some semblance of control after the two feet touch. The ball was knocked out immediately, meaning he lost control of it, which I don't consider a catch. Of course, I'm not making the rules, so my opinion really doesn't matter 😛

  • @nickers said:

    I think Romo and Flacco are vastly overrated...I happen to think they both suck!

    Romo does choke in big games....but seems to have a lot of big games in regular season.

    In fairness to Flacco, if Lee Evans doesn't drop that TD pass, Flacco has his team in the SB last year.

    @the-gipper said:

    Romo does choke in big games....but seems to have a lot of big games in regular season.

    In fairness to Flacco, if Lee Evans doesn't drop that TD pass, Flacco has his team in the SB last year.

    Romo blows and is a loser